Friday 18 February 2011
Bahraini security forces have opened fire on anti-government protesters, witnesses and opposition activists say.
The protesters were fired on after they had streamed into the centre of the capital from the funerals of protesters killed in a security crackdown earlier this week.
The ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ's Allan Little in Manama will be giving us the latest on the events and mood there.
Then our correspondent Tim Whewell - who is still in Egypt - will be giving us his assessment of events both there and elsewhere in North Africa and the Middle East.
We have a film from Paul Mason about Portugal's continued economic difficulties, and Mishal will be asking President of the European Commission Jose Manuel Barroso about the continent's economic woes.
And Stephen Smith meets US pop star Usher who is in London with his New Look Foundation. Now in its tenth year, the foundation mentors young people to use their talents to become global corporate and community leaders.Ìý
Do join Mishal Husain for all that and more at 10.30pm on ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ Two.
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At 18th Feb 2011, MrDUFF wrote:Re Trouble N Strife in The Middle East (no not the wife)
I have been told Time and Time again that Democracy is not Perfect but it's the Best weve got
The People in The Mid East have A long Hard Road Ahead
then they will end up with Similer Plonkers that we have.
This I Feel is A Great Golden Opportunity for Us 2 Off load our 650 Wasters
The People of Middle East can have them .. Or am I being 2 cruel 2 The
Middle East
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At 18th Feb 2011, barriesingleton wrote:GLOBOPOLY FOR DUMMIES
It is as if their leaders have declared war on an imaginary threat and will stop at nothing to 'protect the people'. They will probably bring in open ended detention without trial, and put an incongruous military presence at the airport. Then someone will give a speech about WMD, freedom and small furry animals, and they will invade a helpless country that owns stuff they like.
Britain will be first to recognise the legitimacy of victor.
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Comment number 3.
At 18th Feb 2011, Mistress76uk wrote:Ahem!
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At 18th Feb 2011, Mistress76uk wrote:...and Chris Patten is going to be the new ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ Chairman
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At 18th Feb 2011, jauntycyclist wrote:i think the west will have its own riots when the truth about 9/11 comes out?
funny how on 9/11 and 7/7 there were the exact same exercises relating to the exact same events? coincidence?
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At 18th Feb 2011, barriesingleton wrote:HOW DO YOU SAY 'JOBSA GOOD'N' IN TEXAN? (#5)
As I posted recently, Jaunty, I think it was a 'temporary filling' from the outset. It would appear that the States are preparing for the riots (a shift from War on Terror to War on Dissidents). I doubt we are ready for anything . . .
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At 18th Feb 2011, Uncle Munkle wrote:well they're "gearing up" against Cyber-Threats and abandoning the EU human rights legislation Baz #6 its seems like something is being gotten ready
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At 18th Feb 2011, MrDUFF wrote:Postings 5 6 & 7 With The PlanIt on Line We All Know now what/Where is going On (if you keep your head on)
Do We Need A Big Brother .. Some of Us Do
Its All Gone Wrong .. No It Isnt I'm Listening 2 Pete Tong
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Comment number 9.
At 18th Feb 2011, brossen99 wrote:/blogs/paulhudson/2011/02/can-the-government-be-trusted.shtml
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At 18th Feb 2011, jauntycyclist wrote:6
man had brains once that allowed them to perfectly cut basalt. the guy makes a couple of mistakes but brings in some interesting questions.
Lost Cities of South America & the Pacific - MegalithOmania
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At 18th Feb 2011, MrDUFF wrote:9 Interesting Comments and Artic le
The Next Iceage bothers me more than Global Warning/Warming
However if Warming Speeds up The Next Ice Age Keep Your Ears On
The Equator Needs 2 Be Put back as The Garden of Eden
Think Frank Boughf
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Comment number 12.
At 18th Feb 2011, barriesingleton wrote:PAY DIRT JAUNTY
Is that the hall that is set back from the high street at the lower end?
I upset Graham Hancock with a too-valid question, in there.
von Daniken's film Chariots of the Gods spoke for itself all those years ago.
Interesting times. Now I shall be up late again.
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Comment number 13.
At 18th Feb 2011, MrDUFF wrote:The Pheasants are Revolting (tell me about it)
Knowing The Nature of The Beastie
The attack on CBS/CNN ? Female Reporter tells you something
The young Peverse Idiot down in Cornwall tells you the same sort of thing
Is an Expensive Justice System/Hotell The Cure
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Comment number 14.
At 18th Feb 2011, MrDUFF wrote:Portugal is not as Deep in the Do Do as we are
Usher's Caper Deserve's 2 Work
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Comment number 15.
At 18th Feb 2011, MrDUFF wrote:Von DaniKEN thats A Blast from the Past, narrated by The Enterprising Fella
I didnt Believe A word .. Definatly Maybe
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Comment number 16.
At 19th Feb 2011, ecolizzy wrote:No wonder they have not a care in the world!
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Comment number 17.
At 19th Feb 2011, MrDUFF wrote:16 Quite Quick Quit Quiet SSH ssh Don't Tell Anybody
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Comment number 18.
At 19th Feb 2011, MrDUFF wrote:Judge Jules Rules ok iSH
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Comment number 19.
At 19th Feb 2011, JunkkMale wrote:'Bahraini security forces have opened fire on anti-government protesters, witnesses and opposition activists say.
From the footage I watched just now on SKY, I think what some folk say has rather been borne out.
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Comment number 20.
At 19th Feb 2011, worcesterjim wrote:Chris Patten? How is he related to the Wall Street Mafia that runs Britain? I hope someone consulted the US Embassy staff about this....like they did over who should be our foreign secretary and defence minister!
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Comment number 21.
At 19th Feb 2011, barriesingleton wrote:A PAAAAAAAAAAY SLIP? (#16)
My horror, is of Lady Bracknell magnitude Lizzy.
I thought notice of such exulted 'remuneration' would be transmitted in some elevated manner, beyond my ken.
Marr does a reasonable job, though I can't say the same for Paxman. But the pay is a consequence of celebrity, not commensurate with delivery.
Take Parkinson - a gauche, self-hugger, who over-employed the 'erudite stumble' (now done to death by Laurie Taylor - 'Material World'). He got paid silly amounts, also!.
In the Kingdom of the Juvenile, the pushy kid gets the dinner money.
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Comment number 22.
At 19th Feb 2011, MrDUFF wrote:Is the Mad Colonel being knocked off his perch
Some say he has done A lot for his? country
How about The People of Lockerbie
And Pan Am
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Comment number 23.
At 19th Feb 2011, MrDUFF wrote:Barclays Right or Wrong
Tax Dodging/Bodging .. Bodgit & Scarper
£3.2 Billion on Wages .. £113 on Tax
We Have Bin Ripped of By The Banks We Also Have Bin Ripped Off By Politicians
How do You Rip Them Off .. Start Your Own Bank Become Your Own Politician
Beat the Bean Counters Count Your Own Beans
Easy Init
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Comment number 24.
At 19th Feb 2011, worcesterjim wrote:21 Laurie Taylor presents that antidote to common sense real world thinking called "Thinking Aloud". ("Swearing under One`s Breath" more like!)
As a person with a lot of coal face experience of society I warn you against thinking along his fashionable PC lines...whatever they currently are.
He always reminds me of a trendy Jesuit I used to know...and dislike intensely...more Blair than care!
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At 19th Feb 2011, brossen99 wrote:Complain about this comment (Comment number 25)
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At 19th Feb 2011, barriesingleton wrote:ARE JOB CENTRES POSTING FOR CHAIN-LINK FENCE ERECTORS YET? (#25)
What's the English for 'FEMA camp' Bro?
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Comment number 27.
At 19th Feb 2011, worcesterjim wrote:25 Thanks brossen...can`t see these folks being invited on to NN or QT any time soon....not before half the population of North Africa are safely here in Britain under the close protection of Amnesty International/Ultranew New Labour/Red Cross/Liberty/³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ et al...(while we head for sanctuary in open boats?).
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At 19th Feb 2011, stevie wrote:Gaddaffi turns on his people and guns them down in the streets, he is a friend of the West now and not the evil tyrant he was painted even though his henchmen gunned down PC Fletcher so we forgive and welcome him back into the tent....but his hands are clean over Lockerbie, ask some of the victims relatives, ask why the gates were forced at Heathrow, ask about the warnings on message boards it Swedish embassies, and ask the CIA to release files on Lockerbie to what REALLY happened but don't pick on Gaddaffi, he is now about to trash his reputation by butchering his own people without any help from the West....
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Comment number 29.
At 19th Feb 2011, barriesingleton wrote:AND ANOTHER THING (#28)
Ask how it was possible for an American warship to shoot down that Iranian airliner, for which Lockerbie was such a tempting quid pro quo.
Then collate ALL the 9/11 truth-movement adherents, and their data (you'll need a big memory) for good measure.
You could even look at the Sun's ELECTRICAL influence on Earth-climate - way beyond anything man can do with CO2.
Then ask why our media don't get to grips with fundamentals.
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Comment number 30.
At 19th Feb 2011, brossen99 wrote:barrie #26
All the circumstantial evidence suggests that instead of opting for the FEMA concentration camp option like in the US, the UK has been long planning to go down the Warsaw style ghetto line. Perhaps particularly heavy traffic calming is the groundwork for aforementioned ghetto's, which despite the fact that all alleged environmentalists knew it doubled local traffic pollution, groups like FoE and the Green Party pushed hard for traffic calming. Similarly the the police, who's true reason for pushing traffic calming was probably that it made it easier for them to take back streets taken over by any potential rioters.
Humps in the road are ideal for stopping any vehicle gaining enough speed to break riot police lines, or to smash through and potential future gates. I have noticed that areas likely to be the site of gates like the junction into a major road have mega humps just to make doubly sure. Increased crime rates since the introduction of traffic calming have been used as the pretext to close off back alleys and fit them with high fences and gates. Short cut footpaths are also being closed on the same principle, and as crime rate increases due to the spending cuts perhaps the idea of fully gated communities will floated in order to " protect " the people inside. Of course the opposite is probably true, and with the welfare reforms more unemployed people will be socially engineered into living in certain heavily traffic calmed areas.
Its all a pretty neat little plan really, just what the eco-fascists ordered in order to achieve their aim of reducing the UK population to at most half its current level. No need for concentration camps, just freeze and starve people to death in their ( expensively rented from the corporates ) homes. Disposing of all the dead bodies was practiced during the 2001 FMD epidemic, all the big rendering plants ready to roll at a moments notice. Then there is the possibility of contaminating the water in specific areas for mass killing, this has probably been tested in theory as a friend of mine lost all her tropical fish in less than a hour when she changed the water once, never had any problem with it before.
The thing is that you can't trust anyone in authority anymore, perhaps especially overpaid executives like council officers or even anyone in a suit. One factor that bucks the trend is the government are not going forward with the " forced work for your dole " idea being floated by the Corporate Nazi's. It has to be remembered that the whole object of Nazi WW2 ghetto's and concentration camps were to provide slave labour, the extermination factor was secondary in the first instance just confined to disabled and others not considered fit for productive work. However, the proposed welfare reforms wont work on reducing the number of people unemployed so work for your dole will probably be back on the agenda in future. The proposed welfare reforms do appease the eco-fascist ideology to get rid of the " defectives " and I suspect that many of the moderately disabled and chronically sick will be frozen and starved to death. However, the severely disabled should be OK as it will be highly profitable for the corporates to battery farm them in private care homes.
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Comment number 31.
At 19th Feb 2011, barriesingleton wrote:BILLY THE SPUD SAYS THE WORLD IS WATCHING THE UNREST
Oh how I wish it would take a close look at Billy, Dave, George et al, and tell them to stop abusing (the intelligence) of their people. We the people are fed up with being hit - hit with lies, spin, doublespeak, obfuscation and claptrap. But Westminster will not change till we
SPOILPARTYGAMES
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Comment number 32.
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Comment number 33.
At 19th Feb 2011, worcesterjim wrote:Brossen I don`t think I am any sort of fascist but I still think we have far too many people in Britain...and our inability to control immigration frightens me.Does that make me a fascist?
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Comment number 34.
At 19th Feb 2011, jauntycyclist wrote:i get the sense there is a growing sense of injustice if not anger over unemployment. that brits are being marginalised out of work into agency lifestyles as multinationals take over uk firms that then farm the work out to china, east europe or bring their own migrants in.
in a zero sum game you can't get rich without making others poor. the uk is getting poor. so who is getting rich? and why?
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Comment number 35.
At 19th Feb 2011, brossen99 wrote:#33 jim
Definitely not !
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Comment number 36.
At 19th Feb 2011, worcesterjim wrote:I have an idea...let`s get Dave and IDS touring the sink estates and the foreign occupied slums of Britain taking their tidings of good joy to the workshy layabouts themselves in situ?
And explaining what a mess said layabouts have made of Britain by forcing us to import millions of essential workers like taxi drivers and pickpockets and pole dancers and pregnant women and elderly relatives and people with TB and AIDS ...because none of us scheming evil chavs would fill the bill.
Maybe then we shall feel so ashamed of ourselves that we will all return to take the thousands of vacancies that are crying out to be filled so that Britain can once again hold its head up as the cheapest nastiest dirtiest most overcrowded dead-beat post-industrial dump in western Europe!
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Comment number 37.
At 19th Feb 2011, ecolizzy wrote:#36 Ha,ha, don't forget this lot are on their way too
Along with many others from North Africa and the Middle East, unrest in that region, will mean more immigrants for us. : (
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Comment number 38.
At 19th Feb 2011, rouser wrote:why are the norh african dictators shooting thier own people,is it to
save their dignity, or to give themselves time gather their spoils and
to arange a safe haven,either way some countries will welcome them.
with open arms,they might even be able to joina club or be asked to tea
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Comment number 39.
At 20th Feb 2011, barriesingleton wrote:GOING INTO COALITION WITH NICK
I think we can swing the AV referendum Nick's way and do ourselves a favour.
If Nick arranges for AV voting slips to have a tick-box for ‘OPT OUT’, this will enfranchise all the voters who currently opt out by staying at home, but who are wickedly vilified as indolent, for their entirely principled stand.
Voters who tick the OPT OUT box, should not tick any other. All opt outs to be counted and announced, as with actual votes.
I am sure Nick will agree with me that this facility will advance the attractiveness of AV in the mind of the electorate, and further convinced he will see that it brings us nearer to full democracy (while edging out Dave).
Nick feels AV will sharpen candidate wits; 'OPT OUT' WILL PUT A ROCKET 'IN THEIR POCKET'!
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Comment number 40.
At 20th Feb 2011, ecolizzy wrote:After the prisoners demand for the right to vote, and compensation, we come to this....
I hope these people all keep clamouring for their rights, it just might put an end to the ruddy 'uman rites act!
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Comment number 41.
At 20th Feb 2011, ecolizzy wrote:#39 All opt outs to be counted and announced, as with actual votes.
...but Barrie, we'd end up with no one in Parliament..... ah, oh I see! ; )
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Comment number 42.
At 20th Feb 2011, MrDUFF wrote:Sarah B has Proclaimed her hubbys name as Miss Understood
Could have told her that 10 years ago
What I can't understand is why quite A Few people still Believe in nulabour
Might be summit 2 do with 2 Million Plus Quangofied Non Jobs
or I'm Allright Jack, nulabour Bribe's with other Peoples Borrowed Money
Suits Me Sir
It doesn't Suit Me, It Doesn't Fit
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Comment number 43.
At 20th Feb 2011, MrDUFF wrote:Clocked A.M.'s London's dove from above
50 years from now LOndon will stretch from Barking 2 Bodmin
Jam made from Traffic You Aint Seen Nothin Yet
Who's Barking .. You Are
Oh I Do Like 2 B Beside The SeeSide I Do Like 2 B Beside A Cup O T
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Comment number 44.
At 20th Feb 2011, MrDUFF wrote:Ross Kemp going Walkabout again, Showing us more of how the other half live and Die
The Nasty British it's All our Fault
The Rest of The World should Sue Us,
Blair N Brown (sorry the 2 Misses) can pay for it
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Comment number 45.
At 20th Feb 2011, MrDUFF wrote:38 Most DictatErs/War Criminals and Their "Clean" Money etc End Up Over Here
Human Rights/Wrongs .. Pay Lawyers 2 have all sins Back Handed Away
How Clean is Your Whistle
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Comment number 46.
At 20th Feb 2011, MrDUFF wrote:Fellow Bloggers I wouldnt put any Faith or Money on Foxy News
eds under the Bed/Which Hunt/Spamish InquZitOn/Comfy Chair
ed sillyband inquzits Spamish Which's under the bed from A Comfy Chair
Summit Like That
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Comment number 47.
At 20th Feb 2011, JunkkMale wrote:'9. At 10:11pm on 18 Feb 2011, brossen99 wrote:
/blogs/paulhudson/2011/02/can-the-government-be-trusted.shtml%27
Answers to such questions being....?
And odd to have such a question (of a few regarding energy and emissions) in such a niche quarter. We are in the realms of bazillions, with targets and bonusses often more top of mind that actually delivering power or reducing GHGs.
One is sure the MSM will be all over this in due course.
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Comment number 48.
At 20th Feb 2011, JunkkMale wrote:Meanwhile.....
'However, despite being commissioned in 2005 and scheduled for publication in 2007, the research has not been released to the public. '
'Watertight oversight' (c )Black, R, et Al, in action?
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Comment number 49.
At 20th Feb 2011, MrDUFF wrote:The Cameronian And The Clegg cc brit/*hit idiots
2 Months Or So IN2 The Job
And The Dummies Are Throwing Their Toys Out of The Pram
Give Them A Bloody Chance
NuLabour have Leftie More Than A Bloody Mess
You Try Cleaning It Up
nulabour *hit Smells Worse than any *Hit I have come aCross
My Pals and I Have Been in Some *HIT (worldWide *HIT)
Trust Me I'm Not A Politician or A Lawyer
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At 20th Feb 2011, MrDUFF wrote:AM now, thats a non starter
A nulabour politician off blaming everthing but themselves for the last 13 Debt Grabing years YAWN
Blame Me give Sue A Bell
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Comment number 51.
At 20th Feb 2011, JunkkMale wrote:'48. At 08:50am on 20 Feb 2011, you wrote:
Meanwhile.....'
Hey, infrequent sofa guest Ken brought it up on Andrew Marr just now. Mind you, as the papers he could cite in the review were limited (a few front covers not serving the narrative), I guess he had to.
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Comment number 52.
At 20th Feb 2011, MrDUFF wrote:ken mayor livInstone bust
ken and "partner" have trouble changing The Clock Back/Forward OH Dear
Since 2 I have allways known 2 Switch/Change/Move Clock Forward/back
At Bedtime, All Members of Household Fully Briefed/Debriefed of Change
It's Called Comms/Comunication Between Departments/Debts
Eazy Init
I Do Feel Sorry For Londoners, D.S. Solution Move Closer 2 Bow Bells
Have New Labour Introduced Bell Tax Yet
Tax Belle She Deserves It
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Comment number 53.
At 20th Feb 2011, MrDUFF wrote:The BIG Dozy Questions
Cure for Peedoz's .. There is None
Human Right Way is Remove Said Useless Article as Far Away As Possible From Children For Life
How Eazy is Eazy it's Eazy
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Comment number 54.
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Comment number 55.
At 20th Feb 2011, Mistress76uk wrote:I just can't even begin....
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Comment number 56.
At 20th Feb 2011, barriesingleton wrote:KEEP ‘EM COMING LIZZY (#40 and 41)
Only the centre ground of human psychology is truly conducive to agreeable life. Remember JJ's bell curves? Each of us falls on a whole bunch of bell curves, anywhere (respectively) from ONE EXTREME TO THE OTHER. Certain extremes - music, art, reciting 100 years of football results, get admiration - other extremes don't . . .
In small groups, wisdom once stood a chance to control the wildly aberrant - in large anonymous groups, cleverness (having ousted wisdom) has not a hope in Hell. AND THE AGE OF PERVERSITY IS COMPOUNDING THE PROBLEM. Nuff sed.
No cigar Lizzy. We COULD end up with no parliament (like Belgium who seem OK) but if we got our act together, we could take the opportunity to SPOILPARTYGAMES and bring in something much nearer to democracy, with LOCALLY SOURCED, locally accountable, candidates of integrity.
'AV FOR OPT OUT' - Tell Nick.
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Comment number 57.
At 20th Feb 2011, kashibeyaz wrote:#55; why do you bother reading this surreal detritus?
It only gets you angry - but don't worry - most of it is made-up piffle to scare the likes of you/confirm your bigotry.
Have a nice cuppa tea and calm down.
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At 20th Feb 2011, kashibeyaz wrote:#56; barriesingleton I get it now; the big society, but smaller!
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At 20th Feb 2011, MrDUFF wrote:Country File I Won't Mention Abingdon or The 101 Club If You Don't
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Comment number 60.
At 20th Feb 2011, worcesterjim wrote:GET ON YOUR JAUNTY BIKE VOTE DUFF and `AV A BANANA REPUBLIC
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Comment number 61.
At 20th Feb 2011, barriesingleton wrote:AS DUFF WOULD HAVE IT: 'IQ YOU Q - EVERYBODY LOVES B AND Q' (#58)
You might say that Kashi. I couldn't possibly comment.
I have only done the outline. You, in contrast, have seen the whole picture!
AV for OPT OUT - Tell Nick
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Comment number 62.
At 20th Feb 2011, MrDUFF wrote:60 & 61 Oap's
I Refer You 2 B.C. And His Theory RE MP's
or Speak 2 Nanna nose best
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Comment number 63.
At 20th Feb 2011, kashibeyaz wrote:So barrie gets his way and AV includes "none of the above" for the cleverclogs; extreme parties then mobilize in big way to capitalize on first time votes and we end up run by the Big Society-but Smaller- Liberation Party of Mybackyard; AWFULLY WELL DONE, bazza!
Just what you were looking for!
SPOILbarrieGAMES.
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Comment number 64.
At 20th Feb 2011, kashibeyaz wrote:MrDUFF; FURRST name Plumb a Jo(c)k(e) name whijjifink?
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Comment number 65.
At 20th Feb 2011, worcesterjim wrote:True Kashi....but our current and longstanding virtual one party state needs a bit of oik unrest and a boot up its well padded OE rear end....and contrary to the convenient myths advanced to us by the powerful those dear global capitalist sharks who orchestrate our smoke and mirrors "democrcacy" really only respect those prepared to use force and threats that they actually fear.
The IRA/SF are not in "coalition" because they arranged multisectarian trips to the seaside for reformed organised criminals and kissed Queen Hilary`s ring to show where their proper alleigances lay.
If Barrie`s sensible idea releases our long suppressed anger about being comprehensively betrayed by the silver-tongued stooges of global pirates it won`t be before time that someone took us ordinary overlooked beleagured British folk seriously....and the Yanks would put in a military government long before anything like the EDL or BNP sniffed the upholstery of Number 10.
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Comment number 66.
At 20th Feb 2011, ecolizzy wrote:I just knew we needed more unemployed.
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Comment number 67.
At 20th Feb 2011, ecolizzy wrote:British jobs for whom?
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Comment number 68.
At 20th Feb 2011, barriesingleton wrote:DON'T PANIC (#67)
Under the Clegg Protocol we can renege on any signature, especially ones that don't show up in a mirror.
AV for OPT OUT - Tell Nick
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At 20th Feb 2011, barriesingleton wrote:ALL PART OF THE AGE OF PERVERSITY (#67)
In the Westminster Citadel, payment for failure is guaranteed, wasteful working practices are called 'heritage', bullying in the workplace is called 'party loyalty' and the whole edifice should be called CORRUPTION.
Being a Royal Palace little is subject to law or even scrutiny under the law. They live within their own, dishonourable lie. It is a rotten barrel that attracts rotten apples, ultimately rotting the few that slip past the party selection unblemished.
How many blow the whistle, or resign because they have been party to(!) a fraud on the public, or BROKEN A PLEDGE? We have just GOT TO find a crack for the JEMMY OF DECENCY and bring down that citadel.
AV for OPT OUT - Tell Nick
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Comment number 70.
At 20th Feb 2011, barriesingleton wrote:MONTY PYTHON LIVES - BILLY THE SPUD EXPORTS BRITISH CLAPTRAP
Are we so determined to make hypocritical bloody fools of ourselves on the world stage? Is it not enough that one of our greatest Prime Ministers of all time (nuff sed) is a Manichean Messiah, who is turning into Gollum as the world looks on?
Somebody disconnect Hague's phone! I am too embarrassed for him, even to open an atlas.
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Comment number 72.
At 20th Feb 2011, kashibeyaz wrote:#66; quick nurse, remove that paper!
#65; "....releases our long suppressed anger...someone took us ordinary, overlooked, beleaguered British folk seriously.."
Who will do that when you describe barrie's "idea" as "sensible"?
You are increasing your chances a myriad times of being "overlooked" but never would anyone describe you as "ordinary"; "barking" perhaps, but never ordinary.
SPOILbarrieGAMES.
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Comment number 73.
At 20th Feb 2011, kashibeyaz wrote:~71; Whaur urthee "ares"? Might they be in Parsley??
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Comment number 74.
At 20th Feb 2011, worcesterjim wrote:72 As a mental health worker for many years kashi I am far better placed to know who is "barking" as you charmlessly put it ...and who is a rather unimaginative sarcastic clever dick who resents those with more imagination than himself.
But intuition tells me that you are cleverly trapping me into that diagnosis and are about to confound me a sparklingly brilliant original idea which will transform our lacklustre faux democracy into something wonderful and new.
The floor is yours!
BASH KASHI`s GAMES
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Comment number 75.
At 20th Feb 2011, ecolizzy wrote:#72 #66; quick nurse, remove that paper!
Ah no, Mr KB, the aim is to remove the English.
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Comment number 76.
At 20th Feb 2011, barriesingleton wrote:PRICELESS! (#75)
Thanks Lizzy. (:o)
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Comment number 77.
At 21st Feb 2011, kashibeyaz wrote:#75; "..the aim is to remove the English." Ah, but who then would read the Daily Mail?
#74; I don't think your assertion that a "mental health worker" would "know best" is likely to find favour with barriesingleton, given his rants against the NHS.
I'm not sure that "imagination" is what you have more of, frankly; perhaps delusions.
In any event I am a fan of the soviet - with a small "s" and without the Ladybird Book of History baggage - a system whereby assemblies large or small would agree an agenda or manifesto and then elect a delegate - not a representative - who would attend the larger assembly and represent the said agenda or manifesto.
Unlike representative democracy, the delegate has no power to, for example, vote against capital punishment if his assembly resolution supports capital punishment. So the delegate is bound by his own assembly's resolutions; he or she articulates/advocates these.
This soviet delegate role is one which Stalin hated, for it made it nigh on impossible to impose his will across the board; Lenin recognised this hatred and cautioned against Stalin being allowed any office of power, however Stalin suppressed Lenin's wishes after his death, dissolved the soviet assemblies and took power as Party Secretary. The rest is Soviet History.
A soviet delegate was a part-time job.
Democracy is not simply about elections and is not in great evidence in the approach many of the posters on this site take in their view of the world.
Democracy always has the challenge of whilst working on majority voting also recognizing the minority's position.
I see no sign of that recognition in what you, barriesingleton or that eco being trumpet; and that is concerning; that way fascism lies.Or perhaps more accurately, Stalinism.
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Comment number 78.
At 21st Feb 2011, MrDUFF wrote:Clickety Click All The 7's
Is Brownism sTalinisim or is that just A Miss
FREE Debt AddiVICE Don't Get In2 Debt
If You Are PHONE Them and Offer A Quid A Week
They Can Take It or Shove it .. They Gave You The Debt .. They Can Have it Back
Easy Peasy Twice as Cheesey
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Comment number 79.
At 21st Feb 2011, barriesingleton wrote:"RECOGNISING THE MINORITY'S POSITION" (#77)
Do you read what you write Kashi?
Nuff sed.
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Comment number 80.
At 21st Feb 2011, MrDUFF wrote:Beeb News @ One
Wullie Vague Hague LeGitiMate Grievance's or Concerns Re Libya
Same Here Mate .. Credibility of Libyan/UK Goverment had been Undermined by its Failure 2 Protect its Own People
C 7/7 and Crime Stats .. I Do Accept that under Pinky & NonPerky blair/brown these things have been allowed 2 happen. ie UK is A Haven for Terrorists/Criminals
Mi 5 Witness G Whizz States ProFound Regret .. Nevermind Finding Regret
Find The Baddies and Boot Them Out
Or Should I/We do it for Ourselves, I am Thinking about IT
Fathers/Mothers Main Duty is 2 Protect His/Her Own Children
UK Goverment's Report From Me is A Big Fat F for FAIL
My View is Politicians are Surplus 2 Requirement/Waste of Space/Rations
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Comment number 81.
At 21st Feb 2011, MrDUFF wrote:500 Mill Quids on 2011 Census ? I Shall Fill Mine with as much Bull*hit as Possible
The Allians Have Landed
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Comment number 82.
At 21st Feb 2011, MrDUFF wrote:Further 2 my Ate A Rant
Politicians Judges Barristers Solicitors Lawyers .. The Wrong Tribe
Have No Interest in Cutting Crime/Terror .. WHAT! .. Do themselves Out of A Nice Little NO
THE NO is ME ME ME ME and then more ME
Lovely LoLLY, Cut Off Me Groin Give Me That Coin
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