England drowned out by German din
- 15 Jun 06, 10:18 AM
NUREMBERG - England鈥檚 World Cup base near Baden-Baden is equipped with all mod cons 鈥 most crucially the technology to watch their usual television channels from home.
Wayne can keep up with his personal favourite Coronation Street, thus not losing track of which murderer, abuser, poison pen writer, or general all-round bad egg Gail Tilsley鈥檚 got herself involved with in the last fortnight.
If the same facilities are not available at their Nuremberg Hotel and they have to suffer like the rest of us, they can still enjoy the delights of Postman Pat in German, or what appears to be a very cut-price 鈥淲heel Of Fortune鈥 seemingly beamed in from Siberia.
Gripping stuff... in the same way as perhaps nailing your hand to the coffee table might be gripping.
And England鈥檚 squad may have needed the sanctuary of television here late last night as they found themselves stranded at the very heart of a city celebrating Germany鈥檚 dramatic World Cup win against Poland.
On my journey out, Nuremberg was a scene pretty much dominated by England fans singing and enjoying themselves in a busy bar area.
Many streets were deserted, with German fans indoors watching Jurgen Klinsmann鈥檚 team.
On the return trip, all hell had let loose after Oliver Neuville鈥檚 late winner.
Thousands of supporters had taken to the streets. Roads were jammed as car horns blared, sirens sounded and flag-waving fans sat on cars.
In other words, Nuremberg had World Cup fever and had got it bad.
And there, alone outside the team hotel as a cacophony engulfed the city centre, was a member of England鈥檚 security team standing sentry at the main door with a facial expression that was, at best, resigned.
It鈥檚 to be hoped the players rooms were sound-proofed, otherwise there is no way they could have escaped the din.
Now we await the latest news on the increasingly bizarre saga of Wayne鈥檚 foot.
Foot specialist Professor Angus Wallace is in town for a look at the world鈥檚 most famous metatarsal.
What will be the verdict of a brilliant man who once reportedly saved the life of a woman on a plane armed only with a coat-hanger and a cognac?
The latter for sterilisation purposes obviously.
Today has dawned a lot more peacefully, and with a little bit of good news for England from the weather.
Gone is the unbroken blue sky and burning heat that so drained the players in Frankfurt.
It鈥檚 still bright, but there are one or two clouds around to gladden their hearts.
Since when did the English last have to pray for rain in summer?
Oh yes that鈥檚 right鈥.the fifth Ashes test at The Oval last year.
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I find Noddy quite entertaining auf Deutsch, and all the ring tone ads are fascinating..... in fact German ads generally are extremely interesting, and they all seem to have the same over-enthusiastic voice over man - I bet his salary could rival the players!
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So this is todays excuse..the hotel was noisy.
I would sleep on a park bench with the Bild newspaper as a duvet cover for the opportunity of pulling on an England shirt. I hope its 5 star performance this afternoon.
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I'm sure that the team have had enough time acclimatise to the weather; after all they've had 90 minutes of it against Paraguay and have been training in these conditions ever since.
Friends, Drinkers, Countrymen! Let us not become a nation of rain dancers! We can get a result today with good old fashioned hard work and clinical finishing, not a downpour.
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Ha! England will be praying for monsoon season in Australia in the winter, not just one test worth....!
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if drinking nothing but lucozade sport could shave a tenth of a second of my 100m time would it make any difference to me? no. would it make any difference to asafa powell? it could be the difference between gold and no medal.
likewise, a good night's kip doesn't make much difference to me as i lumber around the pitch but it could be the difference between john terry just missing a tackle or blocking a certain goal.
hopefully the margins for error won't be so slight against T&T, but it's exactly those tiny slip-ups that the likes of Brazil will punish you for.
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I don't know if this has been mentioned yet but the game is on ITV tonight. Now I'm not superstitious but we do tend to lose when games are shown on the other side, that's the excuse i've given already to my Welsh girlfriend just in case we do have a stinker tonight.
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Apart from that ITV coverage is always the brown stuff , I hate the add breaks and David Pleat does my pan in .
Don't normally follow England (I'm from Northern Ireland ..who said 1 nil?) but I hope and think they will do it this time
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I can't ever remember an England side performing up to their ability in heat over 25 C. I think this is underestimated by the pundits.
Local forecast for Nuernberg today says 28 and humid.
That said, England definitely have the class to win, so can they match T&T on teamwork and on pride?
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No need for the ashes comment, australia had to pray for rain in the third test which saved them from defeat!
German fans might be celebrating now, but a 91st winner may have covered up another unconvincing defensive performance against a poor poland side, but only time will tell who will be shouting the loudest, and I am afraid German people after watching you over the last year, it wont be you.
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There are some quality viewing moments to be had on german TV. Premium calling lines ads on after about 8pm. There is an ad with someones granny on wearing not very much (which is bizarre to say the least).
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It can't just be me who has noticed that Sven is a Sunday League manager. All he does - to justify his 拢4m a year - is pick the best 11 English players and play them regardless. My old manager Kevin use to do this in the Exeter & District Sunday League Division 5!! It is obvious Lambard and Gerrard can't play in the same team - surely with a forehead that big, 5 years in charge and 拢20m quid later, he would have noticed this. Look at Sir Alf Ramsey, he picked the best TEAM, not the best players!! There is a world of difference.
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It will be 6pm local time when England takes the field. Surely it won't be that hot then?
God help us when we play in South Africa in 2010 (although it will be winter there in June) and then Brazil in 2014...
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Andy,
Sorry fella, but you wrote: "a 91st winner may have covered up another unconvincing defensive performance against a poor poland side"
Erm.... 1-0 = Defensively not letting anything in..... so your point is?
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England should win this one comfortably. T & T are heavily reliant on Yorke and it shows how limited the team is if he is operating just in front of the back 4! They had a huge slice of luck, along with good keeping from Hislop in drawing with Sweden and it's difficult to see any other result than an England win, even if Rooney doesn't play.
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I agree with those comments that say England never perform well in the heat and unfortunately for them it is broiling again today. Come 6 o'clock it is still going to be 28 or so- I got pretty badly burned watching France against Switzerland on Tuesday night.
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As a Scot I'll be quietly happy to see England stuffed, however it is incredibly unlikely... T & T are a far smaller nation with much less footballing talent to choose a squad from, and I'm pretty sure they don't always get a perfect night's sleep, don't always have every player match fit and don't enjoy playing when the weather is a bit too sunny either. (yes, Trinidad and Tobago is a hot place, but not hot enough to have had any recent droughts though I believe).
Doesn't anyone get a bit tired hearing about all the supposed problems the England team have; they have easily the best available team and should win, if they don't it's their own fault - NOT because of the weather (that's the same for both teams) and not because one player is missing (it's not the rugby team we're talking about!)
Does any one know if the T & T team slept well ?
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Poland attempted to put some resistance but unfortunately they lost to Germany. Now in Group A, Germany has 6 and Poland will not be able to go to the next rounds. It seemed that most of Miami were looking at their TV Sets. Let's see what happens with Ecuador VS Costa Rica, England VS Trinidad & Tobago, Sweden VS Paraguay.
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T&T are not under any pressure, because nobody expects anything, so I'm sure they slept well - unless they were partying!
Most of the England players are used to playing in high pressure matches where there'll be no excuse if they don't both win and perform well, so they should sleep well also.
I wouldn't be surprised to see T&T put on another good show - I cetainly don't want to see them get a stuffing like Ukraine did - but it would be nice for England to win, even if they only sneak another 1 - 0. It really is the result that matters at this stage, and if the ball ricochets in off Owens backside, that'll do!
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I was at the England vs Paraguay game, and I can confirm it was suffocatlingly hot, we were in the stadium, and in the shade, and we were dripping, so please, leave the lads alone, they played well considering they were not allowed to take on water.... COME ON ENGLAND
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I was at the England vs Paraguay game, and I can confirm it was suffocatlingly hot, we were in the stadium, and in the shade, and we were dripping, so please, leave the lads alone, they played well considering they were not allowed to take on water.... COME ON ENGLAND
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You guys are grouse this is the best chat room I have seen. you know so much about the beautiful game but it is all england give me a break the Aussies will win the ashes back we will beat England at rugby again on saturday and we will beat Brazil on Monday and Pompey will be mid table next season prior to winning the league in 2008 and we will meet England in the final of the world cup
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You guys are grouse this is the best chat room I have seen. you know so much about the beautiful game but it is all england give me a break the Aussies will win the ashes back we will beat England at rugby again on saturday and we will beat Brazil on Monday and Pompey will be mid table next season prior to winning the league in 2008 and we will meet England in the final of the world cup
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Thanks, 成人快手, for the England team face masks, especially for Sven-Goran Eriksson. It now has a place of honor.
In the middle of my dart board.
One dart for each management miss-step.
Suspect it will look like swiss-cheese by the end of the day . . .
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Why is it that the Scots take such delight in hoping that England will suffer a defeat. What a sour bunch of no-hopers, losers and down-right miserable b*s
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I've been going through the entries in the blog, and have been reading with interest our Celtic friends' comments on the England bias etc. I am English through and through, but on the whole, I fully agree with what our Scottish, Welsh and Irish contigent are saying. Are any other English supporters fed up of the constant TV commentary references to 1966,Rooney's poorly foot, and the English mentality that all we can say to the Germans is "2 world wars and 1 world cup"?
My wife is American, and is watching her first world cup with saturation coverage, and she is fully enjoying it, but has commented to me plenty of times since she came to live in England, about the English obsession with the war and 1966. Well, other nations, like the US, Germany etc have moved on from WW2. England seems unwilling to do so. As my wife and I have debated, maybe it's down to the fact that England have done naff all since '66. We have no God given right to success. So let us England fans unite, inspire our side, and hopefully we will have a present day success to enjoy and revel in. But please, can we enjoy the world cup without the media spoiling things for all of us by their arrogant obsession with how "great" we are?
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For last night's match between Germany and Poland, my wife and I pressed our red button, turned the TV commentary off, and changed it to Radio 5 Live instead, while keeping the TV pictures. We actually enjoyed the game much better. There is also the option to turn off all commentary, and just have the stadium sound. Have any other supporters tried changing the commentary during 成人快手 coverage, and if so, do you prefer the TV pictures with TV sound, or Radio 5 Live sound?
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I would agree with Yorkie Kit Kat Boy regarding the media bias. It is always over the top, boring and totally biased, but I still can't accept the non-support of the other UK nations. My wife is German, and believe it or not I have been supporting the Germans in this campaign, and hoping for German-England match later in the tournament
Great tournament, help and organisation from the Germans this year as well
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I was watching "Goal", the film of the 1966 World Cup, the other day. The one thing that I noticed above everything else was the complete absence of the war from the commentary and from the crowds at the matches. How have we become more pre-occupied with it over the years?
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German fans might be celebrating now, but a 91st winner may have covered up another unconvincing defensive performance against a poor poland side
I thought they did rather well defensively. They were worse than a Sunday League side against Costa Rica, but last night Lehmann had very little to do. Fantastic last-ditch tackles by Mertesacker and Metzelder too. Never thought I'd say that!
only time will tell who will be shouting the loudest, and I am afraid German people after watching you over the last year, it wont be you.
Do you begrudge the hosts celebrating their team? As a German, having made the UK my home some 12 years ago, I still can't get over how everything the Germans do is met by either ridicule or outright hostility by the British public - well, media mainly. Usually they're called boring and mechanical (or panzers), and now they're playing cavalier football because they have a very mediocre generation of defenders, people take the mick out of their (admittedly hopeless) defence.
I'm actually supporting them more whole-heartedly this year because at last they play positive football and make the most of the occasion. And they're actually a nicer bunch of guys for it, partly due to a change of culture under Klinsmann/Loew/Bierhoff).
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Ah, Wee George, not to worry, I'm not wailing or crying at all, I'm celebrating being in the WC, and wondering why the Scots never support us (incidentally, not only in the WC, but in every other game we ever play)
You're right, the media is biased, only a few people can really support such a narrow view, but that's the media that the majority buy into
Not doubt the French aren't very surprised that you're not supporting them, after all, you have never really delivered when they've asked you before
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I have a grandfather from Trini and have been enjoying the Trini side holding of mighty England... I'm sure the side doesn't enjoy luxury accomodation...
As for Postman Pat in German, I've actually looked at it on the internet (no, I'm not a small child, nor senile) as it is so simple to understand that it is good as a learning aid for basic German.
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appreciate the candor Martin, and you're right, it is understandable that the commercial channels pander to the view point of the majority, as they have the needs of their sponsors to consider, and as England has 10 x as many potential punters the bias naturally will bend towards them, however, it is less acceptable, and the cause of a degree of animosity, when it occurs (with as much regularity as on ITV or Sky - in all sports) on the 成人快手, where it is not a case of the "majority buying in" as all the non-english Brits pay the same licence fee as the English and expect the same level of consideration.
...and I think you'll find that it was the French who didn't deliver for us...
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The thing about the Germans that everyone seems to misunderstand is their attitude towards scoring and winning. The old tactics of reducing the game to a passing training match has disappeared under Klinsmann, but they haven't eschewed the often precarious old German ruse of sitting back once they've scored. There is no point in attacking once you've scored, it has nothing to do with how the game is played, surely people other than the Germans have realised this by now? We can dream about the Brazilians as much as we want to, european football must shine through...
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