Lady GaGa ft. Beyoncé - 'Telephone'
Guest reviewer: Kay Smith
You can't blame a man for getting confused. I mean, one minute a woman (and her friend) is purring away at you in breathy, panting tones, demanding that you call her on your video phone so she can show you how naughty she is - and the next, they're telling you not to call at all.
With so much contradiction going on, it's a wonder any fellas keep persisting. But then again, the women concerned aren't exactly average. After the innuendo-riddled (but slightly rubbish) 'come and get me' sexiness of Beyonce's 'Video Phone' featuring Lady Gaga, the superstar pair are back with another telephone-themed collaboration, and this time it seems they're no longer in the mood.
(Video isn't ready yet. It's gonna be another eye-peeler, innit)
For starters, it's GaGa's show this time around, and she's decided she's had quite enough of her man calling, and that she'd much rather be on the dancefloor than talking to him. Plus she hasn't got a signal in the club anyway, which she's trying to tell him, but he just keeps on calling regardless.
At this point you can't help but wonder why no-one suggested to GaGa that she turn her phone off altogether, but if she was wearing those funny fangs at the time then maybe no-one was brave enough. Or maybe they did try but she just couldn't hear them over the music; whatever...
'Telephone' is a pure dancefloor track, yet it also provides a platform for GaGa to show us the sweeter side of her voice. Starting off simple, melodic and slow, the song kicks in after the first verse by shattering your expectations of a ballad. It's got stuttering (and lots of it), it's repetitive, and it's catchy. And if the words don't rhyme - like "play" and "hand", then Gaga just adds an 'eh' on the end, and everything works out fine.
Beyonce comes in somewhere in the middle, providing a semi-rapped vocal which is strong and provides the 'girl power' element. If you like her voice on 'Diva', you'll like this.
In short - and totally against the way modern technology is developing - 'Telephone' more than makes up for where 'Video Phone' fell short, and definitely feels more like the kind of song that you'd expect from such a superstar collaboration.
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(Kay Smith)
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Comment number 1.
At 7th Mar 2010, flatknees wrote:spot on... really great track.. shame i hav been telling my friends that this was gonna number 1 mid- Feb thou...
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At 7th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:I saw LADY GAGA out on a supershow , last week and it was truly spectacular and awesome . Absolutely brilliant .
Arguably the biggest global solo star of the past year , bar none.
I have bigged up this talented , astute , star , from day one back in 2008 , and she is totally living up to expectations.
Is there anyone left in the UK , who has NOT heard of LADY GAGA ?
It has been nothing short of total chart and tabloid domination !
Behind all the clothes and the illuminating mask of flambuoyance , is a supreme talent and a fantastic marketing brain.
The Fame Monster , has just elevated her even higher , and is a welcome progression after the all-out pop gloss of The Fame.
You want variation , then listen to Teeth , Speechless ,and Monster .
There is a darker underworld that blackens Miss Germanotta's subways , these days .Hey , she even samples Depeche Mode's Strangelove on the wonderful Dance in the Dark !
Anyway , onto the pop landscape that is Telephone , that will soon explode commercially when the very interesting video arrives .
The song boasts loads of catchy hooks , and sounds great on the dancefloor.
Go GaGa !
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At 7th Mar 2010, RandomEnigma wrote:Telephone is an amazing pop song. In my opinion, much better than Bad Romance or Poker Face. I also saw GaGa live at Oxegen last Summer. Behind all her gimmicks, she is a true talent.
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At 7th Mar 2010, jonesybcfc wrote:Right spirit as i'm now a fully fledged member of the pedantic society is it possible to be 'arguably the best bar none'???as in she is the best out there, better than all of the competition, but only arguably? Am I making sense? Should I shutup?
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At 7th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:You are of course making sense ! And you are very witty . lol
But yes, when it comes to highlighting any weaknesses I may have , arguably you should shut up . :)
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At 7th Mar 2010, jonesybcfc wrote:Haha, i don't think you are quite in a position to say that as the Commander in Chief of The Pedantic Society!!!
Btw, just posted a rant on Reggie on his post, I know you'll agree ;)
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At 7th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:Have just agreed ! lol
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At 7th Mar 2010, harrythedog10 wrote:I have just posted a defence of Reggie on his post, I know you won't agree. ;)
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At 7th Mar 2010, jonesybcfc wrote:We don't :)
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Comment number 10.
At 7th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:Yep , I have just gone back and dis-agreed with what you said Harry .
Still love YOU though . :)
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At 7th Mar 2010, jonesybcfc wrote:Oh yeah, that goes without saying... ;)
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At 8th Mar 2010, harrythedog10 wrote:As usual the Telephone video premiere has been pushed back, it will now premiere on Thursday, 11th March on E! News. The thing is; will it really premiere then or will it be pushed back again to a later date, one thing we can be sure of is that it will be awesome!
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At 8th Mar 2010, OddOne wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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At 8th Mar 2010, jonesybcfc wrote:Is that you Jay-Z?
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Comment number 15.
At 8th Mar 2010, BloggingLiam wrote:Another reason why it might not top the charts next week Harry!
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Comment number 16.
At 9th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:I expect that by this Sunday , Telephone will start to climb and be inside the top 20 .
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Comment number 17.
At 9th Mar 2010, OddOne wrote:Well, seeing as my last post was removed, I'll write a response with less capitals. (:
Right, well this song has been eveywhere hasn't it? It first appeared in the Top 40 back when 'Bad Romance' made it's chart debut at No. 14. Since then it fell out of the top 100 and then returned quickly, lingering about No. 80 odd, then it shot up and has been wandering around aimlessly in the No. 30-40 region for the past four weeks.
After all the live performances of it at The Monster Ball Tour and her AMAZINGGGG performance on Jonothan Ross a few days ago, plus a liberal helping of radio airplay, this song should by now doubt hit the top 3. But I expect that because Beyoncé's there too, it'll top the charts.
P.S. It just struck me, that'll be 4/6 of the UK singles released by the Lady of GaGa herself that has hit number 1, after the unarguably decent chart performance of 'Paparazzi' (No. 4) and the shocking scandal of 'LoveGame'. (No. 19) Stupid illegal downloads. :@
5 stars from me.
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At 9th Mar 2010, RandomEnigma wrote:LoveGame charted months before its release in the UK so no wonder it didn't make the Top 10.
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Comment number 19.
At 9th Mar 2010, BloggingLiam wrote:I don't think it will knock Me. Temper off the number 1 spot. I made this prediction a few days ago and Im sticking to it!
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Comment number 20.
At 10th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:Yeah , Telephone will be between numbers 10-20 , on Sunday ....
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Comment number 21.
At 12th Mar 2010, RandomEnigma wrote:Well the Telephone video appeared online early this morning and it of course delivered with all the hype.
Lady GaGa and Beyoncé are Thelma and Louise style killers.
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Comment number 22.
At 12th Mar 2010, harrythedog10 wrote:I actually feel a little bit disappointed by the Telephone video; the dialogue is poorly written and the whole thing doesn't seem to flow very well with the song getting cut off at random points for some strange acting part. Not to say there aren't some good bits in it, all the moment containing the song are great and the whole thing does have the right amount of spectacle required but put it next to say Thriller or even Bad Romance and it becomes only a good video not a great one.
4/5 would be my score for it.
Also what's up with that 'Let's Bake A Cake Thing' that seriously confused me!
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At 12th Mar 2010, RandomEnigma wrote:I know the 'Let's Bake A Cake' thing was crazy and all the loud sound effects when they were eating and stuff was weird. I also think Beyoncé trying to act all quirky and edgy was completely out of character, Beyoncé has always been like a saint in the music room...a saint that gets away with almost showing her ladybits in every music video.
What was with the random prison fight? Had nothing to do with GaGa at all! And the amount of product placement (notice the Diet Coke in GaGa's hair during the fight scene and the Virgin mobile throughout).
It was still a great video but not as great as Bad Romance which managed to be engaging without the song being interrupted constantly to show some random clip.
And Beyoncé isn't fooling anyone into thinking she's a lesbian.
P.S. I did love the tongue in cheek joke where GaGa's stripped in the prison cell and one of the prisoners says "I told you she doesn't have a (manhood)" and another prisoner goes "That's a shame!" Should put an end to those hermaphrodite rumours lol.
P.P.S. If GaGa gets to use shameless plugs in her video, I get to use them here. I've reviewed this single over on the Jedward page. Give me feedback!
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At 12th Mar 2010, harrythedog10 wrote:I'm guessing that when they show it on TV they'll cut out the annoying parts and just keep the parts with the song in it (which are amazing). Then again I'm not a fan of videos with stories in them, it's a music video lets keep it about the music!
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At 12th Mar 2010, RandomEnigma wrote:Oh and Telephone is the lighest poppish song on The Fame Monster. All the other songs on the album have darker undertones. This is just about not being able to hear someone in a nightclub.
Why the big unrelated the video? (I love the video but it does have it's problems).
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Comment number 26.
At 13th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:Telephone is a fantastic in yer face video , positively dripping with the juice of in-jokes and controversy .
It will be talked about , and some of the imagery just begs to be discussed from a school playground in Michigan , all the way to Harry's bedroom in Nottingham .
However , the song seems to be a victim of such a captivating video , as it is not truly heard in a cohesive manner due to all the "acting" and the double entendres going on .
Still there is always the plethora of GaGa's different colourful outfits we can discuss .
My FAVOURITE ? Must be the hat with all the smoking cigarettes , but then I also like the police crime scene dress , that barely covers GaGa's upper torso and her central goodie .
In 24 hours , the video has had 3 million hits on You Tube , and due to the release of the vid , I can see Telephone knocking loudly on the door of the top ten singles chart tomorrow night .
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Comment number 27.
At 13th Mar 2010, RandomEnigma wrote:I love when Lady GaGa and Beyoncé are dancing in the American flag outfits. Very sexy!
Does anyone want to hear my abstract opinion on the video? Right, I think GaGa is using the concept that 'Fame Kills' once again, continuing the theme from Paparazzi. She gets thrown in to the prison which represents Fame. Fame is a dark and sinful place and the images of fighting and sex represent that but GaGa's joy of being in prison is how modern culture drowns themselves in the World of Fame. The prison guards throwing GaGa in jail are also the public, who criticise and judge celebrities. They also strip her which represents record companies stripping the substance out of an artists and making them bland and mindlessly sexy.
When GaGa and Beyoncé poison the restaurant full of people, they are representing the killer side of fame. The people indulge in the poisonous fame, gorging on all the food (gorging on fame which eventually kills them). Again this backs up the Fame Kills theme. Beyoncé and Lady GaGa dance in the American flag outfits to show America's obsession with fame as well as technology (see the constant plugs for Virgin mobile and the dating website). The constant pop culture references and technological references further show our obsession with pop culture.
Of course, GaGa is as much a business woman as she is a creative artists and she knows that sex, violence and general all round quirkiness will sell as well as the constant product placements throughout.
P.S. GaGa and Beyoncé are also painted as killers in the video because of their powerful dominant position as two of the biggest popstars in the World right now.
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Comment number 28.
At 13th Mar 2010, BloggingLiam wrote:OK I'm a little late with opinions etc on this little pop nugget, but hey, it's better late than never!
Song wise... Hello the looming figure of Gwen. It's very Stefani isn't it? Its good, catchy and not half as irritating as some of her other drivel. I really like her voice in this actually, her voice shines on this. I know its massively autotuned, but it sounds a lot better than on the likes of Poker Face. There's also less annoying computerisation etc.
It's MUCH better than 'Poker Face', 'Paparazzi', 'Love Game' and everything apart from 'Bad Romance'. It's not as good as that.
Video wise .. love it lol. Its mental, ridiculous and funny. I know there's a plot but lets be honest, it's a bit of a joke. I honestly think they probably started out with a concept along the lines of "let's try and exemplify American society through prison, theft and greasy diners". Then they took this idea and ran, just having as much fun as possible on the way.
I want the cigarette sunglasses so much.
Beyonce is way out of her comfort zone, which makes for slightly uncomfortable viewing, but in a way is great. She is obviously having fun anyway, that's what counts. She needed making a bit more interesting anyway.
Anybody who's read my Gaga posts of the past will know this is a massive turn around in opinion for me!
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Comment number 29.
At 13th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:Yeah , at 26 , I got my telephone head dress and my cigarette sunglasses mixed up !
Typical Saturday night for me !
Now pass me that floral ballgown , I wanna dazzle the audience .
The GaGa video is now up to 8 million hits in 2 days.
I love the magnifying of American excess and greed in the video.
Apparently a lot of TV stations have banned the video , which is kinda gonna add more scandal to proceedings, which adds more fuel to the shock concept.
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Comment number 30.
At 13th Mar 2010, harrythedog10 wrote:What some people have ban the video! Couldn't they just have an edited version made for TV, seriously I can think of worse things on TV than that video.
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At 13th Mar 2010, RandomEnigma wrote:They will edit the video. I was reading a tabloid there which I won't name *cough*The Star*cough* and they said the Telephone video was full of X-rated sex, violence and bad language.
I just had to laugh.
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Comment number 32.
At 13th Mar 2010, RandomEnigma wrote:Oh Lady GaGa's next single from The Fame Monster will be Alejandro and it is rumoured it will continue on from the Telephone video. It is also rumoured that David Walliams will be in it.
I personally think Alejandro is a poor single choice, being the poorest single from the album. That said the song is still really good cos there are no bad tracks on Disc 1 of The Fame Monster in my opinion.
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Comment number 33.
At 13th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:Totally agree Randy .
I would have preferred Monster , Dance in the Dark or Teeth as the next single , but all of the tracks on The Fame Monster have commercial appeal .
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Comment number 34.
At 13th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:Going back to the Gorillaz Stylo single failing to ignite the radio airwaves and top 40 .
Can you imagine if the lead single Bad Romance failed to be a top 40 hit ?
Questions would be asked . :)
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Comment number 35.
At 13th Mar 2010, harrythedog10 wrote:lol, just imagining what would happen if Damon Albarn was singing Bad Romance.
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Comment number 36.
At 14th Mar 2010, BloggingLiam wrote:Pretty sure the world would implode.
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Comment number 37.
At 14th Mar 2010, harrythedog10 wrote:The only thing I could think of that would be better than that is Lady Gaga singing Parklife!
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Comment number 38.
At 14th Mar 2010, OddOne wrote:Can i draw all your attentions to Comment No. 20?
"Yeah , Telephone will be between numbers 10-20 , on Sunday ...."
Yes that was you, spirit... :P
'Telephone is now at No. 5 in the UK Singles Chart. So there. That's a climb of 26 in one week, and it hasn't even been released yet. :P
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Comment number 39.
At 14th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:Thank you Odd One .
;0
Can I also draw your attention to my comment at 26 , that after the video was released , that Telephone would be knocking on the door of the top 10 , tonight .
The video with it's millions of hits in a short space of time has captivated the media and the song buying nation , and this has served as a huge catalyst in the commercial sales of this track .
Yeah , due to these events in the last couple of days Telephone may well enter into the top 10 tonight.
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Comment number 40.
At 14th Mar 2010, OddOne wrote:Ansd in addition, @ Comment 32:
'Alejandro' is a fantastic single choice, granted there are better songs than Aslejandro but that part of the beauty; get the public thinking she's running out of singles, then release a massive stonker for the last single. (DANCE IN THE DARK) *cough*
It's been about 12 years sionce Ace of Base has been heard on the radio and I'm pretty sure it'll be welcomed with open arms by not just young listeners, but those who remember and love the Ase of Base sound.
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Comment number 41.
At 14th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:The video for Telephone has acted as HUGE promotional impetus.
Lady Gaga will be very happy about the use of this tool . :)
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Comment number 42.
At 14th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:Another thing my Odd friend .
I did say @ 2 , that Telephone would explode commercially when the video was released .
And as Randy explained , no one could be quite sure of the date of release , as it had more delays than an Ashley Cole / Cheryl Cole reconciliation .
The fact that it was in the last few days means that a sudden surge for this weeks chart has just happened , and due to this exciting event , I reckon Telephone will now chart between 5 and 12.
Happy now gorgeous ?
:)
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Comment number 43.
At 14th Mar 2010, OddOne wrote:Very happy, and very gorgeous. :P
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Comment number 44.
At 14th Mar 2010, harrythedog10 wrote:Telephone has now risen to no.4 in the Itunes Charts and I expect it to be in the top 3 by tommorow.
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At 14th Mar 2010, RandomEnigma wrote:@ Odd One,
I too love the Ace Of Base influences that can be heard in Alejandro but the song just seems to run out of steam after the first chorus and it just all becomes a little repetitive for me. I think its a great song and no doubt GaGa will make a great video to get me more into the song but I just feel that it is the weakest song on the album.
GaGa has said that she will release four singles from The Fame Monster as she's releasing her third studio album at the end of this years. She said that Speechless will be a future single so I think it's unlikely that Dance In The Dark won't get a release. :(
I would have much preferred Dance In The Dark to be released instead of Alejandro 'cause I think its the best song lyrically on the album.
I welcome the release of Speechless though 'cause it will show people that GaGa can do other types of music than club bangers.
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Comment number 46.
At 14th Mar 2010, harrythedog10 wrote:Personally I think the weakest song on the album is 'So Happy I Could Die' which crosses the line between quirky and just plain wierd.
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Comment number 47.
At 14th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:Some good points there Randy , and the album closer Teeth shows a lot more variation again.
Speechless will maybe shock sone GaGa listeners who think they have The Good Lady sussed .
For album number 3 , I have a feeling we will have variation again , due to the fact that GaGa has a business brain and will want to entertain and shock in equal measure , both musically and visually.
Not being able to second guess her next move , makes her edgy , important , and the wait for new material will be exciting .
The fact that she understands how to write killer pop hooks , and has a handle on her lyrics means that the standard of songs should remain high.
Certain people probably thought that she could never top Just Dance or Poker Face for catchy pop songs , and then she came back with Bad Romance which engaged the listener with a hook , kiterally every line .
I have every faith that album 3 will be extremely relevant in the pop world .
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At 14th Mar 2010, RandomEnigma wrote:Yeah completely forgot about So Happy I Could Die. Yeah, actually that's the weakest song on the album even though my very mature self always gets a good dirty chuckle from GaGa singing about masturbation. Even though Alejandro is the second weakest.
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Comment number 49.
At 14th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:*literally every line *
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Comment number 50.
At 14th Mar 2010, harrythedog10 wrote:It will be interesting to see if Gaga can produce a Thriller-type album next time, in which every track is single worthy. At the moment she seems too desperate to shock people and therefore throws in some pointless tracks on her albums (e.g So Happy I Could Die).
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Comment number 51.
At 14th Mar 2010, RandomEnigma wrote:In fairness, I think all the tracks that are on The Fame Monster are single worthy. That said she's nowhere near on the same par as Michael Jackson.
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Comment number 52.
At 14th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:Yeah , give GaGa another ten years and five more albums at the top , and then we can assess the effect and influence she has had on the face of popular music.
As long as she stays healthy , free of injury and doesn't implode . and continues to progress as an artist and stays relevant in every adventure she takes , and the songs remain at a very high standard , then we can analyse her success .
I hope she has the determination and work ethic to keep the House Of GaGa in excellent working order , with every room looking well furnished and welcoming to the many guests that want to stay the night , over the coming years .
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Comment number 53.
At 14th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:Ha ha !
So Telephone is now number 12 !
So I was right twice !
At 20 , yes it has charted between 10 and 20 .
At 40 , yes it has charted between 5 and 12 .
Please , people , how many times and in how many ways would you like me to be right ?
:)
And OddOne , all I want from you is your acknowledgement and intense love .
:)
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Comment number 54.
At 14th Mar 2010, OddOne wrote:?... Okayy, if you desire it spirit, for behind a horribly snotty and ponsey exterior, I'm really quite nice, and a bit of a pushover. :)
But I still have great expectations of this single, and of 'Alejandro'. As for 'Speechless', I really wanted that to be a single, so when Lady GaGa confirmed it, I was very pleased. :)
But I REALLY wanted 'Dance In the Dark' to be a single... where did she say there was only going to be four singles? I must see...
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At 14th Mar 2010, RandomEnigma wrote:I have no link OddOne but a few months ago, I remember reading that. That said: Hopefully she'll change her mind.
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Comment number 56.
At 14th Mar 2010, BloggingLiam wrote:Itll rise into the top 5 next week I think, but not hit number 1.
I've decided I love it. This is a big moce for me.
I'm also expecting a decent wack of collaborations for Gaga for the next album. Somne unexpected ones I would imagine too,
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Comment number 57.
At 14th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:Yeah , a duet of a sex ballad between GaGa and our own Blogging Liam would be totally unexpected .
Or would it ?
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Comment number 58.
At 15th Mar 2010, BloggingLiam wrote:I've always said I still would :p
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Comment number 59.
At 15th Mar 2010, OddOne wrote:She said she wouldn't do another collaboration for a while now, because 'she thinks it's important for her music to be able to stand on it's own two feet' (See her recent interview with Jonothan Ross for more)
But according to the combined UK and US iTunes chart, 'Telephone' is already at #3, knocking Justin Bieber and Jason Derulo down one.
I do honestly feel another #1 for Goddess GaGa
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Comment number 60.
At 16th Mar 2010, OddOne wrote:Oooh (camp squeal) update!
'Telephone' is now at #2 on the UK iTunes chart. (YY)
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Comment number 61.
At 17th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:Telephone has just been revealed by Dev as the midweek number 2 single, just behind Mr Tempah !
The race is on. . .
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Comment number 62.
At 17th Mar 2010, musiclad wrote:Oh cool no 2 its a stomper of a tune!!
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Comment number 63.
At 17th Mar 2010, OddOne wrote:I think Tinie Tempah will hold on the the top spot for at least one more week. Then not even he will be able to stop 'Telephone.' from taking the crown the following week, just becasue 'Telephone' is 'newer', and Tinie Tempah will have been at the top for three weeks by then.
It doesn't look like there's much competition for top spot in terms of single releases that week so it's alomst a given that 'Telephone' will make #1. Here's hoping.
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Comment number 64.
At 21st Mar 2010, harrythedog10 wrote:There you go, Telephone is no.1. As I predicted Pass Out held on for two weeks and Telephone then knocked it off denying it a third week at the top. Getting things right is fun!
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Comment number 65.
At 21st Mar 2010, OddOne wrote:I did say it would top the charts. :) You're right Harry, this is much fun. :D
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Comment number 66.
At 21st Mar 2010, RandomEnigma wrote:Ugh this is No.2 in Ireland and Boyzone are No.1. What the Hell is wrong with people!
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Comment number 67.
At 21st Mar 2010, spirit wrote:CONGRATS to GaGa for her fourth UK number 1 single !
Harry , I set you a challenge and you passed it , and I owe you a prize.
I am thinking of treating you to a C.D of your choice , but how do I post it through the ether ?
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Comment number 68.
At 22nd Mar 2010, BloggingLiam wrote:I was clearly wrong. Doh.
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Comment number 69.
At 23rd Mar 2010, spirit wrote:I can see GaGa and TEMPAH , battling it out again for Sunday's number 1 , in what is set to be an uneventful chart , with hardly any new entries .
I can't picture ,of all the releases this week , being many high new entries .
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Comment number 70.
At 23rd Mar 2010, harrythedog10 wrote:In a fair world Go Do - Jonsi would be in the top 10 but that seems unlikely.
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Comment number 71.
At 23rd Mar 2010, BloggingLiam wrote::( @ 70.
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Comment number 72.
At 24th Mar 2010, Fluffii wrote:This is such a good song, that is why it's at No.1.
I once went up to my friend and said, "Have you heard Lady Gaga's songs?", and she says, "Ummm, no?" Who has not heard of her??
Its amazing that she did it with Beyonce, I'd love to sing with Beyonce. Who wouldn't? :)
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Comment number 73.
At 24th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:Interesting , Fluffi's comment at 72 has opened a fun debate.
Because a song is number 1 , does it mean it is good ?
Not necessarily , whether a song is good or not is not a case of which chart position it reaches , it is purely down to personal taste . You may prefer a song at number 52 , over a song at number 7 , for example .
However , songs go to number 1 , because in one week , MORE people think this song is good , than any other song around , and they validate this by spending their hard earned cash on it .
So at this moment in time , Telephone is the most popular song in the country right now , liked by a lot of people .
Does it mean it's good ?
Well , that's up for every individual to decide .
And so it goes . . . .
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At 24th Mar 2010, jonesybcfc wrote:Of course it desn't spirit, Bob The Builder got to Number 1. The Cheeyky Girls got to Number 2. You want me to carry on?
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At 24th Mar 2010, harrythedog10 wrote:Just because a song's at no.1 doesn't mean it's good, the proof:
I'LL BE LOVING YOU FOREVER - NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK
WHEN YOU BELIEVE - LEON JACKSON (or any of the X-Factor single, however this one is the most terrible)
CRAZY FROG - CRAZY FROG
NOW YOU'RE GONE - BASSHUNTER
MR BLOBBY - MR BLOBBY (even if the video is brilliant)
YOU'RE BEAUTIFUL - JAMES BLUNT
BATDANCE - PRINCE (how could you Prince? You used to be cool!)
Need I say no more.
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At 24th Mar 2010, harrythedog10 wrote:Sorry but there are worse songs in the world than Bob the Builder.
P.S: I'm only saying because Bob the Builder is my childhood so a knock at him is a knock at me! The Bob The Builder album was actually the first album I ever got, yes I'm man enough to admit that!
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At 24th Mar 2010, jonesybcfc wrote:Well i have to admit it was the first song that came into my head, but i'm afraid its still awful harry. not as bad as Crazy Frog though, i agree.
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Comment number 78.
At 24th Mar 2010, OddOne wrote:'Fight For This Love' hit #1, ... you know the rest. It's just a shame 'Parachute' won't get off it's arse and get there too.
And I agree with spirit, (again) if a song is liked a bit for lots of weeks it can chart at #2 for a number of weeks, a la Take That's 'Rule The World', whereas with songs like Peter Kay's Animated All Star Band's Medley shizz, which hit number one and then bomb doesn't necesarilly mean they're good, but it's because of good cause that people buy them.
And then of course there's the opposite scenario when you get a really good song only get to something like 100 odd. What's that all about?
But then, if a song has charted prior to it's release, it won't chart so well once it's physically released, a la 'Parachute'.
Badly charting song which deserved better:
Goldfrapp - Rocket (#42)
Paloma Faith - Do You Want the Truth or Something Beautiful? (#64)
Take That - Reach Out (#44)
Pet Shop Boys - Did You See Me Coming? (#21, still could've done better)
Mika - Rain (#72 :O)
Paloma Faith - Upside Down (#55 WHAT A SHAM)
Little Boots - Earthquake (#84)
Jonsi - Go Do (#70)
Florence + The Machine - Drumming Song (#56)
Mumford & Sons - The Cave (#36)
Laura Marling - Devil's Spoke (#83)
Florence + The Machine - Kiss With A Fist (#51)
etc, etc. All these songs are universally appealing, and if they got more support on music channels, and if they got acknowledged by radio, maybe N-Dubz might've gone through 2009 completely ignored. :)
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At 24th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:What bit of whether a song is good or not , is down to individual taste , did you guys find confusing ? lol
When the Crazy Frog , showed his genitals and went to number 1 , more people bought his single than any other single in the uk at the time .
That's an official fact !
That means thousands of people thought it was good enough to buy . more than any other single .
It doesn't mean everyone thought it was good , that is down to personal taste .
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At 24th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:Sorry to be PEDANTIC , but Prince's Batdance NEVER went to number 1 , and New Kids on The Blocks only uk number 1 singles were You Got It (The Right Stuff ) and the fantastic Hangin Tough .
Sorry , but I have a degree in number 1 singles , given to me by The Bible of POP . :)
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At 24th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:IN MY VIEW , a lot of songs I personally dislike have got to number 1.
Although it's a fantastic catchy pop song that makes people move their arms in INTERESTING WAYS , I can't abide Y.M.C.A by the Village People , although I am aware millions of people love it .
Personal taste ja ?
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At 24th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:Harry , I personally know two women who think You're Beautiful by James Blunt is the best song ever made .
One even had it as her first wedding dance song !
Personal taste again . . . .
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At 24th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:"First wedding dance song "
That makes her sound like a hussy on her third or fourth marriage .
I meant wwhen she got married , it was the first song , her and the groom danced to at the wedding party.
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At 24th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:@78 , good points Odd One .
Some brilliant songs,
to me , never make the top 40 .
FRIENDLY FIRES - JUMP IN THE POOL
EMPIRE OF THE SUN - WALKING ON A DREAM
INTERPOL- OBSTACLE 1
ENTER SHIKARI - NO SLEEP TONIGHT
ARCADE FIRE - NO CARS GO .
To me , fantastic songs !
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At 24th Mar 2010, BloggingLiam wrote:To be fair guys, this debate is a bit rubbish. Of course chart position isn't a direct indicator of song's brilliance, especially when it does all come down to personal taste. Moving on ..
Lady Gaga. Would you?
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At 24th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:Oh yeah , like this is a more intelligent debate , that stimulates the brain cells and makes us feel like members of Mensa ? lol
In answer to your question Liam .
Already have .
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At 25th Mar 2010, jonesybcfc wrote:I shot the telephone video. So when gaga came to 'see me' in my trailer after filming, beyonce came along too...
:DDDD
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At 25th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:So , it was after spending time in Jonesy's trailer . that turnt both Beyonce AND Gaga lesbian for the video !
That tells us everything !!
lol
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At 25th Mar 2010, Craig wrote:Ha excellent debate guys.
As per the 'do the charts reflect whether a song is good or not'. well obviously not. as mentioned several times, they reflect what is popular at a particular time in comparison to other avaibale tracks at that same time. And only reflects the popularity amongst the single-buying public. unless you're takling good as in technically good, but thats something else. However, the British public do love a gimmick/joke, thus bob the builder, blobby, crazy frog, x-factor etc all getting to the top of the charts.
On the much more interesting gaga debate - would you? hmm...ive had this discussion with loads of people. is she fit or not? i can't tell. I'm inclined to say yes. Although, she needs to stop losing weight, her next to beyonce makes her look a little too skinny.
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At 25th Mar 2010, jonesybcfc wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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At 25th Mar 2010, thranjax wrote:a.) I think I am Lady Gaga, so yes, I would.
b.) Does a high chart position mean a song is good? Not necessarily. Depends what you mean by "Good".
Here's an idea I may not believe: Most people are not fanatical about music and only hear music on the radio and on the television. So their choice is quite limited really. Therefore whatever is promoted best gets heard by more people so sells more.
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At 25th Mar 2010, harrythedog10 wrote:@ 80
I got most of these off a list of the worst no.1 of all time so some of them must have been American no.1's.
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At 25th Mar 2010, harrythedog10 wrote:Seeing as we're never going to agree on what makes a good song, here is a different topic to debate.
MGMT's produced three stunning pop singles, Electric Feel, Kids and Time To Pretend, on their 2008 album Oracular Spectacular only to give us their new album Congratulations, an album that contains no singles and seems to laugh at people who enjoy 'pop music'. Personally I think it's one of the biggest disappointments of the year so far especially after hearing It's Working and Flash Delirium (which are both good songs).
So the new MGMT's Album: Congratulations or Better Luck Next Time.
Discuss
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At 25th Mar 2010, thranjax wrote:I am having a listen now. However I have a thumping headache and I have been off work all week with THAT flu and so I am not in the best mood possible to listen to it. At the moment it is simply annoying me.
It's Working and Flash Delirium are both great, although I could presently have done without the thrashy bit at the end of FD.
I like Lady Dada's Nightmare, it's calming and clearly a direct reference to the subject of the previous track, Brian Eno, which is fun enough. About time he had a song about him!
Song for Dan Treacy I will have to listen to again, it may be quite good but it just hurt too much and went on too long in my current state.
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At 25th Mar 2010, thranjax wrote:I think overall it may be Close But No Cigar rather than Better Luck Next Time. Less Congratulations, more Power to the People.
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At 25th Mar 2010, BloggingLiam wrote:I heard the single for the first time today ... perhaps its a grower?
'Time to pretend' is one of my all time favourite songs. I was kind of hoping for music as good as the first albun, as were many people.
I just HOPE WITH ALL MY HEART that the Klaxons don't do the same.
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At 25th Mar 2010, harrythedog10 wrote:Well considering that they had to redo their new record because it was 'too odd' I'm not expecting another Golden Skans.
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At 26th Mar 2010, spirit wrote:What a disappointment , the new MGMT album is .
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At 27th Mar 2010, BloggingLiam wrote:I won't be able to cope if Klaxon's is the same. If one of them wasn't I'd probably get by. But there's gonna be tears if they both are.
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At 27th Mar 2010, BloggingLiam wrote:And I might as well claim my first 100 while I'm here.
Hai.
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