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Detective Inspector Wye
Colleagues, thanks for all your excellent sleuthing. Law and order is safe in your hands. If you want to comment on this investigative experience, email my underling, Tim Bearder, at... tim.bearder@bbc.co.uk

LeatherTracksuit
It was me but I eascaped

Jeg
I had all of the story line right, just the killer wrong. I can be pleased with that I guess. I knew nearly everything, but it was covered up well.

kingp
wooohoooooo i got it i got it

katie
awwww.... its all over.....

mitch
Lloyd is the Mr Big. He used Steph to lure Warren onto the pitch - and the deed is done. Meanwhile, Warren is the one who sabotages Tom Brewer's car - to prevent him finishing his book and spilling the beans - possibly done just before the murder?

AP
Just looking through your comments and I'm a bit confused. How do you access this pathologist's report? Maybe I've just asked a really silly question but could some one tell me please? Thanks

Angela Lansbury
The security guard could easily have done it. It seems that people could wander in and out of the building without being challenged. He had locked all exits by one. He turned off the CCTV cameras. Was he trying to cover his own tracks? Has he a grudge? Where was he when all the action was taking place?

rins
Steph and Lloyd too.

Becky
I'm thinking Judith Steele done it!

Angela Lansbury
The security guard is wearing white, jacket and T shirt. He turned of the CCTV, what has he got to hide.

sylvia T
Delila - I think D was no big fan of Rovers - this was all an act in the same way as her drunkenness. She in fact was Mrs Big and was angry with Warren who wanted to blow the whole thing open. She met Warren on the pitch and after a continuation of the arguement in the function room she found him a sitting duck!

Angela Lansbury
Maybe Mrs Pratt, Harriett and Judith were in it together as revenge for the death of Judith's brother. I think that the clues leading to Lloyd are possibly a red herring. What colour top was Steph wearing? Maybe the cotton was from his own T shirt, has this been checked. If he lifted it himself then that would acount for why they were there. Find the misssing white shirt and see if they are from there.

Detective Inspector Wye
We have a fingerprint match on the Mr Big phone! Stand by...

Angela Lansbury
What Time did you narrow it down to? I cannot find that comment. The path report said 4.45-4.55 so Mrs Pratt's statement isn't that useful. I wonder why Warren ate the cocktail sticks. Maybe that and the cocaine were enough to kill him and the impailment was for effect!!!!!!! Was the consumption and finding of 3 cocktail sticks relevent. Delila mentions them also. Pineaple and cheese on cocktail sticks. Why was Mrs Pratt on the pitch? Is there no security at the club. Obviously peoplle can wander in and out will nilly.

Bairn
I think Stephanie and Lloyd Lovell done it

kingp
steph for me

James
My belief is that its between Stephanie and Lloyd. Delilah was too drunk to do the murder. She didnt even notice her phone fall to the floor, which would have made a big bang. Fergus was in the office at the time of the murder and therefore didnt have enough time. Judith was in the car with Mrs Pratt and Harriett, a concrete alibi. Lloyd changed his shirt with no real reason given. Im going to change my initial thoughts and go for lloyd lovell. As I understand it he would have been angry that Warren turned his back on a move to his team and lashed out. Stories about his wife wouldnt have helped matters. White cotton threads was stated as being under warrens nails...perhaps they came from lloyds shirt?

Jeg
It couldn't be Steph, as she went into Hackett's office whilst he was on the phone; to whom I presume to be behind it.

columbo
how would judith know there were no dead bodies on pitch

Detective Inspector Wye
Colleagues, time now for your final summing up. Whodunnit?

kingp
i feel it was stephanie that has commited the murder as suspicions had been raised about warrens involvment with her was this business and not pleausre i.e she is actually mrs big

Detective Inspector Wye
Good thoughts, Angela and Agatha. we're following up on those now...

Jeg
Thinking back to Harriet's video, it sounds like Hackett had been telling Taylor what was going on, or something was going wrong, as Taylor said who was going to stop him...Doing something? Was Taylor planning to tell Tom about the scam, and Hackett told him not to. When Taylor said who was going to stop him....He has been stopped. As after this Hakett was on the phone withsome one, telling him to take out Taylor?

Angela Lansbury
The text message says it comes from Fergus Hackett but you claim the phone is not registered, it does not mean he sent the message. Why don't you retrieve his phone and check the abandoned one for finger prints.

agatha .c.
we haven't heard much about lloyd, was he in collaboration with stephanie, is he mr.big. did she lure warren onto the pitch, get him to show her his wayne rooney birth mark and then lloyd pierced him with the pole.

Detective Inspector Wye
Colleagues, we're back with you. We feel the solution's close...

Murderer
look over the tapes, whose wearing a white shirt?

junos
lloyd an stephanie's second interviews do not tie together. They should have bumped into each other. Steph went from the ladies, down the corridor to hacketts office and back to the ladies. Lloyd should have past her from the gents to the ladies. also why would lloyd slip into the gents to change his shirt. There was a perfectly good changing room where i assume their kit was already. Was he trying to cover up something on the shirt? Where is that shirt now? Lloyd was wearing what looks like a white cotton shirt in Harriets video.

Angela Lansbury
It was a mobile phone wasn't it? How do you know the calls came from Hackett's office, the phone was mobile?

Detective Marv
Harriets video show Lloyd wearing the first shirt. Delilah's phone shows the second shirt (at 16.40). The murder was at 16.45-16.55. Lloyd must be innocent, isn't he?

Detective Marv
The only people without an alibi at 16.40 are the guard Lockyer and Judith Steele. Everyone with an alibi at that time would be covered for the murder if it takes more than 10 minutes to go to the pitch and back.

Becky
Ok another idea- Judith Steele was Keiron's sister right? Well what if she was mad at Warren for supposedly killing her brother and decided on revenge? And it also says that her parents died in a car crash-do we know the cause of the crash? Because what if Tom, who was at the football ground stalking Warren hence how he would get there so quickly after the murder, had seen Judith kill Warren and was going to confess to the police when his car crashed? and could Judith have cut his brakes just like her parents were (IF they were im just guessing)because she saw him see her kill Warren? This is also probably completely wrong!

Detective Inspector Wye
WE'RE TAKING A BREAK FOR REFLECTION. WE SUGGEST YOU DO THE SAME, COLLEAGUES, AND THAT WE RE-CONVENE TO TRY AND NAIL THIS CASE AT 7.30. MEANTIME, FEEL FREE TO ADD ANY BRIGHT IDEAS!

Detective Inspector Wye
An update for you: we have ruled Harriet Pratt out of our enquiries. She was collected and taken home by her parents. James, welcome back! And Clur: The missed calls were all from Hackett's office and like you we believe it to be the killer's phone and we think that killer is Mr Big. Angela, it WAS Tom in the car and you're right, the crash was definitely at 8am. Becky, interesting ideas, but it was definitely brake failure.

Nicko
Delilah - red herring Hackett - bent but not a murderer Tom Brewer - useless reporter onto a story but not a murderer Judith Steele - red herring Lloyd - Means, motive and opportunity. He follows Taylor onto the pitch whilst, 'looking for his wife'. Taylor proves he can still score, puts the ball in the net, lifts his shirt over his head in celebration and Lloyd kills him. Because Warren has been seeing his wife, Stepahie. Lloyd heads back in and changes his shirt. Where's the shirt he changed out of?

Detective Inspector Wye
My admirable subordinate, PC Grabber, has now tracked down the post mortem report -pathologists! Grabber, you're up for promotion! You can see from the report that "considerable force" was used to kill Taylor. I think it's unlikely that the murderer could have committed the crime with one hand. Nobody was left handed.

James
I know there are clearly a lot of messages on the phone but please check every single message. You could work out who the owner of the phone is by the messages received. Check every number on the phone. The killer owns this phone according to that message.

Clur
When Hackett said before about the deal he had with an unidentified person... does the phone belong to him? can u trace the last calls and see if they lead to a house? what if Warren had done something to be out of the deal and they both got upset... the person may have then been thinking of getting his own back and that is why Hackett sent the text saying leave him alone... ? maybe... just a suggestion though! Also i dont get what the security guard said... did he mean Warren Taylor told him to turn the CCTV off or another person? comments bac please!

Angela Lansbury
The CCTV footage may be working but there doesn't seem to be a link. It aappears that the corpse was woz but whowas in the car when it crashed or was set on fire? Has Tom faked his death? The times definately do not match.

Becky
I've just read Rins thoughts and I agree, except, what if someone had seen Warren plant the bomb in Tom's car and this person who saw him do it was the murderer? Or maybe someone else planted the bomb in Tom's car and Warren saw this person do it and to shut him up they killed Warren? And as for the mobile message,was it Fergus who planted the bomb but with a partner. This partner then spots Warren watching them and goes off to kill him? Could this other person be Greg Chavney? He is Barns chairman and was trying to sign Warren. Could it be that Greg was in a deal with the Fergus planting the bomb in Tom's car to kill Tom becuase Greg himself was trying to sign Warren for Barns and Tom was interrupting Warren's career so they decided to put an end to him. But as they were planting the bomb Warren noticed Greg and Fergus planting it and the Greg killed Warren to protect his own career? Hence Fergus saying on the message "im finished" "but even if i wanted to i couldn't stop you?" That's probably completly wrong but its worth a try!

Detective Inspector Wye
Anglea Lansbury, the ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ South Newsflash was incorrect in saying the crash took place at 7.30, it definitely happened at 8.00. I'll have a word with them, don't you worry! Formal ID has been made of Tom Brewer, who remains comatose at present. The brakes did fail, the car veered off the road, collided with a tree and there was an explosion.We think this was caused by the ignition of petrol fumes.

rins
When was the text sent?

Becky
could you please determine which of the suspects are left handed please DI Wye? I've just been looking at the piccys again and the pole appears to be on the right on Warren's throat. This would mean that the killer is more likely to be left handed as the sheer weight of the pole would cause the aim to head to the right if the pole was in the killers left hand? Im left handed and whenever I throw a javelin it heads to the right!

Angela Lansbury
The ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ South Newsflash put the time of the crime to 7.30 am but the interview with Ann Diamond took place at 8.00. This means that either it isn't the reporter in the car and in hospital or the person phoning the report wasn't the reporter. Has any formal id been made of the body or the injured man recovered from the car? Also, cars don't normally end up on fire if the breaks fail!!! You need to check your times, and formally id the two persons.

Detective Inspector Wye
Rins, what a sobering thought. What does everyone reckon?

PC Grabber
Sorry about the delay, chief. Pathologist had a heavy lunch. Here's his report: Post Mortem Report: Warren Taylor Conducted by Dr Adam Good-Splicer, Police Surgeon, 22.30, 28 July 2005 The body was that of a well nourished Caucasian male in his mid-thirties. Evidence of physical fitness was apparent in the musculature. A large birthmark - the mortuary technician tells me it is exactly the same shape as Wayne Rooney - below the right shoulder was a distinguishing feature. Cause of death: severance of the external carotid artery by a sharp object. This is consistent with stabbing by the football corner post found at the scene of the crime. Estimated time of death 16.45 to 16.55, 28 July 2005. Considerable force and manual dexterity was required. The nature of the entry wound excludes the possibility of suicide and accidental death. No cuts and bruises or other wounds were apparent. Fingernail scrapings contained small white cotton fibres. The victim had picked his nose with his right index finger shortly before death. Analysis of blood and organs: Blood alcohol level 200mg/ml (intoxicated), no evidence of other drugs; brain normal but small and poorly developed; early signs of hepatic atrophy; gastric contents were partially digested cheese, pineapple and 3 cocktail sticks, chicken (with high levels of Salmonella enteritidis consistent with mass catering), potato crisps, pizza and alcohol (possibly red wine). Other significant findings: atrophy of the nasal septum consistent with cocaine abuse.

Detective Inspector Wye
Ms Lansbury, what an honour! Try the CCTV footage again, it's working our end. Glad to know we're not the only ones having technical problems.

rins
Supposing Tom's crash was a coincidence. If Tom had pushed Warren over the edge, W could have put a timed bomb in the car or done something to the car before he was killed. Do we know what caused the crash??

Detective Inspector Wye
Our technical problems are continuing, so again we can only bring you this in transcript. But here is Stephanie Lovell's Second Police Interview... Some people like poking their noses in, don't they? You should be out catching scum 'stead of harassing me and Lloydie. And why d'ya keep asking me the same questions? You deaf or someink? I already told you, didn' I? I come out the party. I goes to see woss 'appenin wiv Delilah. She's ready to puke, and I don't want nothin gettin' on me Jimmy Choos, do I? So I goes to the office, gets me shopping and then I'm tryin' to find hubby. He's not in the Gents and I fink to meself, the silly sod's in the Ladies. Nothin' pervy, jus tryin' to find me! So I goes back in the Ladoes and he's not there neither and there's Delilah rolling abaht on the floor, the silly tart. So I 'elps 'er up and drags 'er out and nex' fing I know there's gobby geezer tellin' everyone Wozza's dead. So put that in your pipe and smoke it. Can I go now?

Angela Lansbury
What has happened to the original CCTV footage it appears to be no longer available to view?

Corn man
You will never solve the case, eh eh!

Detective Inspector Wye
We have technical difficulties, but you can bring you this transcript of Lloyd Lovall's Second Interview Steph’s told you what? What do you mean, our stories don’t match? Course they match! I went to the girls’ bogs lookin’ for her. I gets groped by that Delilah, I clears out of there pronto. I has a quick look around for Steph and when I comes back, she’s there with Delilah. Just like I told you. What? My shirt? What about it? You have footage which shows me wearing two different shirts? Who are you then the fashion police? Well, of course I changed it didn’t I? Me and Steph was leaving and I didn’t want no paparazzi snapping me in me other gear did I? I got a lucrative sponsorship deal. Mr Buyright. I gotta be seen in public with their threads, ain’t I? So I just slipped into the gents and changed me shirt. Ain’t a crime is it? Yeah, then like I says, I went looking for Steph. And there she was with Delilah, just like we all told you. And off we goes to Hackett’s office. Why didn’t I mention it before? Oh well, sorry, officers. I had a bit on me mind. I mean have you ever been intimately fondled by an ageing, over-weight, has-been TV chef? No? I’m tellin’ you man, it messes with your head. Big style. I’m still having flashbacks. Slo-mo action replay horrors every time I close me eyes. Why didn’t I tell ‘em before? Muppets!

Detective Inspector Wye
INCIDENT ROOM REMAINS OPEN DUE TO THE VOLUME OF NEW EVIDENCE REACHING US!!! PLEASE CONTINUE TO SEND YOUR COMMENTS AS THEY ARE VITAL TO OUR INVESTIGATION!!!

Corn Girl
What did Warren know the security guard was doing? Why should Darryl pay him to keep quiet? And why did Warren want the CCTV off?

Detive Inspector Wye
Rins, welcome back! That's a very interesting line of enquiry. Can you develop it further? Corn Girl, we think the brakes were tampered with but we haven't established the exact time. Rebecca, I quite agree that we should get this case sewn up.

PC Plum
The body found on the pitch is Tom Brewer, he was kille d by Warren Taylor. Case Solved!

Detective Inspector Wye
Mary, thanks for remembering about Harriet, can you help Rosie with CCTV and Hackett's office? Corngirl, I agree. We realise that we're experiencing a surge of evidence and so we will hold the incident room open for an extended period. We are nagging the labs for forensics and post mortem reports, they have been written but are still working their way through the system. We hope to be able to publish transcripts of the Lovells' re-interviews soon. Delilah's comments we think are a fake, please disregard them.

rins
What did Warren mean when he said "that geeky little weirdo gets hurt" Could he have planned something to do with the crash?

Corn Girl
Were Tom's brakes tampered with? Was that attempted murder? In which case Fergus could still be in the picture.

rebecca
you need to concentrat on this case so that it is solved and it is safe for other people

Delilah
I DID IT I CONFESS!!!!!!!

Corn Girl
Why did Lloyd change his shirt? Because it was covered in blood! He would also be strong enough to have done the deed, unlike the women. Where did Stephanie go after she picked up her shopping, did she take it to her car, did she see anything. Worse was she having an affair with Warren and did Lloyd discover them together and kill Warren in his rage while Warren was taking his T-shirt off?

Helli
I have studied all the evidence, and believe that the murderer was Harriet Pratt

Corn Girl
further interviews with the Lloyds have been promised, but haven't been forthcoming. Same goes for the forensics - how are we supposed to solve this case within the next hour and information is still missing?

Detective Inspector Wye
Corn girl, I can only apologise for discrepencies between the video evidence and the typescripts. Mrs Kilpatrick, who's been with us now for 38 years is a marvel, but she does sometimes make a slip. Please let us know if you've found any material factual error in her work, or whether it's simply the result of transcribing real speech in a high pressure environment against a dealine. Would you like me to discipline her?

Detective Inspector Wye
Shannon, yes you're right, we need to make progress with this case, I'm hoping for a breakthrough by 5pm... though you never know. Clur, spot on with the match fixing. Now Hackett's held his hands up to that, I feel we're close to a major breakthrough. Junos, I agree Stephanie can't be ruled out as a suspect, but Columbo demonstrates, there are plenty of other strong candidates!

Mary
Harriet is at the party because she is doing a school project and interviewing members of the football club may help her... she stayed in the room when everyone had walked out because she was explaining all the dials on her video recorder to someone...

Xx_Rosie_xX
Who is it that goes into Hackett's office at the beginning of the CCTV video? and what were they doing in there? or is not relevant?

columbo
lloyd doesnt seem to have played a big part in all this....if he is killer there has not been too much to point to him apart from changing top.....perhaps he saw the murder.....that it was steph and covered up for her then wiped cctv

columbo
seems there may be a conspiracy here ...possibly 2 or 3 people conspired to kill warren for diff reasons judith as she thinks warren killed kieron.....and delilah re fixing, mr big and jealousy

columbo
couple of queries and my final thought. cctv footage shows warren going to dressing room then pitch you also see hackett, lloyd, tephanie and delilah if the killer followed warren to pitch then it would be caught on cctv has this been looked at if cctv shows nothing and hasnt been tampered then murdered was already at pitch stephanie could have got in ground as supporter and hid or tom in as reporter and hid was warren already dead with drug overdose when stabbed. did he pull top over own head then pass out. was stephanie or judith having affair and with warren on pitch think mr big is tom or maybe more likely....delilah......warren threatened to blow the whistle...also warren was prob sleeping with steph or judith and delilah caught them on pitch and with jealousy and blackmail being threatened to be revealed she killed warren tom possibly mistakenly saw murder or murdered and wanted big story and delilah had car tampered with to get him out of picture

junos
inspector, we know that stephanie went to the toilet to check on delilah who is drunk and according to Judith didn't recognise her so is probably fairly drunk. we have footage from the phone to show when lloyd goes to look for her but she is not there. His statement says when the body was found, Steph came out of the bog. this means she came out of the toilet and at 16.40 went to pick up her shopping from Fergus's office. She has time to leave the ladies, exit by the only door in the changing room so no one would see her go, commit murder, return to the office and then the toilets from which she emerges when the body is discovered, Delilah is lushed out and wouldn't know if she had been in there or not. What happened to her shopping? Warren could have been having a thing with her which is why he may have been in the process of taking off his shirt. the flag pole entered from an upward motion if he was attacked while standing. Why else would he be taking off a clean shirt? However when fergus was questioned for a second time, you ask him about the number which appears on phone on a number of occassions, this must be MR or MRS big and if the phone companies could tell us who it belongs to, we may have a killer!

Clur
so who edited the CCTV? (well turned it off) and what happened in that corridor afterwards? (sorry u forgot to put the question in my other post!

Clur
in the video what is it that Fergus takes? could he be in with all the drugs? and plus... We saw stephanie going after Delilah but when Lloyd goes back afterwards looking for her... there is noly delilah in the toilets... where was stephanie at this time? maybe when the CCTV went off (her fault? i dont know) and she followed Taylor? just a couple of suggestions...

columbo
hackets confession re match fixing with warren was obvious....but not necessarily relevant to killing

shannon
and you are meant to figure this out before 5pm today

Helli
Why was Harriet at the party in the first place? hmmm....

Corn Girl
The Barns chairman said he thought Oxford were skint. A look in the books would confirm or refute this. Anyway, even if the club isn't skint, drugs and gambling are expensive habits and the new footage of Fergus clearly shows he's up to something, even if it isn't clear what. Where was the footage taken?

junos
inspector, we have deduced that the CCTV footage ended abruptly but who had access to the recording device? Fergus. would anyone else know where it was located?

Detective Inspector Wye
Delboy, are you insinuating that Warren was exercising even more vices on the football field. Come on! Even he's not that stupid! We can confirm that the dead man is Warren Taylor. Keep up! You should know already that the club wasn't in any financial trouble.

Detective Inspector Wye
Jeg, perhaps you're on to something regarding Hackett and match fixing. There's been lots of comings and goings with his solicitor, I believe. Expect further developments soon. Columbo and Junos, we quite agree with you, Judith is a VERY strange person. It's a good theory that she's collaborating with Delilah in some way. They make a good pair. You should count your blessings that you haven't met either of them.

Detective Inspector Wye
James and Pedro, interesting thoughts but where's your evidence? Corn girl, you really shouldn't confess to a crime that you didnt commit. I'm afraid Tom's in a bad way. Still in a coma. We suspect there was a problem with the breaks. Interesting theory about Warren and Hackett. They've known each other for a long time. We don't think the club was in financial trouble.

Delboy
looking at the position of Warren in the original picture (feet flat on the ground with knees pulled up) I reckon he was lured there by a female (Stephanie) and said female was in the process of removing his shirt when the actual killer struck (Fergus) seems too obvious but there seems to be a link between him and Steph. Is there a large insurance policy out on Warren which the club would benefit from. Has the autopsy confirmed the dead man is Warren - could he fake his own death to clear gambling debts?

Corn Girl
Who is responsiple for the tapescripts? How are we supposed to do our homework when they are full of mistakes. The Oxcopz one is just full of mistakes! And it's not the only one.

junos
Judith Stell could have a motive or be the reason things have happened. she may have been bitter that having spent or wasted her life looking after her brother, it was all taken away from her by warren and fergus. she could have been blackmailing them and to raise the money, warren was having to lose matches so someone could make money to pay her off. The reason why Warren was playing badly and what seems to be on purpose is key but unless we have evidence, it died with Warren. Are we going to search Warrens home for clues?

Corn Girl
What does Fergus know about the death of Kieron? If Warren was involved and Fergus knows this, maybe Fergus was blackmailing Warren to fix the game to win a bet? Can we see the clubs books? Is it in finacial trouble? Perhaps Warren wanted to go public with everything and that's what they were arguing about at the party? And that's why Fergus wanted Tom to stay clear of Warren. Perhaps Tom got his interview with Warren before he was killed and that's why somebody tried to kill him? Did Tom see the murder?

columbo
what time was match kick off...if death occured at 4.40 and during funtion...was it an early kick off could be delilah knew something about warren/hacket and was blackmailing him....warren threatened to spill beans and was murdered

columbo
judith steele seems dodgy.....she has the vents right regarding the function but refers to harry as a boy.....is this a mistake.....or was she at party.....she says delilah didnt recognize her but deleilah eventually recognises that judith was there.....perhaps delilah and judith comitted murder together.....judith cos she believed warren was responsible for kierons death and judith cos warren kept rejecting her and she knew he was match fixing for hackett

Corn Girl
Inspector I hope you are checking Fergus's alibi at the golf course. How was the explosion detinated? Could a bomb have been planted during the night? Or did something else cause the explosion?

Pedro
I think that Stephanie and LLoyd have done a double team effort

Jeg
Fergus is obviously rigging matches. Unless the other number he called was Delilahs.

Corn Girl
You're right, I did it. I flew over from Germany for the evening to kill him and flew over again to bump off the reporter. No, being serious, If you listen to Anne's coversation with Tom, you hear him say there is something wrong with his car and then you hear the crash.

Detective Inspector Wye
PC Grabber has put a timeline together to help us with our investigations. Grabber isn't much of a typist so we're just giving you the essentials. 12.00 match ends, 13.00 party begins, 16.00 Jerome Sale's match report broadcast on Radio Oxford. 16.30ish party begins to break up (CCTV to about 16.32), 16.50 Tom finds body on pitch, 17.00 Tom files his report and the police arrive (or maybe it was in the reverse order?).

zebra
Is Luis a football player also? Is there any records of Delilas funding of the football team? How rich is she and is there a hubby or partner on the scene?

Zebra
Are any other people involved from the USA?

James
I believe the killer is Stephanie. Her whereabouts cannot be pinned down. Everyone else can be nailed down.

Detective Inspector Wye
Corn girl, we had no choice but to go onto the field and frankly, it was so churned up by so many people, you're not going to get any reliable evidence there. The Doctors tell me Tom Brewer's too poorly to be interviewed at the moment, but we'll keep you posted.

Mike G
Steele's evidence is dodgy - we are told in the obituary Taylor was brought up in a series of Foster homes yet Judith claims responsibility for his upbringing in her interview?

James
A car incident, doesnt sound great. I reckon he wont survive his injuries. Someone didnt want him to tell the secret obviously. Fergus had the row with him the night of the murder. Fergus has the big motive. The killer covering his tracks? The evidence around him is compromised because the ground will be mashed up. You wont be able to see who was where on that pitch.

Detective Inspector Wye
Corngirl, you must be psychic! Or else maybe YOU'RE a suspect? Check out Anne Diamond's exclusive update!

Corn Girl
We need more news on Tom. Is he capeable of giving an interview? Are the police at the hospital? Is he under protection, as his life is possibly in danger.

Corn Girl
If the footprints were from earlier when the pitch was stormed, why have they comprimised the evidence as it says in the SOC report?

Detective Inspector Wye
Ms Steele was well-known for her work in the community as a campaigner against drugs and may have been invited for that reason. We'll ask her who invited her and post the interview as soon as we can.

Detective Inspector Wye
James, we've taken the unusual step of naming names because of the innovative nature of this investigation. Obviously you are party to this priveleged information and you would be committing a serious offence if you repeated or published it elsewhere. I'm sure I can rely on your complete confidentiality. Miss Marple, I will not accept any slur on the probity of my officers. I welcome the application of your incisive mind to this sorry business, but might I suggest you stay off the sherry until the sun is over the yard arm? My officers would certainly never stoop to murder!

Detective Inspector Wye
Lee & Bec, Warren Taylor was right handed. Columbo, good work, you've given us all a lot to think about. Matt, we'll post an interview with the secuirty guard later today. Corn Girl, the footprints are from the earlier pitch invasions. Rhys, we're trying to contact Lloyd Lovell about his 2 shirts and hope to bring you his interview sometime this afternoon. Junos, cracking stuff. Would you be interested in a job on my team after we break this case?

Corn Girl
Tom's conversation with Anne seems to suggest that he had a car crash. What do the police know about this? Did he ever make it to the studio? Where is the forensic report?

junos
Why was judith Steele at the charity function? Her brother had not played for either club,why invite her.What is the connection? I think we must have two people working together to have committed this murder

Detective Inspector Wye
James and others, we hope to let you have a timeline of the events in the near future. We just want to double check we've got the times right before we put it up.

Detective Inspector Wye
Lee, good point about the shopping. We're re-interviewing Stephanie shortly.

Detective Inspector Wye
Becky, Jefferson Rooney is now confirmed as being in Birmingham visiting his nan at the time of the attack. He's been ruled out of our enquiries.

Detective Inspector Wye
Lee, One of my officers has been sent to question Harriet Pratt.

Detective Inspector Wye
Mike T, Oxford Rovers Chairman is Mr Farouk Abbas, currently on a business trip in Luxembourg. We've ruled him out of our enquirires. Mike G, Tom Brewer joined ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ Oxford 4 years ago, straight from college. It's his first post. We've found no significant links with any of the other suspects at this stage, but enquiries are ongoing.

Detective Inspector Wye
Mike T, my officers are currently interviewing the security guard about your questions, We hope to post that interview shortly. Also, Junos and many others, we're bringing in Fergus Hackett for a second interview any time now.

Detective Inspector Wye
Rins, the corner posts are hefty steel and you;re right it would be a tough job for a woman! They tell me it's still possible though, if she ws angry and determined enough...

Mike G
Thats to Badger's article we have a revenge motive for Judith Steele to kill Taylor because she believed him to be a reason for her younger brother's death. However it would make sense if she had an accomplice. Could we have any background on Tom? When he joined the ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ, previous locations and/or names?

Jonathan
I don't think that the video is anything to do with the actual murder - unless Warren was already dead, or unconscious, would Delilah have had the time to "pick her spot"?

junos
Taylor was going to sign to Barns and all of a sudden oxford make a £1 million 4year contract offer! I think something fishy is going on and I think Fergus knows whats going on. Judith Steele infers that Warren and Fergus had a part in her brothers death. We need to speak to Fergus on numerous issues but he's looking good for me as prime suspect. Did he kill Warren to stop him dragging himself down with him in what ever the issue was on Harriets Video. Come on DIY, pull your finger out

Mike T
Inspector Wye - We need to know who the chairman of Oxford is? and who wanted Warren to join Oxford?

rins
how heavy are the poles? They look far to big for my main suspect, Stephanie to handel alone. And I doubt it was a predicted murder or the murderer would have brought a better thing to kill him with.

Detective Inspector Wye
That's it I'm issuing a warrant for Tom's arrest!

Audrey Dawson
I don't think a woman would be able to haul that pole up and strike the victim with it. Mind you Delilah does look a bit on the hefty side..... I think it has to be Fergus so far...

Badger
Steeley – I got this on Beeb Berks website. Easy when you know how ;-) if you cut and paste it into the browser and take out the gap where the line break is after articles: http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/content/ articles/2005/07/29/oxford_judith_steele_qa.shtml

Detective Inspector Wye
Thanks for your suggestions Junos and James, we’ve contacted the phone company and it would seem that Delilah Morris Piper was being called by her elderly mother when she was trying to answer the phone. The time of that missed call was 16:40

James
Can the police really name informants to suspects of murder during an investigations? I thought that was breaking the rules. This Steele character isz the underpoinning character here linking the killer to Warren. Inspecter Wye should re-interview Lloyd, Stephanie and Fergus and ask if they know her and if they do, what her connection is to Warren. Some of the clues here are red herrings, for example the tape of the cooking show. Delilah was drunk, she physically couldnt do it. She may have been angry and drunk and had slightly psychotic tendencies but that doesnt make her a killer unless the other clues fit. We know she was with Lloyd. My theory is that the killer is Stephanie. Im reckoning her maiden name is Steele and she is the sister of the drugs victim Steele. She was angry when she found out that her brother had died through drugs and blamed Warren for it, since he has a drugs problem and may well have shared his drugs with him. She has a gap in terms of time, she goes into the toilets with Delilah but then disappears, reappearing in Fergus' office. Ask Stephanie about this Steele character and watch for her reaction.

junos
DI Wye, Judith steel. Related to Keiron Steel by chance? Go to it inspector

Corn Girl
We need an interview with Judith Steele immediately. What is her relation to Kieron Steele? What is she doing at the party? We need details of her movements!

junos
Are you able to question fergus again? In his telephone call he makes mention that Tom should stay clear of Warren tonight? Why? What does he know? Can we also ask him about the financial status of the club. Delilah mentions a cheap buffet etc but the club gave Warren a long and lucrative contract. the CCTV cuts out, does he control it from his office? Does he have keys for the emergency exits? Can you investigate his employment history and involvement with the death of Keiron Steel,if any? The clip on Harriets video obviously implies that he had spoken to Warren Taylor about something he already knew about. What was it? Have we checked to see if anyone was related to Kieron Steel? Maiden names, deed poll changes etc. Can we check Delilah's phone records to see who called her when she was trying to answer her phone? Do we know when the forensic report will be available? Warren was found on the penalty spot according to Tom's report. He was stabbed through his neck. This implies from the photo's that his shirt was already over his head. Two options maybe, he had a struggle with his killer who pinned him down, got his shirt over his head and then spiked him with force. Not likely. Other option, he knew his killer and was happy to take off his shirt and while this happened he was stabbed, was warren having a secret love affair with some one, maybe Fergus? Horrible thought, I know? Sorry Fergus, i'm sure your mother loved you. Where does stephanie go to after she leaves Fergus's office with her shopping, She does not appear to be in the building which implies she would have had to exited via the changing rooms and assumingly bump into Warren. Just a few questions to consider! Can you get an APB on Tom or is that just an American thing?

Mike T
Harriet's Video shows a full 60 seconds elapsing between Hackett leaving the function room and Taylor leaving. However, the CCTV shows only 30 seconds and has therefore clearly been tampered with - presumably to delete the fact that Hackett left his office. His story and Steohanie's are similar though not identical so it looks as though they were in collusion. Now all we need is the real motive and we're nearly there! - Wonder what today will bring?

rins
So who is this Judith Steele and how come nobody else at the party has mentioned her?

Victor
I am not have comment in this moment.

Rhys
There are 2 and only 2 possible suspects, firstly Lloyd Lovell, between leaving the function room and seeing Delilah he must have changed his shirt, he would have done this in the changing rooms, which you would be able to see the pitch from, Warren may have been in the changing room taking his shirt off when lloyd comes in holds him there, takes him to the pitch and stabs him, also we here from hackett that Steph came into see him but Lloyd seems to think he did too, where was Lloyd really?. Secondly - who i am less sure about, Delilah, we see her action of stabbing the duck and teh angle of the knife very similar to teh angle the corner flag is found in warren, plus we do not have full time tabs on teh whereabouts of Delilah!!! Also considering Steph Lovell, i think she is very unlikely as if she went to the pitch to kill Warren she would at some stage have come across her husband due to the layout of the buildings. Unless of course her and her Lloyd did it together???

Miss Marple
Clearly it was the policeman - that's why Tom was so inconsistent in his reports - poice are coming/here...and why he's disappeared now. His is the next body that will be found. Either that or he's in cahoots with his new lover - the policeman who filed the Scene of Crime report. Just like the Jimmy the butcher's boy who pulled the cat's tail.

Jublum
Danny Cox from radio Oxford is the Grip on Delilahs cooking show. This could be the information which solves the entire case!

Corn Girl
The SOC report says there were many footprints around the body comprimising the forensic evidence. Where did they come from? Was it the reporter while he was taking his photos? Was there more than one murderer? Also was Warren taking his t-shirt off or putting a clean one on coming from the changing rooms onto the pitch? Where were all the suits and stiffs from the board that Lloyd talks about? Was the mysterious fourth person on the video Harriet? Who filmed the cooking programme? Perhaps the reporter or someone else had already seen it and wanted to frame Delilah. It certainly looks like Warren was trying to fix the match. Also it seems Fergus was in on it, because he talked about having to fix things. Perhaps Tom had found out about this and that's why Fergus wants him to stay away from Warren. Perhaps this is why Tom is speaking in a hushed tone because he didn't want to be noticed and be killed too? This might also explain why he has disappeared.

kerry
it was the girlfriend

Lee
What are the where abouts of Harriet Pratt and where is her statement?

columbo
excuse me sir...one more thing.....im confused but here goes.seems obvious warren has been blackmailed into match fixing, but by who......either to pay off gambling debts, or lloyd lovell, although not sure why....to embarrass him and his career....lose match or be killed......or hackett to pay off club debt.delilah is clearly mad or obsessed but seems to obvious, although perhaps she found out that mr lovell was up to something with warren and she killed him.tom seems prime suspect as lied re report and he was already at function or at least inside ground and everybody seems to be missing that in stephanie report she said she saw creepy tom there....but dont know motive....unless to do with his past....wanting to be a big name....re shirt over head...perhaps he did pull it over own head when lying on penalty thought thinking of game and passed out.....then he was murdered.....birth mark would confirm identity....hackett lied about call and is involved with tom.....perhaps hackett was being blackmailed or blackmailing tom and warren was murdered cos result didnt go as planned...stephanie story seems truth but why with delilah?,lloyd statement in fairness ties up....cctv clip unclear but someone follows warren to gents loo with wine......clip jumpy on my pc so not sure...+

Matt
I think it's all about the CCTV. It must have been deliberately shut off (why else would it end before seeing who followed Taylor). Since Delilah and Steph are in the bathroom and Fergus is in his office with the door closed (you can tell because you would see it open like you saw it close when he entered. Unless there is some way to disable the camera other than to disconnect it to the wall, Lovell was the only one in a position to do this. Probably Taylor was involved with his wife.

Lee + Bec
Was Warren Taylor left or right handed because this would explain the left side of the shirt being pulled up further than the right. which might reveal whether or not he was the one that lifted his shirt into that position, or not!

James
If the times could be provided, and to be honest they could be really, you can match the times to see if any gaps appear in the story, enough time to walk through the changing rooms, outside and to the penalty area, do the deed, then get back inside without anyone noticing. Get in contact with the phone people and get the times of the calls.

Lee
Wheres the shopping when Steph comes staggering out the bog with Delilah?

Lee
Hackett stated that he was on the phone to his wife, but in Toms recording Hackett was on the phone to him. Surely Hackett should have provided this information unless he has someting to hide.

Unknown
Must be someone done it.

ryan
i think delilah and lloyd should get together

Bob B
I'm enjoying this amateur sleuthing! But I agree with what someone else said that Delilah is too obvious a character (and also, I reckon, too pissed to overcome a fit young chap like Warren). At the mo, my money's on Hackett....

ryasn keating
dunno anything i just came on

No**** Sherlock
DI Wye, I cannot understand your response, so please clarify. Tom Brewer first states in his news flash that the police and paramedics will be attending SHORTLY. The scene of crime report states that Police attended in RESPONSE to call from a member of the public. Why would it say that if you received calls from members of the public AFTER his broadcast? If Tom were present when the Police attended,where is his statement?

Becky
After writing the last bit that I thought Jefferson done it,I wonder has anyone actually looked into Jefferson Rooney's whereabouts at the time of death?

Lee
in Deliliah's phone, lloyd appears wearing a blue shirt yet in Harriet Pratt's video he is wearing a white shirt and a black jacket! does he state any-where that he got changed?

Detective Inspector Wye
The incident room will be closed while we pursue enquiries. It will re-open at 9 am tomorrow, by which time we hope to have further evidence. Thank you for all your hard work. Please feel free to continue leaving your comments for us to go through in the morning. Cheers!!!!

Mike G
The phone call was obviously made when Steph was picking up her shopping, we hear him say 'its over there' etc. We really need more CCTV Wye, to show where Hackett and Stephanie went. Its urgent inspector now get to work!

Detective Inspector Wye
Mitch, the windows all appear to have been locked.

Detective Inspector Wye
No Sherlock, I can confirm Tom Brewer was at the ground when police and paramedics arrived. We received a number of calls from concerned members of the public AFTER his broadcast. I want to stress that Mr Brewer's report was made without the knowledge of the Scene of Crime Officer and if we had been aware of Tom Brewer's intentions, we would not have given approval for this broadcast. It appears that Mr Brewer is either very confused or being a little less than candid about the sequence of events, perhaps because he was aware that he was in breach of our protocols. Once more, I would ask Tom Brewer or anyone who knows of his whereabouts to contact us.

No**** Sherlock
Please ignore the last statement of my previous comment. The comment box is so small you cant really read what youve typed in, in full before submitting.

Derek Shields
It's brilliant to see Oxford at it again.

Becky
Jefferson Rooney done it. He is the only one briefly covered and I think he done it becuase he was competing with Warren Taylor for a place at Barns.

Jonathan
Howcome there isn't a time on the CCTV footage? Do we have any idea what time the footage was taken?

Lee
i would also like to get Tom Brewer's actions before and during the incident. Also has any-one been checked for BIG gambling problem's, maybe warren lost them alot of money by missing the penalties!

Jeg
That cooking programme seems to be a bit obvious.... She likes to skewer things though. And she got well into probing that duck...

Saz
Think he did himself in trying to egt away from anoying brat Harriet

No Sherlock
Tom at first states in the News Flah that the Police and Paramedics are shortly to be in attendance. Then he goes on to say that Police and forensic experts are refusing to comment on whose body it is. Scene of crime report states police were informed by a member of public who were listening on to the News flash. So obviously there were no Police/Forensics about when he reported live. How could he be aware that the Police were going to be there anyway? he has not reported the crime and he could not have known that a member of the public called it in. Too many inconsistencies in his News Flash report lead me to believe Tom killed Warren Taylor. While others may had the motive they did not have the opportunity. Toms motive may be that he was Keiron Steele's(the chappie who OD'd and WT was blamed for it) lover or somehow very closely connected to this chap. What say you? Tom, the reporter claims the police were called in by a MEMBER of the public when they were listening to the radio show.

kingp
has anyone considered the possibility of suicide?

Detective Inspector Wye
Colleagues, we've been in contact with ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ Oxford over Tom Brewer's original broadcast. They say they're unable to contact him at present. We would appeal to anyone who knows of the current whereabouts of Mr Brewer to let us know. And Tom, if you're reading this, pick up the phone. We really need to speak to you, if only to eliminate you from our enquiries.

Detective Inspector Wye
Spuddy, this is the 57th crime you've confessed to this month. We know you didn't do it, or the Banbury Cakes Blag either.

Bairn
Was Tom Brewer seen by anyone at the ground? and has he been interviewed?

Detective Inspector Wye
Sorry Sue, we don't have any information about that at this stage.

Mike G
When was the cooking programme made Inspector? Perhaps Delilah was sending a message out if she knew something would happen (not necessarily suggesting she commited the murder)?

Detective Inspector Wye
N, the match actually took place in daytime, the floodlights were on for some of the time, we think because of poor light for part of the afternoon. English weather! It's not clear in the photos, but Warren actually has a distinctive birthmark (shaped like Wayne Rooney). What I'm wondering is how did Tom Brewer know that? We're actively trying to contact Mr Brewer now...

Mitch
What about windows? It is plausible that any killer, knowing about the CCTV, would opt for them as a route out to the pitch, rather than the doors or corridors. This would probably rile out anyone in the Function Room, as the people in there would see them - so there's Hackett, Mrs Lovell and Delilah. (assuming more CCTV isn't forthcoming...) Hackett could in theory, slip out of his office window, around the outside of the building and to the changing room - but didn't know that Taylor would be there. Only Delilah and Lovell would - and they could (potentially) see Hackett from their window - unless it was frosted up. They also knew where Taylor had went.

sue r
radio oxford report says that he was found with his "throat bared" but the photos don't look as though it is - the whole report is a bit suspect - was it filed from somewhere else based on details given to the reporter by phone maybe?

Poirot
i think its Fergus Hackett, he had a bad game, there was something about 'clearing up the mess' and he looks like a sly guy.

Andrew
Is it any coincidence that he scores and own goal and misses a penalty and has previous gambling problems. Maybe why he started crying when the goal went in, forced to throw the match

katie
i think the new video of delilahs cooking shows that she is a bit crazy when it comes to knives!! however i think i this is all too obvious!!

Tish
i killed him

Sarah's Brother
spuddy, next time you want to come to the Incident Room, consider the consequences of misleading police.

kevin
i think it could be the jealous husband

tomi west
what did he do to deserve death

Earthworm Jim
It was his girlfriend. You can tell its obvious

Sue
Have any of the suspects had their shoes or clothes taken and checked for evidence from the scene?

Mr Inventive
The Butler Did It!

N
how did tom come to know about the murder? and the lights were off, so how did he know if someone was out on the pitch? Also, did Tom lift the shirt to see it was warren? how did he know it was warren, as it cant be established from the photo's?

Detective Inspector Wye
Katie, we'll just have to wait for the post mortem report.

Detective Inspector Wye
Stu Magoo, an interesting theory. Katie, a good question - it could be key. Jan, we don't know of anyone who was a javelin thrower, unfortuntely. Mike G, more interesting theories, but where's your evidence? Sammie, we'll follow up on Mrs Hackett, we're trying to contact her now. Lee, you've spotted an inconsistency. We'll call Lloyd and Stephanie in for re-interview.

rins
Why in the radio report was Tom speaking hushed?

spuddy
i killed him, sorry, but he deserved it.

dave
what is going on a leave the uk for a short while and what happen all hell breaks loose in oxford

Detective Inspector Wye
Junos, we can now confirm that Warren Taylor and Fergus Hackett met when taylor was playing at Thames Valley Royals and Hackett was Assistant Manager.

Nicko
Lee - Steph's and Lloyd's statements do match up. Steph follows Delilah into bog then goes to office. Lloyd looks for Steph in bog, encounters Delilah, leaves bog to look for Steph. Steph exits office, re-enters bog, brings out Delilah, encounters Lloyd. The question is, where did Lloyd go when he went to look for Steph? We can assume it wouldn't be the gents, if it had been the office he would have found her so it can only have been the function room or... the pitch. Did anyone see him re-enter the function room?

whodunnit
wow

Sarah
As for the forensic report: what was on the t-shirt? Sweat? Claret? Anything to suggest it had been worn? DNA from a friendly killer offering to help him clean it?

Detective Inspector Wye
Junos, have you considered a career with Cherwell Valley Police? The plan did show only one exit. There were emergency exits but they all appear to be locked at the time of the murder. Security is under investigation. The point about the third person in the video is well made and this line of enquiry is very promising.

Old Bill
Can someone tell me whether the reporter has been interviewed yet?

allen
loyd lovell killed warren taylor

Mac
Kieron Steele was a young player at Thames Valley Rovers who died after taking an ecstasy tablet.

Lee
The angle at which the flag has been impaled at suggest's that he may have been already lying down at the time of the crime. Also the lighter marks of blood on Warren's shirt doesnt seem to be correct for the way the bodie is lay.

Mac
I've got a question relating to the SOC report, DI Wye. It states that Police were called to Rovers' ground following a phone call by a member of the public listening to Radio Oxford. However, a part of the news flash from Tom Brewer's implies that the police are already there as he says, ‘At this stage police are refusing to comment. But I can tell you there's little doubt about his identity… It's the body of prominent Rovers player Warren Taylor.’ I think Tom Brewer’s report has some conflicting information in it that needs further investigation.

ethan
i think warren took of his shirt to make shure no bllod got on it

Miles Keogh
Lloyd is your man. He said he went in the ladies and saw Delilah and went out to look for Steph. But Steph was in the ladies all along.

ben
update please

Jeg
Tom is talking hushed on the radio...Not wanting to be heard by others at the ground?

Detective Inspector Wye
Miss Scarlett. This is a SERIOUS investigation. It is NOT fun. May I remind you a man has died. Catherine, the hand holding the glass in the CCTV footage is that of Delilah Morris-Piper. Bowie, no footballs were found in the goal mouth. Roy, there is no more CCTV footage available. We are trying to establish why. Expect more news later. Inspector Weston, you seem VERY stressed. Would you like us to refer you to a trauma counsellor?

Mike G
Can we get a challenging interview with Tom please 'spector? His story corrupt, at one part he says the police are 'shortly' to be in attendance then only 10 seconds later he says the police are not saying anything. But they're not even there yet are they? Also someone mentioned earlier how he could notice is was Warren Taylor under the shirt. As to how he was killed, i reckon Warren went to the changing room, scored some drugs, got a bit you know, started hallucinating, imagined himself scoring the winning goal at the world cup final, run around celebrating (shirt over face) and eventually ended up in a drug-ridden haze on the penalty spot, where someone crept over did the deed. Inspector, can we ask if there had been any recent taking of drugs in the last 6 hours of his death?

Ahleanna
With regard to the upcoming postmortem report: Contents of the blood stream and stomach, i.e. amount of alcohol, any drugs, etc; any possible trauma, scratches, bruises, along with fingernail scrapings, etc. - stuff that's less obvious than the blatant punctured throat ;o)

Sarah
Let's think about what happens when the people leave the CCTV's view. We see Warren enter the changing room after the claret had been spilt on his shirt. How soon after this is his body discovered? Did he change in the changing room before walking out onto the pitch? If so, why was he removing his shirt as he walked out? Was he taking off the stained shirt when he was attacked? If so, where is the claret stain? As for Tom's report, it makes no sense. First, why was Tom there? He says a body has been found, and then he says HE found it. Then he says the police will be there shortly, but refuses to answer whether there's any more he can tell there. That is at 53 seconds. Then, in the transcript, he says that the police are refusing to comment, but he does not actually say this. Later, the transcript says police forensic experts are currently examining the scene, but again, Ton does NOT ACTUALLY SAY this. Heads are going to roll for the transcription. So finer tuned questions: is there CCTV in the changing rooms or at the entrance to the changing rooms? If he changed, has the wine-stained t-shirt been found? Why was Tom there? Who messed up the transcription? And why did he not sound shaken by the discovery of a body? He didn’t sound shocked, only excited and tense.

James
Lee, that was Lloyd Lovell. If you watch the footage Harriet Pratt made it shows who left in which order.

Dective Inspector Wye
Shannon, Harriett's only eleven years old and we don't think she'd have the strength to commit this crime. However, she did cut off a girl's pigtails at school last year. Stephanie tells us that she was looking for Lloyd at the time.

Rob
He joined Margate FC therefore his life was over

captin caveman
he's just dead.

Detective Inspector Wye
Columbo, good points. We're currently checking the party guests to see if anyone is related to Kieron Steele. We can rule out Stephanie Lovall on this, her maiden name was Evans.

Mac
Why would Warren take his shirt off when he was on the pitch?

katie
did warren take off his shirt because it was stained with the wine ( or whatever it is) and whilst doing so slipped. it could all be just an axcident!

Lee
on the Harriets Video Lloyd seems to be a little anxious when he is given the glass of wine, and seem's to be drinking it like he need's "dutch courridge" about something! then in his statement he states - "So then I'm on me own. Dunno how long I was hangin' wiv the suits and the stiffs from the Oxford Rovers board, but it seemed like forever. So I'm like, "I wonder where's Steph?" And I goes lookin' for her in the ladies" but in Steph's statment she state's that she has to go looking for him! think it needs to be looked into further as both statements dont seem to match up!

Detective Inspector Wye
I've just been told that a fuller forensics report is expected later this evening or perhaps tomorrow. I imagine it will also include the preliminary post mortem findings. Does anyone have any questions that might relate to these reports?

Sammie
DI Wye. Have you spoken to Mrs Hackett yet? Did she confirm that her husband phoned her at the time he said?

Ahleanna
Another possibility with regard to his shirt - perhaps the killer offered to clean the wine off the front, as being at a charity do with a stain like that just made him totally unpresentable! ;) "Give the shirt here, then, I'll take it to the sink in one of the loos... Sure, I don't mind giving it a quick clean for you, you've had a heckuva day..." the killer might have said whilst casually standing near the flag. Anyway. It appears that Harriet can provide Lloyd with his alibi. Has this been confirmed? Or did he leave her company soon after the end of the tape?

asha
wow

Mike G
Ok. My opinion - we hear about the £1m transfer being strange, because Oxford were 'skint'. So in my opinion, A sparrows man had bribed Oxford money to buy Warren, providing that Taylor played badly and handed the Sparrows the league - match-fixing. Except today, despite Taylor's misses and howlers and the own-goal Oxford managed to win. So someone from the Sparrows was not happy because Taylor (being bribed to play badly) made Oxford win - they're not happy because Taylor hasn't done his job - they kill Taylor. So the possible suspects: Hackett could be a traitor to Oxford, making his own investment in Taylor's match fixing. Lloyd Lovell, a Sparrow himself, may have been behind the match-fixing. What was he doing at an Oxford party anyway? His excuses that it was for 'charity' and that he's a 'footballer' seems poor and suspicious.... It's inconsistent i know in the whole. one question from me - Why was Steph Lovell so keen to go and check on Delilah? Was Delilah walking into the toilets was a pre-meditated fix for her nd Stephanie to meed and talk?

Lee
on the CCTV image who is the man that leans out of the door jus after Delilah Morris Piper stubbles in the room after Warren Taylor?

Suze
Did a cocktail stick from the cheese and pineapple just get stuck in his throat and swell

Detective Inspector Wye
I think you're on to something, Ali and Columbo. This thread of information is new to us. Can anyone give us more information about Kieron Steele?

Jan
Are there any javelin throwers among the suspects?

Tom
The Butler done it

katie
why would warren want to remove his top?

Stu Magoo
How about this for a theory. Tom was tipped off about the murder by the murderer. The phone used for this was Delilah's phone, which was stolen from her. Perhaps this was taken by Lloyd, who she remembers seeing in the toilet? Or Stephanie?

katie
what is on the 'more discovered on warren taylor' link? it wont load and says incorrect address!!!

junos
delilah has a television show. Do we know what sort of a show? Is she an actress and could pretend to be drunk? The plan of the rovers ground shows the only door out is throught the changing room. Is this the only entrance/ exit? There must be another way in and out for emergencies and could have given someone else the chance to slip away. we still need to confirm who the third person in the function room was that Warren refers to as you, you and you two as Fergus is in his office by now. The article about Warrens gives a quote from Fergus which implies he knew Warren before he joined Rovers. Do we have any info on where or when or can we check this with someone?

Sammie
Can someone tell me what else has been discovered on Warren Taylor because I can't access that page

Rosalind
The only two unaccounted for are Lloyd and Delilah.

Roy
I've only just joined this but something I have noticed is that within the first two seconds of CCTV footage, Fergus is seen walking to his office. After the other people have walked through shot the CCTV footage cuts out. Is there any more footage we can see. Maybe from the other end of the corridor. I have a feeling Fergus could possibly have walked out of his office after the cut-off without anyone else knowing (although I like the theory about Warren impaling himself after kicking the football).

Miss Marple
I think that Warren Taylor put his shirt over his head because he was celebrating something, therefore its possible that the person he received the good news from was also his killer. I also believe that Tom knew that Warren was going to be murdered (maybe he overheard something) so staged the photos allowing him to get the exclusive. I think we need to talk to Stephanie, she will know who the third person was.

catherine
do we know who that persons hand is?

miss scarlett
this is fun!

Inspector Weston
I think we're all overlooking something. All or most of the characters seem to have alibis. I can't help but notice, however, that Harriet's videocamera is turned off MARGINALLY before Wozza ends up with a flag in his throat. She pursued him, talking about all the features, he uprooted a corner flag, slipped, fell over, got grass stains to match the wine stains on his shirt, began taking off his shirt, when Harriet, confused at handling a camera and corner-flag at the same time, accidently skewered him through his neck. Easy!

Bowie
Were there any footballs in the goal? Looks to me like someone was daring him to prove he could actually score from the penalty spot then stuck him in the neck as he pulled his shirt over his head to celebrate a goal

Audrey Dawson
Who was the person who went into the office at the beginning of the cctv footage? Wasit Fergus Hackett?

Columbo
What is Stephanies maiden name? Is she or any of the women mentioned in this case related to Kieron Steele (the footballer who died from crack or something)if so this may be a revenge killing by Steele's family

Nick
Could a fan have commited the murder after Warren's poor performance? Possibly out of anger?

shannon
i also have a thought that it could be the reporter that was on the scene. he said police and paramedics would be there shortly then said that the police would not tell him anything. weird!!!

shannon
i think it was either harriet or steph. where was harriet after warrren, fergus and lloyd left the room. where was steph when lloyd went to the toilet looking for her. in the cctv there was a womans havd holding a glass. was it harriet or was it steph

cleaner at the ground
it was the reporter

Gareth
Why when Lloyd went into the ladies and was, well propersitioned by Delilah did he not notice his wife in there? Why did she not stop Delilah? Then he sees her leaving the loos with Delilah. Something does not add up about what happened in the loos. i bet she was never really there. After all Delilah never says in her statement that Stephine comforted her while in the loos but does say Lloyd came in. At the moment I think Stephine did the murder

Detective Inspector Wye
Okay Jacques and Spotter I’ll ask Delilah if she remembers anyone else at the party. Bare with me and I’ll give her a call.

Jim
As he was stabbed can we presume that there should be more blood, or could he have been murdered somewhere else?

Sammie
Why would Oxford Rovers floodlights have been switched on in the middle of July?

Rins
The scene of crime report says that Warren took his shirt off himself. Could Stephanie be having an affair with Warren and things got ugly?

Captain Scarlet
It was colonel mustard in the library with the candlesticks!

Polly
Jacques, the obituary article suggests Warren had a drug problem. Perhaps he was under the influence and indeed imagined a third person? let's wait for the autopsy

Jacques
Indeed Spotter, who is the mysterious third person? Perhaps it is his imagination? hallucinatio, after such a stressful game?

Greatest Inspector
The Coach may have wanted to kill him to get him out of the contract. Taylor was playing really badly and had 12 months left to play, the coach may have thought that this was the only way out?? Mr. Lovell could have done it after finding out Taylor had been having a fling with his wife.

aleonj
Could it be that Delilah called somebody and then flushed the phone down the toilet so the police couldn't ever find out who she called?

Polly
Why, oh, why Delilah? Forgive me Delilah, I just couldn't take any more!

Wetter Cake
I think Harriet Pratt should be interviewed about her lost tapes. She had apparently been filming the club for months. Did she unwittingly capture something that could be used as evidence? Were they stolen?

Sloane
It's Hackett, of course it is... I mean it's obvious, look at that jacket, the jacket of a murderer surely... He puts the G in guilty (or gangsta)

Inspector Morse
Celebration gone wrong? Has anyone checked he is actually dead? Looks like tomato sauce to me!

kingp
Todd what was on the link as it does not load anymore

William Tildesley
Hey im Will and i am going to crack this case.

Russ
Who Is Lloyd Lovell

Russ
Who is the othe person Warren points to on his right before he points to Delilah?

sarahj
Stephanie needs to be interviewed. she is a crucial witness as she over heard the conversation between warren and fergus. fergus seems too calm and cocky in his interview to be telling the truth about the conversation he had with warren.

Andy Wraith
Finding out whether any drugs are present in Taylors blood would be useful, this could explain his poor performance and also subsequent conversations. Is it possible to speak to the groundsman? Surely he/she can provide background as to what happened after the pitch invasion to the time when the body was discovered by the reporter. Clearly the reporter knew the body was already there, the question is how did he know.

pc plod
fergus is having an affair with stephanie (in the toilets - they picked up delilah's phone by accident) that is why lloyd was in the toilets looking for them and found delilah. who is the murderer??? get stephanie in for questioning...

Rob
get the reporter in for an interview, many questions need to be asked, he has to be the main suspect

Russ
Another point Flag poles ( used in murder ) were scattered around on pitch, Tom and Warren were the only ones there by the look of it... or was there more than one involved. Do you have any more info on Tom

Gareth
I would like to find out more from Stephanie. She over heard more of the conversation than either Harriat or Lloyd and then went and looked after Delilah after she had the fight with Warren. Maybe she found out something that may revel the murderer.

Russ
Looks like Warren had been asked or blackmailed into fixing the match.

Russ
Tom. ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ Oxford says "I discovered the body" and police are on their way. Scene of crime report says "Member of public informed police after listening to ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ Oxford" According to Tom Police had already been informed. and as already mentioned Warrens' face was covered, how did Tom Know and why was he there?

Spunty
I did it. Sorry.

George
Catherine, the last person to see Warren alive is the killer

George
This is about throwing the game and the heavy´s have bee sent in to redeem the bet, you lose and you live, otherwise?

Logan
Several questions for clarification. The interview with Delilah states Lloyd saw her in the bathroom doing something with someone. Can we clarify what that was. Also, Stephanie is never questioned. Can we get her questioned as to what happened when she went to check on Delilah, though Mr Lovell claims he saw her. Lastly, time of death will clarify when Warren was killed so we can decide if he returned to the location after he left the party. Was there spilled wine on the shirt he died wearing?

Detective Inspector Wye
Right we’ve got Stephanie and Lloyd is giving an interview as we speak but Tom has gone missing – We have contacted ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ Oxford and they say they are embarrassed by his conduct but they believe that perhaps his hand is being forced and that he is acting this way because he has to? Either way I agree with everyone who has said we need him in for questioning.

Nigel
Do any of the suspects have a connection to Kieren Steele?

Detective Inspector Wye
Chevy - I'll send my officers to look for the phone, where do you want us to look?

My_Lookalike
This guy looks like me

Ziggy
Do we know who Taylor owed money to? I think the murder must have been done in a rage - there is no financial gain to be made killing this washed-up has-been.

Ahleanna
Are there any preliminary reports as to the cause of death? Was it definitely the throat injury or was there any other trauma? Has the time of death been established yet?

Todd
huuuummm and Polly you could be on to something Look what I found http://www.bbc.co.uk/dorset/ content/articles/2005/07/14/oxford_taylor_feature.shtml not sure if the beeb intended for me to find that just yet and WHERE IS TOM DI WYE, do you want to be removed from the case!

kitty cat
what happened to stephanie cause she disappeared off, has she been questioned?

catherine
who was the last person to see warren alive?

Inspector Gadget
It was the butler

arthur taylor
was he mach fixing

Chevy
Maybe the whereabouts of Delilah's mobile will give some more clues???

dj2005
The murderer is Lloyd - it was obvious that Lloyd was annoyed with taylor and was probably doing something to "clear up" what warren had done and was not happy about it.

DETECTIVE_M
Is there no footage of the pitch invasoion?

Spotter
I've noticed in the video When Warren leaves the room he points at three people but we've only really seen two groups - Who is this third person?

Kathy
Whats wrong with the reporter - surely he knows that reporting the name of a dead person is not allowed. I think he deserves the sack! I also think he may have murdered the guy because Warren took the micky out of him for his silly name.

Bowie
While you've got Tom in, ask him how he immediately identified Warren when, from the pictures, you can't see his face at all

meme
y is delilah's interview so sketchy with her often changing the subject

sarahj
I don't think that Deliah can be relied upon as a witness, she sounds as if she has a drink problem... "You haven't got any gin around the place have you?"...! Definitely need to interview the Lovells. And where's Fergus?

Dr who 3
The supporters who booed him.

Polly
Sober Delilah in her interview seems rather different to her drunken alter-ego. She seems to be trying very hard to come across as calm and collected in the interview, is this all an act?

Polly
When can we expect the Socco and autopsy reports

codename rosie metzner
did they take the corpse whith them take photos or keep it there to investigste? very confusing

huuuummm
is it possible that the coach bought Wrren back so he could kll him??

Detective Inspector Wye
Garrett you asked how he died. Don’t forget you can review all the information on the right hand side in the case book – that takes us right back to the beginning of the investigation and there is also a catch-up page with a break down of the information. Any thoughts on what Delilah has said? We can now bring you Fergus Hackett’s statement and the SOC, Andy Hughes I think this shows that this was no accident.

Polly
I'm curious to know why Fergus offered such a lucrative contract to a 'has been' footballer. Did they know each other previously?

Brad
Potential motives: Reporter for murder - to get an exclusive story he staged the photos and committed the murder himself, which would have explained his early presence at the death. Warren (assisted suicide) - he said "and who's goin to stop me" to someone at the party" suggesting something beneficial to the person he was speaking to but more hassle than it was worth - perhaps suicide to gain insurance claim or some in-contract payment to the club or his family

Ali
How was Warren rumoured to be involved in Kieron Steele's death from E? Could he have found out something about who was really responsible? It could have been the 'mess' he wanted to sort out. In any case, Fergus should be questioned further as he clearly knows more.

Wet Cake
What was Tom doing on the pitch after everyone had left and the floodlights had been turned off?

Su
Why do we know so little about the rest of the team involved - surely at a football game and after match party there is more than 2 members of the team in attendance?

Colin D
Delilah.... was she "seeing" Taylor or is it just wishful thinking?

brad
futher questioning of the reporter required: who gave him the information about the death and how did he get to the scene before the police? was he called before the emergency services? When did he take his photos? - it appears to be broad daylight in the photos however the reporter described the the "floodlights had just been turned off" suggesting twilight or darkness! If it was dark how was the body discovered in the centre of the pitch? His photos should also be questioned further: From the video of the party, Taylor had red wine spilt on his shirt, why does this stain not appear in the photos taken? This suggests the photos taken were fake, which is possible due to the indistinctiveness of the shirt and the way it is covering the victims head to hide the identity.

Andy
There are some things that Tom Brewer needs to clear up. The news was announced at 5:00pm but the photos suggest an earlier time of day. The shirt has no signs of the wine stain inflicted on Warren after the game. Blood, but no wine. Thirdly, Brewer claimed to have found the body and phoned in his report before police and paramedics arrived, yet had no difficulty in identifying the victim as Warren Taylor, despite the fact that his face was covered. Were the photos staged, and Warren Taylor subsequently murdered?

Garrett
how did he die

Brend
I reckon Shockwave did it.

Mr Wheely
When did doodah join rovers?

borhan al-hammoud
he committed suicide

Fletch
Ramon Duda (sp?) may have been involved at some point, could there be a link between him and taylors supposed gambling problem??

Andy Hughes
I think it was an accident He had been drinking at the after match party left and gone to the ground to hit a few balls into the net scored put his shirt over his head in mock celebration ran to the corner post stumbled and impaled himself on the flag pole. Case sovled Next !!

Nathan
The drunk woman asks "Do you know who I am?" Seems like a good question to me.

Sammie
Given the article on Warren's Background would it be fair to assume that he attempted to lose the match for reasons linked to his gambling problem?

Detective Inspector Wye
CLUED UP and Polly – You’re right Tom must be questioned further about his conduct yesterday. We have managed to track down Delilah Morris Piper and have her interview for you now. Gollux we will get the others in ASAP.

Paulio B
Its obvious the referee must have done it...

Pradeep
Did the police leave the body on the field overnight? Or were photos taken of the corpse well before it was supposedly 'found'? It seems to be quite bright out in the photos compared to the time of the live interview! I have a feeling the autopsy report will say the time of murder was much earlier than when our roving reporter claims the body was found!

Jim
who saw Warren alive last, when and where?

Neil O'Neil
Is Tom Brewer the murderer. Motives could be that Warren ended his fottball career in the past. COuld be that Tom wants to become a famous reporter and has created his own exclusive. Could be that Warren has nailed Tom's wife....your comments please

James
Perhaps Fergus had to deal with allegations of match fixing - "I've got a mess to clear up..." - are there accusations along this line? Warren used to play for Swindon - maybe he's repaying an old favour.

Gollux
We should know who the people in Harriet's video are, and they should doubtless be questioned.

CLUED UP
Do we know who found the body? was it Tom?

Sammie
Does anyone know what happened during the pitch invasion after the match?

³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ Oxford
Here is an article a member of the sports team has put together about the sad loss – I don’t know whether it helps any? http://www.bbc.co.uk/oxford/sport/2005/07/warren_taylor.shtml

Polly
Tom Brewer allegedly 'found' the body - surely he must be under suspicion?

Detective Inspector Wye
Ziggy – that’s what we need to establish, who are the main suspects? Thankfully we’ve just had a breakthrough. Harriet Pratt. Year Seven, St. Saviour's, heard Tom’s report on the radio and has come forward with a tape she made at the after match party yesterday. Unfortunately ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ Oxford didn’t have the budget to video the match HeathDan and Philip – when you’ve listen to the clues you must ask questions and I’ll try and provide the answers – Is there anyone you want to speak to?

jason
what sort of contract did he have, is the club in finacial trouble troubles. perhaps it solves the clubs problems if he dies

HeathDan
Is there any video of the match?

philip
After you listened to the clues, then what do you do?

Ziggy
Who are the main suspects?

Neil
It definitely sounds like match-rigging. Did Taylor have money trouble?

Spudly
I think more likely we have a problem with the person that transcribed the report he doesn't actually say police are refusing to comment when you listen to the audio. Someone needs to lose their job over this - we need to be accurate if we are going to solve a murder.

Link
The reporter needs to be questioned more closely. According to his report Police and paramedics will be arriving on the scene shortly. This is followed almost immediately by two statements which suggest the Police are already on the scene. Is Tom merely a poor reporter who cannot keep his facts straight or does he know more than he is letting on?

Nicola McGrath
I didn't do it, nobody saw me do it, you can't prove anything

Sterrey
Sounds like blackmail or match rigging? Has Tayor got a family member you can interview to asertain why he was acking unusual.

M
we need a forensic report to determine how his shirt was brought up around his head. was he hit on the head first? wat angle did the post come from?

Detective Inspector Wye
Spudly I will act fast to stamp out this incompetence, I can only apologise. Nicola rest assured you are not a suspect – at the moment. M we are looking at getting the forensic report ASAP. What do people make of the match report?

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