Last night...
So a 'mixed' reaction to last night's theme from the blog. I have to say that your criticisms were pretty similar to my own. It was a theme that never really took off. We tried to do too many things in the one show and none of them seem to particularly engage with folk listening at the time. It's clear that the themes that work best are the simple concepts that run over two hours.
Paolo Pablo is right when he says that we've had a run of very good themes lately but for one reason or another this week's themes haven't gelled. However the good thing about a nightly show is that you can come into work and start all over again the next day. I used to find it frustrating doing a weekly show like Brand new Country. If you had a disappointing programme then you had to wait a whole week to have another go. I need to make sure that next week's themes are unbeatable.
It's onwards with tonight's theme which gives us all the chance to play fantasy record companies. I think it could be a fun theme although there have been one or two grumbles on the blog about it.
Criticism is fine and we all like a good grump now and then. However, fantasizing about hiring an assassin to murder a well known Manchester born singer is taking grumpiness to a whole new level. I mean, there are certain flute based bands that I find a bit tiresome but I am not going to hire the jackal to have them taken out!
Forget about whose records you wouldn't release, what are the ones that you would? I'm looking forward to reading what our regular bloggers can contribute for tonight. As we found out last night, it's not the same when you don't....
Comment number 1.
At 17th Feb 2010, Jim Frae Erskine wrote:Ach well - the best laid schemes and all that! Personally I think the criticism was a tad over the top... We do tend to fail to keep light entertainment in it's proper perspective sometimes. There are always other shows and other themes featuring Tull, Bragg, Rundgren and Gilmour! :-)
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Comment number 2.
At 17th Feb 2010, Wee Heavy wrote:#1. Where ?.
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Comment number 3.
At 17th Feb 2010, henri hannah wrote:I love the show and the GIO team and wouldn't have it any other way.I'm sure the other bloggers feel the same way.
My comments last night were an observation - that the more specific the theme, the better the show.I thought last night a little disappointing, because the over arching theme of alternative awards was actually a great one and could have been a great laugh - anything, I think the approach is a little conservative, though I have always accepted it's light entertainment.
As it happens, I think not announcing the categories if until the night of the show was a mistake - people then ask for the first thing they think of, hence the rather obvious results.It might yet be a great theme in a more structured way.
But last night was the exception to the rule - forget it, I'm sure everyone already has - it's only one very small blip in an otherwise great run on the most original format I've ever heard.
I meant it when I said there should be an award for
most original concept for a radio request show ...
Get It On - Radio Scotland
Keep up the good work!
regardez youse
Henri
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Comment number 4.
At 17th Feb 2010, paolopablo wrote:I thought the idea had potential last night for some creative and amusing suggestions but it never really happened which i assume is why the production team came up with categories themselves. (I take it that wasn't the idea).
Still as Scarlet O'Hara might have said, After all tomorrow is another show.
How about vocal harmonies as a theme.
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Comment number 5.
At 17th Feb 2010, Wee Heavy wrote:By the way who is responsible for the screeching in the background tonight ?,damn near bust my woofers.
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Comment number 6.
At 17th Feb 2010, Jim Frae Erskine wrote:#3
HH that's my point... When we focus too much on life's minutiae, the whole thing passes us by! The fact that a particular show is to some degree 'not as good' as another is hardly worth the time taken to pen massive blog posts...
#2
A wee joke there, right enough.
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Comment number 7.
At 17th Feb 2010, Adam_from_Rio wrote:Sheesh.
I go away for a few days Carnavlling and the walls come down.
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Comment number 8.
At 17th Feb 2010, DC wrote:Just had a message from that well known assassin........
Play Gilmour or the Mancunian gets it....
DC
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Comment number 9.
At 17th Feb 2010, Scotch Get wrote:Antonyms always seem to work well as themes.
#8
We should persuade Norrie to give up Morrissey requests for Lent.
He'll get his reward in Heaven and we'll get 40 days and 40 nights of bliss.
>8-D
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Comment number 10.
At 17th Feb 2010, silver fox wrote:Just to add my own happence 'orth about the show last night. I'm not sure what makes a great show for anyone else, it's all very subjective, but there can be no such thing as a "disappointing show" - we're suggesting the songs (unless the playlist is cleverly worked out in advance in anticipation of likely suggestions and cynically manipulated to look interactive!) it is dynamic - there's nothing to stop anyone suggesting something else if they don't like the previous records. the point is, someone out there would have enjoyed it - they suggested it. that doesn't guarantee a great show for all. but that's the beauty of the programme - it's not just one person's choice, even if the presenters exercise their discretion as to what is played, be it down to taste or the availability of the music requested, or even just (!) their knowledge of what their listeners want to hear with their differeing tastes. I think the adverse reaction demonstrates that last night's lack of whatever people felt it lacked was the exception rather than the rule. I agree that a more focussed theme might spark off more diverse suggestions, but perhaps it's also fair to say that we should be wary of getting too snobby about what is deemed ok and what isn't. there isn't a concensus in musical tastes - vive la difference. I think we can all get over the odd dud song or show - it's the ones that take you by surprise or rekindle a wee memory that make it something special and worth listening in for. different for everybody, but somehow it mostly works. without being too mainstream or vanilla. can't ask for more than that - if you can, then just make sure you're requesting what YOU want to hear. and hope it doesn't make for painful listening for someone else. or summat. peace up, folks - let's get over it.
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Comment number 11.
At 17th Feb 2010, gaiebrown wrote:#10 absolutely agree. There is no way that each and every song on every show could appeal to everyone. Tonight I had a song played that I'd only heard twice before - I chose the band as being new and a bit different and because at least one other person (The Herald reviewer)thought they were brilliant. When the song was introduced I went into panic mode - suppose it's not as good as I thought last night, suppose everyone else thinks it's terrible. How ridiculous a reaction was that? Some people will have liked it, some won't. That's life. The concept of the show is brilliant and it's completely revitalised my listening habits: I love finding songs for the themes, I love trying out other people's suggestions and I love the part of the evening when tea's about ready and the radio goes on, or when I stick the headphones on and go for a walk.
I also think that maybe it's good to remember to say thanks for the amount of pleasure the programme gives instead of picking on the bits we don't like, even if it is done in jest.
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Comment number 12.
At 17th Feb 2010, Glen Miller wrote:Silver Fox arrives too late. No longer can we of limited attention span absorb his golden prose between 'Humour In Uniform' and 'I am John's Prostate' in the Reader's Digest.
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Comment number 13.
At 17th Feb 2010, DC wrote:#10 well said Jim
;-)
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Comment number 14.
At 17th Feb 2010, Jim Frae Erskine wrote:#10
You first!
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Comment number 15.
At 17th Feb 2010, erlando-r wrote:I'm not sure there was so very much wrong with the show last night anyway. Certainly i didn't feel motivated to make suggestions and many bloggers the same but that's me and us. Enough people were motivated to send in their's and there was plenty good stuff there.
All us listeners, bloggers, f-ebookers & texters like different stuff but one thing unites us all, we all love the show! When i'm not on shift i wait till 6 to start making the tea especially to listen in so thanks BB and crew, and thanks radio scotland for putting it out 5 nights a week now :)
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Comment number 16.
At 17th Feb 2010, Glen Miller wrote:Let's not be downhearted.
What about a show of new bands to blow away the cobwebs.
I'd suggest the White Rabbits and Lord Rochester.
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Comment number 17.
At 18th Feb 2010, Jim Frae Erskine wrote:#13
Now, now, Henri - cut it out! ;-)
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Comment number 18.
At 18th Feb 2010, CaptRamius wrote:Bryan & Co
Don't get too despondent about the criticism: the reason you get it is that the listeners are passionate about the show and constantly want it to be *better* - to mirror the unattainable, idealised image of a show that we all carry in our heads.
Mine - as I'm sure you've realised - is:
* 10 tracks of old favourites
* 6 tracks I've not heard in ages/forgotten about
* 3 tracks that are new to me
* 1-2 tracks that are a real risk - could go down like a lead balloon, could be wonderful. The Slits being the perfect example, or the excellent Unwinding Hours track from this evening.
and that as a whole, it should be a pretty eclectic mix and just a *wee* bit more left-field than the majority of the audience.
But while it's a rare show that ticks all of those boxes, there's always enough to keep me coming back.
Chin up - risks are good. Try again, fail again, fail *better* :-)
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Comment number 19.
At 18th Feb 2010, norriemaclean wrote:#18 Capn you forgot that you would be *Guest Producer*.....
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Comment number 20.
At 18th Feb 2010, DC wrote:To be honest, I didn't think there was much "criticism" in that it wasn't the theme idea that folk didn't like (perhaps if the categories had been posted earlier we could have put more thought into it!).
My take on things is that there was such a diverse set of musical tastes put forward that there was always going to be someone who didn't like what they heard. The solution for such listeners is easy: go & make a cup of tea when the track you don't care for is on.
In my case, I drank lots of tea on Tuesday but still enjoyed the show at the end of the two hours.
Keep up the good work guys and don't take it personally if some Mancunian sleep-inducing monotone annoys those of us with musical taste
(Joke by the way)
:-)
DC
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Comment number 21.
At 18th Feb 2010, CynthiaPlastercaster wrote:THURSDAY
I think this is what GreggaryPeccary WOULD POST..............
I WAS A TEEN-AGE MALT SHOP from THE OLD MASTERS BOX 1 MYSTERY DISC by FRANK ZAPPA
TEENAGE WIND from YOU ARE WHAT YOU IS by FRANK ZAPPA
TEENAGE PROSTITUTE from SHIP ARRIVING TOO LATE TO SAVE A DROWNING WITCH by FRANK ZAPPA
I’M EIGHTEEN from LOVE IT TO DEATH by ALICE COOPER
As the TEENAGE FANCLUB are along with KEVIN AYERS on his Album, THE UNFAIRGROUND, I would ask you to play BABY COME HOME
I'M NOT A JUVENILE DELINQUENT by THE LATE FRANK LYNON AND THE TEENAGERS
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Comment number 22.
At 18th Feb 2010, madmacfraeclydebank wrote:#21
Wrong theme... You know GreggaryPeccary has apparently deleted you fae his mutual appreciation page.
Anyhow,
The Brits... crock of do dody doby do!
Recording Executive... no thanks, got a day
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Comment number 23.
At 18th Feb 2010, silver fox wrote:#12 have to hand it to you, that was deserved, topical and funny. hat trick. but you got ahead of yourself a bit. how could you possibly mistake that for the musings of a man? or are you perhaps being a little bit sexist? just working that one for a wee while longer.......
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Comment number 24.
At 18th Feb 2010, Kene Gelly wrote:Music is what feelings sound like.
~Author Unknown
GIO feels good to me ...
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Comment number 25.
At 18th Feb 2010, DC wrote:#23 Silverfox is Babs!!!!
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Comment number 26.
At 18th Feb 2010, Adam_from_Rio wrote:Just listened to Tuesday`s show and dont know what all the fuss is about. It was an ill thought out theme, ok, but the tunes were on a par with any other show.
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Comment number 27.
At 18th Feb 2010, Glen Miller wrote:A vixen would know how to spell consensus
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Comment number 28.
At 18th Feb 2010, silver fox wrote:#27 some of us aren't natives, you (should) know. keep digging.
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Comment number 29.
At 18th Feb 2010, DC wrote:Danielle!!!!!
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Comment number 30.
At 19th Feb 2010, norriemaclean wrote:#28 Nancy Cantor?
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Comment number 31.
At 19th Feb 2010, Scotch Get wrote:Nancy, you require snookers...
>8-D
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Comment number 32.
At 19th Feb 2010, Jim Frae Erskine wrote:Sneakers, surely... And no, I am not calling you Surely. Surely?
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Comment number 33.
At 20th Feb 2010, Scotch Get wrote:On the Internet, nobody knows if you're a dog fox.
with apologies to Peter Steiner
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Comment number 34.
At 26th Feb 2010, Scotch Get wrote:#32
I'm thinking David Taylor. You?
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