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Wednesday 18 May 2011

Verity Murphy | 16:54 UK time, Wednesday, 18 May 2011

Recent polling by Lord Ashcroft suggested that there is a growing rift between the Conservative party and the public on the issue of crime.

Tonight we look at whether the outcry over Ken Clarke's comments about rape and the row over Theresa May's proposals to cut the police budget are the latest signs that the Conservatives are out of touch on law and order.

Also, when David Cameron came into power he adopted a chairman style of leadership, giving his ministers a large dose of autonomy and not micro-managing every department - but is this approach now getting the coalition into difficulties and does he need to tighten his grip?

Plus, we follow the story of a man who has voluntarily had an impaired hand amputated so he can be fitted with a bionic limb and we will be discussing elective amputations with a man who has been fitted with a similar prosthesis.

And we speak to David Brooks, New York Times columnist and author of "The Social Animal", a current hot read in Whitehall.

Comments

  • Comment number 1.

    RAPE (Woman by man)

    I have a gooseberry bush. Every year, moths emerge from the soil to lay eggs on the leaves. These hatch into caterpillars that strip my bush. When plump, the caterpillars drop to the ground, burrow and pupate – to emerge as moths, and do it again. This is all that life exists for – REPRODUCTION.

    The high ape that masquerades as Homo Sapiens, is possessed of the self-same motivation as the moth. To ensure that we reproduce to replacement level, or above, pheromones, and fleshly contours, of the female, give non-verbal signals to the male. To a varying degree, her cerebral function may be hijacked by her ape; then a woman may be moved to wear provocative clothing – provocatively.

    Unfortunately many women have little idea that they are signalling (and NO IDEA AT ALL, just how powerfully) and many men respond without understanding they are ‘receiving’. When the signals are most intense (at ovulation – say) a testosterone-charged male is manipulated at a deep level. It takes herculean ‘higher will’ to prevent an animal response.

    Now we add alcohol – a disinhibitor that saps the will and dulls the conscience. This is the ‘perfect storm’ for rape.

    Who ya gonna blame?

  • Comment number 2.

    DAVE SAYS TRIDENT SHOULD BE 'ELEVATED ABOVE PARTY POLITICS'

    I say elevate governance TOTALLY. Why must any of it be conducted in the gutter?

    In passing: one MP at PMQs referred to Trident as a national 'virility symbol'. EXACTLY. When you turn up at the Globopoly game with a nuke, KUDOS!

    While we keep getting another juvenile wannabe leader, they are going to cling to their 'fallacies'.

  • Comment number 3.

    The Left is dragging everyone off on a language tangent yet again.

    Did Ken use the WRONG WORD did he?

    getting a rape accusation to court is a huge ordeal - very low %

    THAT'S where the definition is important. YMYNMN.

    once AT TRIAL the important issues are, as Ken says, what else went on? grooming? drugging? multiple? violence? these are important issues to differentiate and penalise accordingly.

  • Comment number 4.

    "It takes herculean ‘higher will’ to prevent an animal response."
    BLX


    "the ‘perfect storm’ for rape. "

    Read what Ann Crier has to say about the SUB-CULTURE of under-dressing in Yorks and the knowledge and acceptance that lads nevertheless have as to where THE LINE IS DRAWN.

    "Who ya gonna blame?"
    Dirty old men and men who excuse their imposition of will as "natchrall" (because inside everyman there's a moth trying to get out?). BLX

  • Comment number 5.

    A whole load of people are here :



    do you think they give a flying fig about what the latest hot book in Whitehall is?

    you jelly babies

    "amputated so he can be fitted with a bionic limb"

    You know what I'm thinking ?

    maybe fitted with a rape alert algorithm (erection kill switch) with addition high frequency trading plug-in app to help relieve the rutting ape urge ?

  • Comment number 6.

    This is whats going on in Madrid - looks like more than 2000 ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ

  • Comment number 7.

    First figures from the Census?



    Ah no surprise there then!

  • Comment number 8.

    'And we speak to David Brooks, New York Times columnist and author of "The Social Animal", a current hot read in Whitehall.'

    I just looked up the book on Amazon and it says about the book...

    "The Social Animal by the New York Times columnist, David Brooks, argues that people are driven far more by their unconscious instincts than by rational thought...the world, he concludes, is moving from an "economo-centric" one to a "socio-centric" one...In the Social Animal...(David Brooks) argues that mankind is "living through a revolution in consciousness", in which insights from disciplines such as neuroscience and social psychology are unpicking the hidden wiring of our souls, and in turn undermining our "overly simplistic" self-image as rational, choosing beings..."

    Hang on a minute!...I seem to remember a regular poster on this very blog writing about similar things.

    I wonder if Brooks is just another one of those libertarian anarchists?

    I wonder if he's Jewish?

    (and yes, Iv'e just ordered a copy)

  • Comment number 9.

    HE WASN'T A 'REGULAR POSTER' HE WAS A VERY NAUGHTY BOY (#8)

    If David Brooks had our Dave and our Ken to contend with (to name but two) he would realise that in the Kingdom of the Inwardly Blind, insights count for naught. While the 'universally suffered', dumb electorate, continue to elevate the psychopathically inclined to high office, governance will neither be wise nor concerned to promote wisdom.

    Has the Slut Party been registered yet? A New Porn has broken - has it not?

    A Jew? Nice!

  • Comment number 10.

    #7 Lizzy

    Re link

    As you say, no surprise, but someone else has written extensively about this subject long before this years census (it wasn't me btw).

    Can you remember the explanation that describes the evil ideology behind (veiled)this very deliberate policy?
    Hint: it has nothing to do with the R/Y/B political charade found in Westminster etc.

  • Comment number 11.

    #9 barrie

    I see your silvery keyboard skills are still playing the man and not the ball.

    I wonder how the ideology of a large GROUP (650-ish) of psychopaths would manifest itself into?

  • Comment number 12.

    'Rape' is 'rape'.

    'G.B.H.' is 'G.B.H.'

    'Drug dealing' is 'drug dealing'.

    'Murder' is 'murder'.

    I guess the Left (the greatest modern-day threat to womankind) no longer supports a woman's right to lenient treatment, following a murder that was the product of years of domestic abuse?

    In its treatment of all public discourse (like today's), regarding 'rape', the Left shows its inherently sinister and backwards approach to women's safety. Words truly are more important to them, than the sentiment behind them.

    It's probably champagne all round for today's victory.

  • Comment number 13.

    AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH

    I might be repeating myself: I have heard women can be less harsh than men, as jurors, in rape cases. Almost as if some know the power they wield (and the pathetic weakness of men). In a direct comparison, the (real) women always show greater wisdom. Marge Simpson proves the point.

  • Comment number 14.

    ken clarke: apologies to any women or man upset by this, but it surely is obvious that some rapes ARE worse than others, although equally obviously there are common elements, which is why the rapists get prosecuted and imprisoned.


    as for the recommendations, i reserve judgement.

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  • Comment number 17.

    Why is Newsnight giving air-time to a former Blair spin-doctor John McTernan - the 'Mr Nasty' of Scottish Labour Politics whose advice on negative-campaigning was so anathema to most voters that McTernan's party faced total wipeout in the Holyrood elections? I much preferred the Paxman interview with the robotic bionic arm ......

  • Comment number 18.

    @1 Barrie - We are not moths: we are complex social animals. Extrapolating from the moth to the human makes even less sense than the ratomorphism of behaviourist psychology. Admittedly, humans have primitive urges, but these are normally tempered by the social context. I think the vast majority of men know the difference between display and invitation, drunk or sober. (Though I have no doubt both sexes dishonestly use alcohol as an alibi for all sorts of things.)

    I would agree that although the laws of man can temper the laws of nature, it tries to abolish them at its peril. But there is no need for the Saudi solution, which in my view degrades everyone. Men and women relieve their tensions perfectly harmlessly in a variety of ways; this is widespread in the animal kingdom too.



    Where I do share your viewpoint is on the issue of parenting. We are encouraged to think that there is a "right" to have children, with no thought about the consent or happiness of the poor b**** being conceived. Increasing affluence and (perhaps) the ME culture are leading more parents to neglect their children, collectively weakening our social bonds. This neglect is not necessarily physical, it may "merely" be social. Even the TV in the bedroom is a bad thing if the child it results in lack of parental interaction.

    Then, there is increased pressure from some parents on schools to set more homework, and from an earlier age. We do not have universal hatcheries yet, (as the extension of the boarding school,) but "Don't bother me! - Haven't you got homework to do?" is an all too frequent reprimand, I suspect.

    At the age of nine, the daughter of a friend of mine (a very good father actually I think) once remonstrated with him when he was trying to read the Sunday paper: "Dad - if you didn't want to be bothered, you shouldn't have had children!" (Then exited in a flounce!)

  • Comment number 19.


    The idea that all rapes are the same in terms of severity is preposterous nonsense.

    Not all rapes are the same - mostly because the definitions of 'rape' are so wide-ranging that even the most trivial of acts are nowadays regarded as 'rape'.

  • Comment number 20.

    MY POINT IS FAILING TO MAKE ITSELF (as politicians say) (#18)

    Blimey Sasha - My main moth point was the basic interest of nature - reproduction.
    All else follows.

  • Comment number 21.

    DAVID BROOK'S WIFE SHOULD HAVE WRITTEN THE BOOK

    What a utopian nutter! If he hasn't realised that out politicians ESPECIALLY DAVE are only interested in aspects of mind and behaviour, THE BETTER TO MANIPULATE US, then he should listen to his wife and not try to write books.

    Mr Brooks: Our politicians DO NOT regard us as 'rational minds', they see us as a manipulable mass. This is what Tony's 'Education X3' was devised to do. It was a total success.

  • Comment number 22.

    "The Social Animal" shows the complete and utter futility of combating climate change.

    It seems that, since we little people have, so far, stubbornly refused to modify our daily actions, to minimise their climate 'impacts' [sic], we will continue to do so, in perpetuity. It's in our genes. So there.

  • Comment number 23.

    Best of the night was Jeremy's interview with Dr. Meyer and his robotic arm :o) Amazing. Good points raised by Jeremy with Danny et al.
    :p No prizes for Cooper shouting over Sousby though........

  • Comment number 24.

    @20 Well Barrie, nature or not, I choose more: "laughter learned of friends, and gentleness", for a start! :-)

  • Comment number 25.

    PERVERSITY UNADDRESSED

    As I understand it, puberty has been arriving ever earlier (perhaps due to generations of plenty). Sexually viable bodies are at their most viable for reproduction in the early years - declining with time. It follows the urges, and the 'signals' match the state of the kit.

    This Age of perversity has seen fit to criminalise (in UK and 'advanced' states) natural coupling, and to not only culturally impose delay, but to inveigle women to delay excessively UNTIL THE KIT IS DEGRADED. (Then resorting to gross intervention.)

    And that is just the start of madness. . .

  • Comment number 26.

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  • Comment number 27.

    HOM-SAP IS NOTHING WITHOUT A VEHICLE-APE TO RIDE (#24)

    Come on Sasha. Life would be a lot more refined without all that messy coupling. It is unedifying, unhygienic (on account of juxtaposition) and unbecoming of an aesthetic, sentient life-form. Any decent Creator would cause a woman to become pregnant as an EMOTIONAL RESPONSE* to the closeness of a nurturing male, and his DNA would simply be absorbed through her skin, thence to migrate to the receptive egg. What we are stuck with, is a male-hen-up.

    * I came to this conclusion at around age 10. Parents tell you nothing.

  • Comment number 28.

    EYE WATERING DETAIL (#26 link)

    Oh good grief Lizzy! It was reported he was to be checked for scratches.

    But BITE MARKS?!

    No further questions m'lud.

  • Comment number 29.

    @24 Puberty's a peculiar thing Barrie. Henry VII was conceived when his mother was 12 apparently:



    @27 I agree :-) ( and as the old joke goes, what kind of intelligent town planner puts the pleasure gardens next to the sewage farm? )

    Seriously though, we have a bipolar nature, and we have to try to satisfy both sides. I commend this Dory Previn song "Mythical Kings and Iguanas", if you aren't familiar with it.



  • Comment number 30.

    A POLICEMAN CALLS

    Crime Prevention has been with us for a long time. The friendly Bobby comes and gives a talk. He is inclined to say things like: "Don't leave you valuables on show, it is an invitation to the thief."

    It's a disgrace.

  • Comment number 31.

    I looked up David Brooks on Wiki...and yes he is another neocon with new idea (i.e. an anarchist/Trot) and he is Jewish.

    Yet another Jewish ideologue that will do the rounds in Westminster and Dowing St. along with the others mentioned in the following link (remember Nudge Economics?)...

    /blogs/newsnight/fromthewebteam/2010/12/friday_3_december_2010.html?postId=103809860

    It's, well almost, sinister.

  • Comment number 32.

    I was very impressed with the Tory MP - the Clark defender. Why is she not on the front bench?..and why have I not seen her before? clearly talent going to waste there.

    As for Cooper...oooh scary! I blame that trendy socialists diet plan of the 80s/90s...no red meat; lack of protein. The damage can't be reversed...very sad that.

    Good show tonight.

  • Comment number 33.

    AH - WHATEVER HAPPENED TO NUDGE? (#31)

    I guess it was too subtle for Dave. He now only does ''Groin' and 'Jugular' as favoured by the Brutische Kraftwerk Schule. AND Nudge was way back in December 2010.

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  • Comment number 36.

    plea-bargaining: a way for bad lawyers to make lots of money for not doing their jobs.


    mods, are you going to send #34 back to me? It has been standard practice until now.

  • Comment number 37.

    repost #34 part one:

    Subject:
    Wednesday 18 May 2011

    Posting:
    tonights comments:

    ken clarke: can't politicians mispeak, speak without thinking long and deeply? Are we to find good politicians by those who *constantly* guard their tongues?? We can tell the difference, i think.


    rehabilitation. It is far better to spend money on rehabilitation, than re-accommodation of repeating offenders. It is also cost-effective. But it will require up-front investments.


    - anna soubry was good!

    the proposition passes power to judges, reducing the minimum sentence but still leaving the maximums in place!! The Press can (in a perfect liberal-democracy) report on the miscarriages of justice - unfortunately, they can also stalk individuals, biasing the news reporting towards a prejudgment. But the majority of judgments are accurate, as was mentioned in the news-report, confirmed by asking members of the Public about 'normal' Court judgements. Clarke's move in this legislation is, in part, to hand more power back to the independent Judges, removing some of the control of the Judiciary brought in under NuLabour.

    this is GOOD - it takes legal decisions more out of the hands of the biased politicians, and more in the hands of competent judges. This is a real "anti-centralisation" move, giving more power to judges instead of (potentially) highl-biased politicians. The way the Law is dealt with should not be under the power of the Legislature, the Law is impartial once set. It is the Legislature that think up the Laws, and set guidelines, rather than set the punishments themselves.

    and it is for the Jury to decide guilt. Politicians are a looooong way down the list of people i would trust to manipulate the judgements of the Legal system. At least *this* part of Clarke's legislation makes sense! At least to me!

    ...and i have to say, its also the first Tory legislation of this Parliament that *has* actually made any sense. :/


    --however, i should read the whole Crime Bill! :)


    Labour meh. Tonight's spokeswoman was more interested in party-fighting and back-stabbing a weakened Cabinet member than any serious consideration for the policies! If this is what Labour are like in Opposition, how are we to expect any better from them in Govt?

    although miliband made some good points today, in the commons, about plea-bargaining!

  • Comment number 38.

    repost part two:

    - anna soubry was good!

    the proposition passes power to judges, reducing the minimum sentence but still leaving the maximums in place!! The Press can (in a perfect liberal-democracy) report on the miscarriages of justice - unfortunately, they can also stalk individuals, biasing the news reporting towards a prejudgment. But the majority of judgments are accurate, as was mentioned in the news-report, confirmed by asking members of the Public about 'normal' Court judgements. Clarke's move in this legislation is, in part, to hand more power back to the independent Judges, removing some of the control of the Judiciary brought in under NuLabour.

    this is GOOD - it takes legal decisions more out of the hands of the biased politicians, and more in the hands of competent judges. This is a real "anti-centralisation" move, giving more power to judges instead of (potentially) highly-biased politicians. The way the Law is dealt with should not be under the power of the Legislature, the Law is impartial once set. It is the Legislature that think up the Laws, and set guidelines, rather than set the punishments themselves.

    and it is for the Jury to decide guilt. Politicians are a looooong way down the list of people i would trust to manipulate the judgements of the Legal system. At least *this* part of Clarke's legislation makes sense! At least to me!

    ...and i have to say, its also the first Tory legislation of this Parliament that *has* actually made any sense. :/


    --however, i should read the whole Crime Bill! :)


    Labour meh. Tonight's spokeswoman was more interested in party-fighting and back-stabbing a weakened Cabinet member than any serious consideration for the policies! If this is what Labour are like in Opposition, how are we to expect any better from them in Govt?

    although miliband made some good points today, in the commons, about plea-bargaining.

  • Comment number 39.

    repost of #35: part 1:

    Subject:
    Wednesday 18 May 2011


    prosthesis: spin-off from what? One of those very rare annoying Jeremy butt-ins. Awesome tech though, right? Nice guy. : Glad medical science is helping to reequip the injured, but i can't imagine that anytime soon the technology is going to not only fully replicate the human hand but also *improve* upon it for the local inhabitant. :)

    but surely there are still questions to be asked:

    - does he stll get "phantom limb" effect? Or does the 'prosthetic image' overlay the neurological imprint of the former limb fully? I suspect the latter, or a lessering of the former anyway. Well, that *would* have been good question to have had answered, for those who suffer this. It is wonderful the possibilities Science opens to us. And hope for so many.

  • Comment number 40.

    the writer, brooks: -apparently happiness is defined by how well we are lied to by our politicians!!

    the bankers WERE rational self interested individuals!!! (in the shortest-term). This guy is a [non-PC comment], purest. I could go through his pronouncements sentence by sentence, but his entire style was garbage connected to clichés. Is there a function to get a transcript of NN yet??


    cameron & clarke again: it would be utter political cowardice to fire Clarke as an old fashioned scapegoat* for all the other unpopular members of Camoron's Cabinet (who *are* enthusiastic for the whole ideology of cuts, unlike former UK Chancellor Clarke). EVERYONE will know this tomorrow.

    *

    ken clarke is one of the few popular ministers in your cabinet, David, one of the very few the public largely trust. Losing him, for short-term political gain, would demonstrate incredible short-sightedness for any long-term stability of your Govt.

    no matter how infuriatingly lacking in deference he is to you, sometimes. Sometimes, perhaps he is right.

  • Comment number 41.

    ...bit of a posting spagetti-junction up there, sorry. :) Was nice and clear in the originals.

    a bit that got missed out from #35:

    re banks 'financial crash' "no atms" - the Govt should have a reserve plan to "send in the troops" to occupy and continue going the local branches of the banks in case of full collapse, - as no doubt it has as reserve, plans if various unions go on strike, such as the recently announced plans to replace prison workers with soldiers, should there be a strike amongst them against the proposed cuts. I wonder why the Govt has not ALSO done the same for the Banking industry, could such a lack demonstrate a bias in Govt thinking along Class-lines? No... Surely?!? :'(


    a *trustable* 3rd World economist, who's work for Kerala in India is legendary: i would nominate Amartya Sen for the position in the IMF, had i a vote in that.

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  • Comment number 44.



    aid budget to Pakistan - last year Pakistan had an enormous flood. Some of us might remember.

    ----


    WHY are we continually hearing about how the policies will play between the LibDim/Tory Parties, rather than how the Public feel about the policies. This is "Listening Govt"?? More like Spin-City to me. These policies on Health and Education are deeply unpopular with the PUBLIC - and we DO NOT CARE WHAT THE COALITION THINK THE OTHER PARTY IN THE COALITION WILL THINK!! DO YOU UNDERSTAND YET PLEASE????!!??

    another good show, more to come?



    ..is there a break of dawn in the East?

  • Comment number 45.

    Seen the hapless Yvette Cooper interviewed on Mr. Clarke's travails a few times now.

    In some she was offered soft balls (sorry) and then gleefully applauded as she whacked them to the boundary with a trite one liner (very twitter-friendly).

    In others she was pinned down on lack of substance and discomfited over short term memory loss and hypocrisy.

    Oddly, one was pretty much at the hands of one broadcaster, while others actually tried to find some light amongst the heat.

    For the former it was almost tribal. Maybe due to all the improvements being made. An explanation, if no excuse.

  • Comment number 46.

    ANOTHER GO AT NAILING THE KENNETH CLARKE MYTH

    Of course Clarke is popular (#40) under the Westminster ethos - he belongs there.

    Clarke (ex Health brief) took income from the sale of tobacco, for years. Rarely was he challenged. His righteous claim was not 'obeying orders' more: 'I only supply'.

    Clarke - all on his own - is reason enough to;

    SPOILPARTYGAMES - DISMANTLE WESTMINSTER.

  • Comment number 47.

    Doesn't need any comment does it...

  • Comment number 48.

    DRIVING WHILE PHONING - FUNCTIONING WHILE MANGLING (#47)

    Hi Lizzy. I wonder where the 'tipping point' is? What is the cost of confusions-various due to Manglish speakers inserted in our midst (a) because they will work for less (b) because employers are scared not to?

    UK legislated when we realised phone-driving causes accidents.

    I wouldn't be surprised if the cost of Mangloid-confusion is now greater than the saving. Have we reached the point where it would be a good idea to upgrade our feckless cohort - even if at some cost - to provide ENGLISH WORKERS FOR ENGLISH JOBS? (If we can re-model Arabs – just like that - it must be possible to fix our own??)

    OH TO BE IN ENGLAND NOW THE AGE OF PERVERSITY IS HERE

  • Comment number 49.

    #14 Mindy/#19 Sasha

    The sisterhood will hang me for this, but 'to mineself I must be true'. Are all rapes the same? (This topic will of course, once again raise the ugly spectre of 'Slut' walks'. Why, in god's name (and I am in complete agreement with Janet Street Porter here - gasp!) would any woman want to have the word 'slut' associated proudly with her - even emblazoned on her chest?


    Are all break-ins and thefts the same? Are all crimes the same? Do they carry the same penalty?

    If I give my pin number to someone and my accounts are compromised or raided I am deemed complicit and I may get less recompense and any insurance will be null and void.

    If I leave my car unlocked or if I leave obvious high value goods in full view, and it or they are taken, then I am at best careless and my insurance claim will be downgraded or discarded.

    NO ONE DESERVES to be robbed, attacked, raped. ALL rapes are WRONG.

    BUT most of us, in most areas of our lives, take sensible precautions against something that should not be – bad people who want to take from us that which should only be given; that for which we have worked and saved.

    But being grabbed and dragged into a car/bushes/alleyway or an attacker breaking in and raping someone, is surely a slightly different scenario from someone whose company, privately and in an intimate space you are in and a decision NOT to continue an act is taken. Surely that is akin to leaving your car window open and the laptop on the front seat.

    Living in NYC in the early 80’s, ‘Street Wise’ was the watchword. You might be going to a glamorous dinner but you wore an old raincoat over your gladrags, trainers rather that killer heels and your jewellery was in a haversack until you got there.

    I like to think of myself as a not wholly unattractive woman, and I like my efforts to be appreciated - but I also know what, where and when is appropriate to a situation and in order to protect my person as best I can. What is the issue with a little modesty in public, and keeping the sweetest goods covered up until the time, place and person is right.

    Perhaps we should not expect to have to take reasonable precautions against crimes against the person. They are wrong – but they are out there. So most of us DO! Take care.



    Other......

    The robotic arm - getting right the balance between moral/ethical right and amazing technical advancement. A tough call. Personal choice? Societal decision? Tremendous piece, both on film and in the studio. More please.

    I also thought Anna Soubry earned her place, though of course it raises the debate about politics needing to be 'clever' and 'catchy' over and above the substance. Short sound bite interviews never really do justice to the facts and figures.

    Shame the ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ, as was pointed out by a speaker at Aberdeen Word Festival at the weekend (David Shukman was informative, educative, thought provoking AND entertaining - and shorter than you might think!) feels it MUST, these days, put the 'entertain' part of the charter at the forefront and ahead of Inform and Educate. It seems to have been decided that there can be no educative and informative output unless it entertains or even titillates first.

  • Comment number 50.

    It's been inetresting to compare the meedja's reactions to the Strauss-kahn and Ken Clarke affairs.

    Judging by the foaming-at-the-mouth reactions to Ken's misdemeanor, one only wonders what the reactions would have been like if he had been accused of actually raping someone!

    Strange old world eh!

  • Comment number 51.

    This site's always worth a read...

  • Comment number 52.

    Guns and Butter -

    9/11 An American Coup and The Mysterious Collapse of World Trade Center 7

  • Comment number 53.

    looking at the pictures of the obesity problem in the police association maybe the home office should tighten up the fitness tests?

    given public sector pensions are a ponzi scheme they should be cut back.

    man not rational?

    science tells us what is right and what is wrong? why did no one challenge him on Parmenides 8th hypothesis?

    migrants moving to the uk to take advantage of the benefit system is rational.

    you can only get away with selling false beliefs among the ignorant. Parmenides is not studied otherwise everyone would be able to see where he was coming from and what the consequences of adopting such a mindset would be.

  • Comment number 54.

    A TRIUMPH OF ART OVER SUBSTANCE (#52 link)

    Can you post a precis flicks3? I like my information straight.

  • Comment number 55.

    BRAVO BYT (#49)

    You always sparkle better in a brotherhood setting. The Sisterhood have lost so much - sparkle they don't.

  • Comment number 56.

    When a rape suspect is standing in a court room, do you think he's going to say 'I did it because I am a monster'? Of course not, he is going to come up with some lame excuses to place the onus on the victim - 'oh she is wearing a short skirt/she seduced me first/she is a sl*t'. To take in all that bs talk at face value says more about your naivety than the supposedly breakdown in sisterhood. Rock on sisters!!

  • Comment number 57.

    "Living in NYC in the early 80’s, ... going to a glamorous dinner ... your jewellery was in a haversack until you got there."

    Sounds like a fun way to spend the 80s.

    "You always sparkle better "

    when the Rock is real.

    How true. Bergamot or Lapsang Souchong?

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