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'It was sheer luck' that I escaped Nazi Germany

Rudolph Goldberg and his brother Werner were rescued from Nazi Germany as children, by the Kindertransport (German for children transport) programme.

Rudolph Goldberg and his brother Werner were rescued from Nazi Germany as children, by the Kindertransport (German for children transport) programme.

"So many thousand came, so many more thousand perished, it was sheer luck,鈥 said Rudolph, of the scheme that matched Jewish children with host families abroad.

5 live presenter Adrian Goldberg recorded this interview with his father, before he died at the age of 87 in 2012. The picture shows Rudolph鈥檚 Kindertransport sticker that was stuck on his suitcase, and his pass showing a photo of him as a 13-year-old.

The brothers never saw any of their family again, as they were all killed in the Holocaust, although Rudolph found it 鈥渢oo painful鈥 to find out details of their deaths.

鈥淚 could find out, maybe, maybe not, but it鈥檚 just too painful to do that. I know they perished. Exactly where, how, when; in a way it doesn鈥檛 matter exactly what day,鈥 he said.

This clip is part of 5 live coverage marking the 70th anniversary of the liberation of the concentration camp Auschwitz, where more than 1m Jews were killed.

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