Let's start at the very beginning...
When is an intro not an intro? Ask the Get It On audience as there were plenty opinions aired last night. According to the dictionary definition an intro establishes the melody and rhythm of a song and is related to the main body of the piece.
"Introductions may be an ostinato that is used in the following music, an important chord or progression that establishes the tonality and groove for the following music, important but disguised or out of context motivic or thematic material.As such the introduction may be the first statement of primary or other important material, may be related to but different from the primary or other important material, or may bear little relation to any other material" says Wikipedia.
That's cleared that up then. We were in murky waters last night with some of our choices - Fat Bottomed Girls is a good example. "It does have an intro", someone pointed out last night. "It just happens to have vocals on it!"
I suppose the " Oh, who's gonna take you home tonight..." section would qualify as the intro, with the song not actually starting until Freddie starts singing about being a skinny laddie.
Tonight's theme of 'emotions' should be less controversial, but just in case:
An emotion is a mental and physiological state associated with a wide variety of feelings, thoughts, and behaviours. It is a prime determinant of the sense of subjective well-being and appears to play a central role in many human activities.
Comment number 1.
At 8th Oct 2008, Neil Westland wrote:I hear what everyone is saying about intros or no intro. I struggled to think of any song without an intro until I took the definition of the first thing heard is a vocal. Even if the no intro theme is not going to happen again then the Vocal First would be a goer surely.
The shows have been great this week, my daughter KirstyFromStonehaven were in the car on Monday on our way to buy cards and presents for her Mum's, my wife's Fiona's birthday today, when we heard her first mention. Brilliant moment, thanks. Happy Birthday Fiona.
Is it too late to suggest Happy Talk from either Captain Sensible or from the South Pacific LP that everyone's Mum and Dad seemed to possess when I was a kid.
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Comment number 2.
At 8th Oct 2008, madmacfaeclydebank wrote:I agree re vocals and was glad the G.I.O. Team saw fit to post some kind of disclaimer due to what I suspect was increasing levels of ambiguity prior to last night...
It was always going to be one of those difficult themes I suspect and fair play to Mandi for attempting to rein in the Marathon Man on occasion.
Lastly, I was lucky enough to be spared South Pacific...
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Comment number 3.
At 9th Oct 2008, woodsidewullie wrote:I could follow that biker's bum here there and everywhere, if she'd take a chance on me; I'd make sure she was never on a road to nowhere. Man, I could have such fun recycling her tyres till I was tired oot.
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At 9th Oct 2008, woodsidewullie wrote:''An emotion is a mental and physiological state associated with a wide variety of feelings, thoughts, and behaviours. It is a prime determinant of the sense of subjective well-being and appears to play a central role in many human activities.''
Man, you're losing me here.
Is it OK to like biker's bums?
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Comment number 5.
At 9th Oct 2008, norriemaclean wrote:Tried a few times to post this....
I had started to rattle on about how good Mr Joe Browns choices were all week but anyway I think I have a few great suggestion for themeless Thursday
pp Arnold - the first cut is the deepest, she was played a couple of weeks ago with her great version of Angel of the Morning and this is every bit as good.
Put Up The Flag - Steven Lindsay from his great album Kite
Justin Currie - Not So Sentimental Now from his brilliant brilliant album What is Love For
Tift Merritt - Something To Me from another great recent album Another Country
Killers - Human I have only heard this a couple of times but its really good
Gene Clark - Life's Greatest Fool from his brilliant post Byrds album, No Other
Dream baby Dream - Springsteen and Drive In Saturday - Morrissey, both covers and both I think only available on vinyl but I am sure the beeb must have copies and either would be sensational to hear on the radio
My final suggestion is a track which Bryan almost played a few weeks ago but I think ran out of time
Van Morrison - Till I Gain Control Again, the Rodney Crowell song which Van really does justice to, I think it is a great version of a great song.
I sincerely hope everyone has a great weekend.
Cheers
Norrie MacLean, Renfrew
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Comment number 6.
At 9th Oct 2008, Scotch Get wrote:woodsidewullie, Re: Is it OK to like biker's bums?
My baby-sister's boyfriend is a Hells Angel. Would you like me to ask him on your behalf?
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Comment number 7.
At 9th Oct 2008, Jim Frae Erskine wrote:Pretty hard to come up with suggestions when there is no theme... However, I'll just throw out some of my fun favourites!
The Wee Cooper Of Fife - Burl Ives (yes - amazingly, it's true!!!)
Da Da Da - Trio
Tutti Frutti - Trio (it's a fantastic version!)
Mana Mana - The Muppets
My Science Fiction Twin - Elvis Costello
Oh, Lady Be Good (Scat Version) - Ella Fitzgerald
The Robots - Kraftwerk
The Riddle - Nick Kershaw
Owl And The Pussycat - Donovan
Obla Di, Obla Da - The Beatles
Blue Moon - The Marcels
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Comment number 8.
At 9th Oct 2008, HarryFaeGatehoose wrote:Is it just me: did the original cover of Fat Bummed Lassies previously feature the same costume, or is this a bit of ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ censorship? If so, can you please arrange for the Beeb to apply the same censorship to the song as well! And the rest of the Queen ouevre if at all possible.
Disgusted of Tongland Wells
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Comment number 9.
At 9th Oct 2008, Glen Miller wrote:The cheek!
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At 9th Oct 2008, Jim Frae Erskine wrote:That cracked me up.
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At 9th Oct 2008, norriemaclean wrote:Cheek indeed! Woolies banned the original sleeve so it was changed. The lp came with a naughty poster tsk tsk. It was my brothers I swear........
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At 9th Oct 2008, madmacfaeclydebank wrote:Kene
Great to hear you are still in the land of the living, eclectic eh! sure that was the music and not the Doctors Beat & Clap.
Best wishes for a very speedy recovery.
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Comment number 13.
At 9th Oct 2008, janfromrutherglen wrote:They could play any Queen track any night every night and it would be brill.
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Comment number 14.
At 9th Oct 2008, Scotch Get wrote:After 'Sheer Heart-Attack' it was all downhill.
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At 9th Oct 2008, madmacfaeclydebank wrote:HFG,
Here's to your temerity, can't, couldn't & never will appreciate them.
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Comment number 16.
At 9th Oct 2008, madmacfaeclydebank wrote:Hey SG,
Called on "A passion play" for you last night...
"You were right..."
You might care to listen to Helloween's cover of Locomotive Breath
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Comment number 17.
At 9th Oct 2008, Jim Frae Erskine wrote:Hey MadMac - you managed to get an ampersand int your blog! What manner of Merlinesque wizardry has allowed you to manage this impressive feat?
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At 9th Oct 2008, norriemaclean wrote:LOL! Jim, it would now appear to be the letter between j and l that cannot be posted. I am not joking! Eh in capitals anyway I'll check so excuse next crazy blog....
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Comment number 19.
At 9th Oct 2008, norriemaclean wrote:Nope cannot do that letter in standalone. Now its just Joe Brown. Boo
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At 9th Oct 2008, madmacfaeclydebank wrote:Jim,
Dunno... just type like a demon in case the link drops before I can post to the blog...
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Comment number 21.
At 9th Oct 2008, madmacfaeclydebank wrote:Hold down the Up arrow with the ampersand key...
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Comment number 22.
At 9th Oct 2008, Scotch Get wrote:madmac,
Thanks for the recommendation, and for the request!
I'm not very good with modern technology. Emails and writing comments on this blog is pretty much my limit, but I'll try to check it out.
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Comment number 23.
At 9th Oct 2008, Scotch Get wrote:Norrie,
This wee glitch must be very recent. My requests for Wednesday and Thursday both contained the letter between J and L
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Comment number 24.
At 9th Oct 2008, Scotch Get wrote:Maybe it's down to madmac's ampersand. Not that I'm suggesting sabotage.
Heaven forbid.
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Comment number 25.
At 9th Oct 2008, Jim Frae Erskine wrote:Do we have a Quisling in our midst? Maybe Mandi by another name?????? ;-)
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Comment number 26.
At 9th Oct 2008, Jim Frae Erskine wrote:Just joking - in case anyone takes offence! LOL
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Comment number 27.
At 9th Oct 2008, Glen Miller wrote:Adam in Rio is an anagram of I Or A Mandi
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Comment number 28.
At 10th Oct 2008, Jim Frae Erskine wrote:Are you thusly implicating yourself?
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Comment number 29.
At 10th Oct 2008, Adam_from_Rio wrote:Spooky!
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Comment number 30.
At 10th Oct 2008, woodsidewullie wrote:scotc-git,
I don't believe for one moment that your sister’s boyfriend is a Hell’s Angel. I liked the above photae. What is your problem with that?
Oh! We gotta rock it round the world
Oh! We gotta save it from gumphrells
Oh! We gotta share it with ourselves
That Biker Blonde
She makes my rocker rock right on.
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Comment number 31.
At 10th Oct 2008, ProducerMandi wrote:Glenn, reading your post and laughed out loud while sipping a cup of coffee and have just spluttered all over my computer screen! So Adam and I have the same letters in common, that's definitely something to build on!
Producer Mandi
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Comment number 32.
At 10th Oct 2008, norriemaclean wrote:Mandi - this has to be the strangest thread yet! Woodsides posts certainly made me chuckle!
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Comment number 33.
At 10th Oct 2008, ProducerMandi wrote:I agree, Norrie. Loving this thread!
And I'm about to make it even stranger. The Blog Bods have found the offending letter between j and l languishing on a profanity filter for some crazy reason.
So, they'll be releasing it to roam freely thoughout the blog...knowing that you are all a responsible and measured lot, not prone to bursts of profanity!
Producer Mandi
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Comment number 34.
At 10th Oct 2008, norriemaclean wrote:a profanity filter! whow, I spent quite a bit of time trying to get that post on as well!
Now then....responsible, measured.....
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Comment number 35.
At 10th Oct 2008, Scotch Get wrote:woodsidewullie,
He is, and I don't have a problem with your predilection.
Your question was open to interpretation, so I had a wee chuckle at your expense.
If I have caused offence I apologise. There was no intention to do so.
S-g
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Comment number 36.
At 10th Oct 2008, Scotch Get wrote:madmac,
I can't find that Helloween cover of Tull. Do you know the album's title?
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Comment number 37.
At 10th Oct 2008, JuliefromEdinburgh wrote:Getting a suggestion for Next Monday in before I forget it - it's an age thing :-)
Gilbert Becaud - "A Little Love and Understanding". My late father loved this record and it reminds me of Sunday lunchtimes, after Church and before Granny-visiting...he would play this over and over again and would always chuckle at the bits where Gilbert chuckles...which makes me chuckle to think of it. The words are pretty apt for the first part of Monday's show. Did you know?...Gilbert Becaud wrote the original French versions of "Let it be Me" and "What Now My Love" and he co-wrote "Love on the Rocks".
Another good reason to play this song is to give Bryan the chance to indulge his well loved hobby of pronounciation of foreign names.
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At 10th Oct 2008, HarryFaeGatehoose wrote:Hey Mad Mac
Maybe that's a future thread: "Hellishly Over-Rated Bands / Singers". My list starts:
Queen
Coldplay
The Stone Roses
Annie Lennox
The Eurythmics
Any Scottish band of the 80s post-Associates
Stevie Wonder
I'm willing to argue the toss (except in respect of Queen and Ms Lennox)
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Comment number 39.
At 10th Oct 2008, norriemaclean wrote:Hee hee Harry.....how long have you got! That could be a long long list!!
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Comment number 40.
At 10th Oct 2008, JuliefromEdinburgh wrote:and will anyone be brave enough to put the Smiffs on their list?
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At 10th Oct 2008, norriemaclean wrote:I think you just have Julie!!
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At 10th Oct 2008, JuliefromEdinburgh wrote:I was merely wondering...not participating.
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Comment number 43.
At 10th Oct 2008, GardenPartyPaul wrote:am I allowed back in yet. Been lonely out here just me, a plectrum & a 1970s Washburn electro acoustic!
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Comment number 44.
At 10th Oct 2008, norriemaclean wrote:Where have you been Paul - you were not bansihed were you?
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Comment number 45.
At 10th Oct 2008, Mike Connon wrote:On overrated bands you will get no argument from me on queen, I did hear them once referred to as a glitter band and that I think sums them up. I don't hate them, and there are one or two of their tracks that I quite like (I personally think 39 was the best things they ever did), but that's it. As for the rest of the list again can't really argue. To be hoinest most bands / singers, like most footballers, are overrated. The only bands / singers I think I have managed to revisit time and time again are Beatles, Stones (before they got crap), Dylan, van Morrison, Springsteen, Marvin Gaye and the like. There are lots of records by other artists that I like and indeed love, but can they do it for more then a couple of tracks? Currently I am liking Frightened Rabbit and Glasvegas which I recently discovered, but will they make the second album etc.
NB Gutted that Bryan played Promised Land and I missed it. Note that it does start with music, but that's no intro, that's straight into the meat! And he also played Ted Hawkins and I missed that as well.
NB THis blogging is getting quite addictive.
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At 10th Oct 2008, Mike Connon wrote:Has Bryan ever done a first record bought theme? I'll own up to Everlasting Love by Love Affair, and yes I still like it, Steve Ellis had a great voice. In fact I am rather protetcive of that record and would beat that little s##t Cullum to death for his wrecking of it. Possibly could have first record actually bought, and what I really should have bought if I'd been really trendy and / or musically aware, might have to research that myself.
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Comment number 47.
At 10th Oct 2008, norriemaclean wrote:Take it Jamie is going on the over-rated list then HoppoLocust!
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Comment number 48.
At 10th Oct 2008, Mike Connon wrote:There's overrated and there's Cullum, Celine Dion, Gloria Estefan and the like who go past overrated and are just an affront to the concept of music. If Bush wants to sort out Al Quaeda he should have the aforementioned played throughout Afghanistan and Pakistan and bin laden and the rest would bayonet themselves to death in a matter of hours!
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At 10th Oct 2008, Adam_from_Rio wrote:Hops! Go wash your mouth out! Agree with a lot of what you say (and I would throw Inxs and the Proclaimers into the pot - I used to like them until I started listening to GIO), but you can leave Miss Estefan out of it! She's not only a great singer but a fine looking woman too. She could have my babies.
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Comment number 50.
At 10th Oct 2008, HarryFaeGatehoose wrote:Dire Straits
The Police....
There would be a lot of debate, but I think my radio would start bleeding half an hour in.
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At 10th Oct 2008, madmacfaeclydebank wrote:Hi SG,
The afore mentioned was on a Classic Rock freebie no.7 and according to the notes credited to Castle Music Ltd no album reference, sorry I cannot supply any more info.
Hey Harry,
Oh, yes... sounds like a theme all right.
I would not argue that with you over Coldplay or the any of others for that matter, AFR is spot on re Craig and Charlie Reid also.
There is an indispensable core of artistes that do get a regular airing... I cannot help but suspect this is solely to keep in with the moral majority... so much, for the G.I.O. ethos. I believe it to be more prevalent when Barbara is on the show... Sorry Barbara but Mandi does seem to grant a wider spectrum and no, I am not asking for the Barry Gary Orchestra & the Captain Scarlet Theme...
Maybe a wee blast of E.C. is called for in the near future...
Radio is a sound salvation
Radio is cleaning up the nation
They say you better listen to the voice of reason
But they don't give you any choice cause they think that its treason
So you had better do as you are told
You better listen to the radio
As for this week
Thursday TV Themes ? Musters Theme Tune by the Escalators
Let us wait and see shall we...
Incidentally, did you know there is a promised Christmas night for the good and the great, I wonder what the table plan is starting to look like?
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At 10th Oct 2008, norriemaclean wrote:Hey Madmac and SG its Metal Jukebox. I only know this as it also has a cover of Space Oddity.
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At 10th Oct 2008, madmacfaeclydebank wrote:Cheers Norrie, could not stand by & see SG suffer.
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At 10th Oct 2008, madmacfaeclydebank wrote:P.S. What a t-- I meant to say Barry Gray Orchestra previously...
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At 11th Oct 2008, Scotch Get wrote:Norrie and Madmac,
Thanks for your help. Had a wee listen. It was...............interesting.
P.S. Barry Gary is a big improvement, I think.
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Comment number 56.
At 11th Oct 2008, ECTheNorthSea wrote:Mad Mac
Sorry to disappoint - blasting days are over.
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Comment number 57.
At 11th Oct 2008, Mike Connon wrote:Adam+frpm_rio I would agree that Estefan is a fine looking woman and also the babies thing, and even that she has a good voice, but her records are dire. Let's be honest there are many fine voices out there but very few are used well. As for the procalimers, I will admist a soft spot for them, but they are overplayed. Anyway I see that they are re-recoding 'I Hava a Dream' this afternoon and I think that's like a proclaimers song, if you only hear it every so often, and at the right times it's a belter, hear it too often and it starts to grate.
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At 11th Oct 2008, madmacfaeclydebank wrote:Hi EC, not looking to put you on the spot!
The E C referred to was Elvis Costello and the sentiment of his and the Attractions Radio radio...
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