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Protecting the taxpayer

  • Nick
  • 19 Nov 07, 06:14 PM

Chancellor Alistair Darling refused repeated invitations in the Commons this afternoon to promise that the taxpayer would get back with interest all the money lent to Northern Rock. He spoke instead of doing what was "best to protect the taxpayer". When it was pointed out to a Treasury spokesman that there was a significant difference between these forms of words journalists were told that there were limits to what could be said in the middle of commercial negotiations over the possible sale of the bank.

In the Commons, shadow chancellor George Osborne suggested that Mr Darling had made an unequivocal promise to get all taxpayers money back when he appeared before the Treasury Select Committee. The record shows that, under pressure of questioning about the scale of loans to Northern Rock, the chancellor said "We fully expect to be able to get that money back" (see below) although it is far from clear whether he was referring to all the money including the interest. When a Tory backbencher pointed out that he'd studiously avoided giving clear guarantees the Chancellor repeated this form of words saying that: "The money leant by the Bank of England is secured against assets, such as mortgages, held by Northern Rock. So we fully expect to get it back."

To this non-expert observer, the gap between what some predict the taxpayer may pay and what the Treasury say is between the pessimists and the optimists. The pessimists assume we'll be lucky to get much of what's been loaned back. The optimists that we could, in theory, get it all back with interest.

Thus it is with my colleague Robert Peston's revelation this morning (which the Tories have picked up with glee and refer to as the story of the "secret Treasury loan"). Robert's calculated that if the Treasury don't get this bit of our money back (I'll leave him to explain what it is) it could cost taxpayers hundreds of millions of pounds. Whitehall sources say that, so far, this facility's only worth 拢20 to 拢30 million. There is, in fact, no contradiction between these two statements.

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Transcript of Alistair Darling before Treasury Select Committee on 25 October ()

Q822 Mr Mudie: What is the total you have agreed with them?

Mr Darling: What we have agreed - and again, Clive Maxwell will set this out in further detail - is that they have that facility but it is secured against collateral. We have also guaranteed various deposits but of course, we fully expect to be able to to get that money back"

Getting out in time

  • Nick
  • 19 Nov 07, 10:30 AM

Are you sure we'll get our money back, Darling?

"His job is on the line". So said the Tory shadow chancellor, George Osborne, with menace today. He will keep reminding Alastair Darling of his pledge in Parliament to ensure that taxpayers get their money after the Northern Rock saga finally comes to an end.

It's a puzzling story this for those of us not steeped in the ways of the City. On the one hand ministers assert that the huge loan given to prop up the Rock - worth 拢900 for each and every one of us (the Lib Dems have helpfully calculated) - is easily covered by 拢100bn of assets. On the other we're told that, in truth, there's nothing like that much money and, besides, the interest on the loan - amounting to at least hundreds of millions of pounds - may not be repaid (my colleague Robert Peston's blog is the place to go for the detail).

Vince Cable of the Lib Dems says the only way to protect our cash is nationalisation. The Tories are backing attempts to find a buyer. Alastair Darling is in a very uncomfortable place:

• unwilling to rule any option in or out for fear of prejudicing the process

• aware that predators are circling waiting to pick the meat off the bones of Northern Rock leaving the government with just the gristle

• aware too that small shareholders, employees and those with the north east's interests at heart are watching too

• and facing warnings not to do another Railtrack - in other words to take decisions that produce legal action down the line

Besides that we now have predictions of the slowest economic growth in 15 years. Gordon got out just in time.

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