Geography and History - 4
Posted: Monday, 19 December 2005 |
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Can't say I agree with you at all Arnish. From what I can make of it this is a golden opportunity for the local economy, on a site that is - lets face it - a large bleak space. And you know what? We really need to start being bold and dramatic not timid, useless and conservative. I for one am 100% behind the project. How many times have we heard the line: "Let me make clear that I am not opposed to renewable energy sources, such as wind turbines..." Yeah yeah. But then you continue "But whether they should be placed in locations where the population is not happy to have them is a question of democracy." Well quite, we shall indeed see. I suspect that when people see all the facts before them they will back the project.
Donald from Lewis
Glad to hear that the democratic process will determine the eventual outcome. This has actually taken place during Spring 2005, and people were not happy with the proposals put to them. Not even after the cosmetic amendments from Lewis Wind Power. Recent polls in several districts in Lewis still show 85% against. Some drastic and bold alterations of the plans are required before people in the islands will accept them.
Arnish Lighthouse from Stornoway
I have know faith in the democatic process or the planning process either come to that. The communities in the eight areas affected by the development voted overwhelmingly against. The council chose to be deaf to this demonstration of local democracy and ploughed on with plans it has been working on with Amec over the last four years. The local labour MP of 18years admits he lost his seat because he sat on the fence instead of entering the debate. The Scottish executive has received the largest number of complaints about this development since records began. SNH, RSPB and a whole raft of other organisations are against the proposals. Even the councils own planning officer recommended the council reject the proposals for Harris. But still the argument goes on. We are all nimbys can't we see what is happening to the world. Well I reject that argument I am all in favour of proposals that will help climate change. These porposals however will only exacerbate the problem and leave our island desimated to boot. 1/ Millions of tons of co2 absorbing peat will be removed releasing thousands upon thousands of tonns of co2 into the atmosphere. 2/ Huge amounts of co2 will be used in the construction and maufacturing stages. 3/ All the electricity generated will be sent south at a cost of millions of pounds. In the process 1.5% of the energy generated will be lost every 100KMS through heat loss. 4/ The economy of the islands will be severly affected by the loss of tourisim which is currently growing at over 6% a year. 5/ The island will have to import labour as we don't have 350 out of work construction workers. This could lead to boom and bust and will certainly not lead to any sustainable increase in local economic activity. 5/ Many of those myself included who have easily transferable skills may well consider leaving as we appreaciate the beauty of the islands. We certainly will not want to live in an industrial landscape. 6/ The money generated will be carved up by he Stornoway Trust and the Council. These two bodies have made such a hash of presenting the case for the development that they have managed to set community against community and neighbour against neighbour. God knows what will happen when the money arrives. Look, at the end of the day it's not that I am against wind power I think Lewis could easliy be selfsufficient in electricity through this technology. However what is required are small local schemes to power local communities sensitvely located to accomodate not only Lewis and Harris beautiful landscapes but the whole of Scotlands countryside. This development is about two things money and renewable energy targets (which are ineffective and costly). Hands off our island!!!!!
Gavin Woods from Lewis
I have know faith in the democatic process or the planning process either come to that. The communities in the eight areas affected by the development voted overwhelmingly against. The council chose to be deaf to this demonstration of local democracy and ploughed on with plans it has been working on with Amec over the last four years. The local labour MP of 18years admits he lost his seat because he sat on the fence instead of entering the debate. The Scottish executive has received the largest number of complaints about this development since records began. SNH, RSPB and a whole raft of other organisations are against the proposals. Even the councils own planning officer recommended the council reject the proposals for Harris. But still the argument goes on. We are all nimbys can't we see what is happening to the world. Well I reject that argument I am all in favour of proposals that will help climate change. These porposals however will only exacerbate the problem and leave our island desimated to boot. 1/ Millions of tons of co2 absorbing peat will be removed releasing thousands upon thousands of tonns of co2 into the atmosphere. 2/ Huge amounts of co2 will be used in the construction and maufacturing stages. 3/ All the electricity generated will be sent south at a cost of millions of pounds. In the process 1.5% of the energy generated will be lost every 100KMS through heat loss. 4/ The economy of the islands will be severly affected by the loss of tourisim which is currently growing at over 6% a year. 5/ The island will have to import labour as we don't have 350 out of work construction workers. This could lead to boom and bust and will certainly not lead to any sustainable increase in local economic activity. 5/ Many of those myself included who have easily transferable skills may well consider leaving as we appreaciate the beauty of the islands. We certainly will not want to live in an industrial landscape. 6/ The money generated will be carved up by he Stornoway Trust and the Council. These two bodies have made such a hash of presenting the case for the development that they have managed to set community against community and neighbour against neighbour. God knows what will happen when the money arrives. Look, at the end of the day it's not that I am against wind power I think Lewis could easliy be selfsufficient in electricity through this technology. However what is required are small local schemes to power local communities sensitvely located to accomodate not only Lewis and Harris beautiful landscapes but the whole of Scotlands countryside. This development is about two things money and renewable energy targets (which are ineffective and costly). Hands off our island!!!!!
Gavin Woods from Newmarket Isle of Lewis gkwoods@fnes.net
this is rather excentric i would say
george clooney from greater manchester
With respect you wouldn't think so if you lived on this incredibly beautiful island. Look at the diagrams showing scale and numbers then let me remind you we are an island 42 miles off the mainland. Gavin Cheers Gavin
Gavin Woods from Lewis
Industrial landscape it would be. Nice of Amec to put all the pylons required into a separate application, try to push the thing through before the fisheries and waterways report was available to the public, sweep under the carpet problems with our tiny sinking narrow roads not being able to carry the weight of these huge transporters for 5 years constantly (bang goes the quiet sundays and an integral part of the islands character) - and no widening the roads will not do it unless you're gonna re house people in the roadside villages and provide hellicopters to be on stand by incase there is any accident from one of these huge vehicles on any stretch - no equipment to move one of those from across the only road up the island, with peat bogs either side. Let alone the devistation of the ecosystem through the spilling of just one small bag of cement - and they're gonna stop this amount from being carried onto the road on the underside of trucks at the building depots are they?... remember there are no drains along the road - only peat ditches. One huge F**k up all in the name of government targets which scotland has already met 40% of!...now why don't they start putting them on top of all those power hungery buildings in the cities down in England!... would spoil the view maybe????
Helen Alexander from Isle of Lewis
#1: "Donald from Lewis" - do I feel vibes from Western Isles Enterprise here? In any case, one year after posting your message, your assertion that "when people see all the facts before them they will back the project" does not appear to be borne out by the fury of the islanders now, especially those most affected on the west side of Lewis...and still the objections pour in to the Scottish executive...certain bodies in the island have made a first class job of dividing communities.
Muirneag from Isle of Lewis