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UNMET NEED IN THE TYPICAL POLITICIAN

I have listened, twice, to Clegg on Desert Island Discs, and slowly his demons began to show up. Newsnight could do a lot more in this area - with competent staff and more useful interviewing styles.

I also saw some of Didactic Dave, lecturing subordinates. His history is quite conducive to the odd 'Drive Demon' also. More may emerge.

I have made clear the need to dispense with parties and party-pre-selection of rosette stand MPs, if competent governance is to arise. It follows that we need replacement MPs who are orders of magnitude less demon-driven than what the current 'system' delivers.

If we insist on continuing to live within the lie, and playing childish games with complicit media and conniving politicians, they will go on being drawn from the ranks of the driven, with consequences far from Britain's needs.

Now here's a thing...

johnprescott - Going on @bbcnewsnight to discuss housing benefit and social cleansing. Who'd have thought me and Boris would agree on something!

Well, other than the guys at Newsnight, obviously, which is how you get a 'proper debate' revved up, with con and... er... another con. Maybe edukashun standards from high office up will get discussed, too?

Still can't wait for what journalistic scoops Mr. Crick will 'have learned' from people who can't be mentioned.

Work that broadcast magic, Newsnight... work it!

Not exactly inspired to stay up as yet.

Still, it could have been worse. It could have been an hour long special interview with Elton John! Apparently ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ R2 thought their/his 'electric prom' concert last night was worthy of the headlines.

(Shhhhh - don't want to give them any ideas)

...Scottish and Southern Energy (SSE) is putting up its domestic gas tariffs by 9.4% at the start of December.

The company blamed the increasing wholesale cost of buying gas which it said had gone up by 25% since March this year....

/news/business-11651549

this is the european gas price chart



what 25% since march?

the regulator lets them get away with this every year. its a national scandal

Will the good Lord be sharing his considerable experience of using taxpayers' money to benefit from central London style (Admiralty Arch?) & elsewhere...?



All tips from an expert gratefully acknowledged.

Or maybe our occasional climate rapporteur might be prevailed upon to share his latest vision for concreting over the land to accommodate, affordably, many more he was lucky to meet in all those highly necessary, and in no way fund-to-the poor-diverting trips?



Maybe get him on the green air tax, too.

Picked a winner there, NN!

Good to see you have the main UK expert in corporate ethnic cleansing on your prog tonight, namely John Prescott with his Pathfinder scheme in the northern mill towns. Low income people who had paid for their house outright thrown onto the streets and into expensive rented accommodation outside their indigenous area. If he says anything about the Tories practicing ethnic cleansing he is a complete hypocrite !

Scottish and Southern Energy owns and operates the UK’s largest onshore gas storage facility at Hornsea in East Yorkshire. Nine salt caverns have been leached into a salt layer 1.8km below the surface, creating 325 million cubic metres (mcm) of gas storage capacity....

so why didn't they store gas in the summer?


they have history in price 'stickness?

..In April 2007, the British government's energy regulator, the Office of Gas and Electricity Markets (Ofgem), urged customers of Scottish Power and EDF Energy to switch to a cheaper provider after the firms refused to cut prices in line with the rest of the industry.

In April 2008 Ofgem launched an investigation into allegations that Scottish Power abused their dominant market position relating to the electricity transmission network they own jointly in Scotland.[12] Ofgem said it had launched its inquiry into Scottish Power and Scottish & Southern Energy under section 18 of the Competition Act, "based on a formal complaint alleging abuse of a dominant position in the electricity generation sector arising from constrained capacity on the transmission network."[13] The energy regulator believes that energy generators manipulate the power market for profit when supplies are tight because network operator National Grid has to pay utilities to turn their plants on or off to balance supply and demand. This resulted in companies deliberately shutting their plants down when supplies are tight in order to receive a higher payment to start up again, increasing the system balancing costs at the expense of consumers. Ofgem were alarmed that the cost of balancing the system increased from £70 million in 2007/08 to an estimated £238 million for 2008/09 and an expected £258 million pounds in 2009/10, with most of the costs incurred in Scotland. In January 2009, Ofgem suspended the investigation, saying it would be more effective to deal with the wider problem than pursuing the specific case further...



is it because they have an option to build nuclear the govt is turning a blind eye to the wealth transfer from poor to rich?



the 'great n good' overseeing this price hike scam

oops i got scottish power and scottish energy mixed up.

but its the same kind of thing.

CABLE CALLS PRESCOTT 'LAUGHING STOCK' (#5 link)

But we always knew just what to expect from Prezza. Nick upped-anchor and Vince, self-servingly, coiled up the Cable.

SPLICED
'We used to be LibDems
And we all had scruples
But Dave offered status
Now we drink quadruples.'

LOW PRICED GAS CORRODES REGULATORS (#4)

How did the Singing Postman put it? "I never sin a regulator on a bike."

Just another example of how Westminster messes up everyting it touches. MPs are chosen for the wrong skills and simply follow mad whims.

Dave is going great guns. He has taken credit for a figure mooted in August that Merkel pushed though - yet its HIS brilliant saving. There a 640 more ninnies like that back at the feudal palace.

'Mother' of parliaments - indeed.

Arrgghhhh!

low earners ie cleaners doing vital work to keep hospitals clean
does this mean they will be paid more for their work?

market rents based on house price speculation
turning on the weakest will not solve the nations problems,
once the nation has been thrown into chaos what happens then?

isnt the best way forward to share the pain of the recession rather than allowing the pain to be concentrated on the weakest,
cant beleive I am writng this, what sort of society are we heading into

has the time come to ?

Mid term elections days away. The Democrats looking finished as a political force..and Obama - the teleprompt president- looking like an idiot whilst interviewed by a third rate comic is proven to be what some already knew, Barry Obama is just another sweet-talking lawyer with no substance. Bombs on planes. Go on, see if you can join the dots.

VOX POP FROM THE 'HEADLESS CHICKEN' PUB

The Headless Chicken pub is a favourite pen for refugee Turkeys. Our reporter asked how they felt about the term: 'Voting for Christmas' used by a high-flying political Turkey. To a crop, they replied that voting for Christmas is serious stuff - you can get yourself killed. They were adamant, this is not some piece of inconsequential voting, like that Freedom of Information Act'.

As our reporter left, one Turkey shouted: "Get a Kossovar to explain it, beakless!"

WAY PAST TIME CAT (#14)

Those who watched Dominant Dave, treating triumph and disaster just the same (but not quite what Kipling meant, Dave) saw a clear proof that WE HAVE GOT OURSELVES ANOTHER ONE. Tony used to deliver all this tish.

Dave swept up to to the lectern, fully hyped with PR competence, and delivered a tour de tosh. Crick was filibustered. I presume the rule is: "show me up consummately, and you will never get another question"?

EU? EUGH!

I JOINED THE DOTS THAT I FOUND KEV (#15)

Do people ever seem to mount an attack on themselves, to gain sympathy? JJ used to say "What kind of people do that - think about it."

Do we only see the dots we are programmed to see?

Ken Livingstone suggested tonight capping rents rather than housing benefit

rent controls, rent controls rent controlsrent controls, rent controls , rent controls rent controls, rent controls -are surely the answer

if the market is distorted by forcing large numbers of people into other areas, the rents there will rise in such areas

and the amount mentioned by Colonel Stewart for discretionary housing benefit was very small given the problems that will be caused

#18

Would you imagine, singie, that lucky that I am brimming up with magical powers, I can see the invisible dots, and idiots, doing most boringly silly things.

mim, filled up to the brim, sting

I KEEP REMEMBERING TONY'S TANKS - SENT TO HEATHROW TO KEEP US SAFE (#13)

Funny the USA found a whole plane to 'escort' one bomblet-laden plane down. On 9/11 they had four rogue planes, and couldn't manage a single escort.

Is Obama going to PERSONALLY defuse a bomb and, like Maggie wading ashore in the Falklands, regain the YES WE CAN days of popularity?

Let's all remember Tony is Barack's chief adviser . . .

great news about the hobbits int it?

more from 'all our yesterdays' do you remember that

#20

Where is the mouse and who is the cat?
Or are you, blogger, mixed up about that?
Cap, cap, cap, the mouse is wearing a hat
And so is the Cat, with a different and smarter type of a pat.
Do you like that?

#23 correction

it was meant for #19

As November is nigh
I might have a pie
Tomorrow with blueberries to follow
Which hopefully will inspire me to ditty
On things like the concept of the eternity
The sign of which has a most beautiful shape
And which does rhyme incidentally with fate.
The fate which is entirely in my own mobile hands
And those of my real truth loving couple of friends.

mim

EPs

Presley and Piaf shared the initials EP
And I like both of them, yuppie (^_^)(^_^)!!
Even if they themselves were not always that happy
They still make whole millions sing feeling clappy.
So, big bravo to all stars like Elvis and Edith
Making us happy when they write books, dance, paint, perform or beautifully sing.

mim

johnprescott - Going on @bbcnewsnight to discuss housing benefit and social cleansing. Who'd have thought me and Boris would agree on something!

Did it happen?

All (possibly involved) have gone very coy.

Maybe it was something he said. Or did. Or didn't do. Or might of been asked. Or not.

Over to iPlayer. Looks like it's Ken deputising. Do Producers work down a list?

#27

I should imagine, junk, that they do. Probably a few of them, including one of what you're 'up' to.

27. At 09:19am on 30 Oct 2010, you wrote:
Looks like it's Ken deputising.

Comedy gold. Well worth it!

Ken pwnd at every turn and even the straight man getting desperate enough to close it down for more comments lest he dig a deeper hole.

What's that Ken? Call on the money fairy again to pay for... 'everything'? Classic.

I can see why Mr. Prescott was binned. Only surprised the entire piece wasn't quietly dropped, such is the disconnect in some quarters with public mood.

Speaking of vast over-manning to little effect and some teasing, no blog from anyone else busy as bees yesterday?

NEVER MIND THE ROSE, ENGLAND'S EMBLEM SHOULD BE THE FORGET-ME-NOT? (#22)

So much is left behind in our rush to total perfidy. Just to list things like Ecclestone's bouncing million, the end of the BAE enquiry, Yates of the Yard at No 10, etc. reminds us of just how corrupt IT ALL IS. lat was labour. Now we are into ConDem corruption. IT IS ALL WESTMINSTER.

MP allowances were a distraction; very welcome to Westminster. But the amount of core-rot that remains in our 'advanced civilised democracy' is always re-hidden - buried. Westminster is a shiny crown (pun apposite) fitted to a seriously infected tooth.

LET US NOT FORGET.

I am STILL pursuing enquiries into the 'liar flyer' that reads: THE CONSERVATIVES MUST WIN HERE TO STOP ANOTHER 5 YEARS OF GORDON BROWN". And STILL no one wants to engage - least of all Newsnight. I ask you: WHY DO THEY CHOOSE SILENCE? When does a child stay silent?

Anyone seen Brown? Has Dave closed those subsidised Westminster bars yet? Has Nicotine Nick found the strength of personality to ‘govern himself’ yet?

Oh - it's all going awfully nowhere.

Thing about lists is, do you worry more about the person drawing 'em up, or those that mutter darkly about them being abused. Especially when they seem so 'intimate' at times.



As the good Pastor so tragically coined, some may be of greater interest now, but even those kept merely close can find themselves suddenly under the spotlight in due course.

To start, see which posts survive the longest:)

RICH IN SUBSTANCE AND IN STYLE (#31)

Pure poetry Junkk. See you in the lists.

I think we have forsaken the Pastor for the pastie. An easy mistake to make. . .

BLUNKETT SAYS WHITE ENGLISH EXTREMISTS ARE A GROWING THREAT.

I once heard the same David Blunkett say that he did not believe the colour of man's skin had any relevance.

I have self-censored the rest of this post, in deference to the Blogdog's sensibilities.

We live in surreal times.

#31

Are you sure and can you swear to it, junk, that you are still feeling as boisterous now at 13.19 o'clock as you were 10.15 am?

#33

Mr Blumkett is absolutely right about the extremists white
For which I would like to shake both his hands one day
And pat his guide dog on its caring and well trained guide head.
But for the time being please kindly send him a message
From mad madam mim undergoing her 'dressage'.

I kinda feel sorry for Cameron ,I know I shouldn't, but he has been left with near nothing by the last lot and now he has to work closely with the most pro EU political party in the UK Parliament.

This UKIP video gives a different angle on events at the summit.


Global governance.
Maybe one evening NN will find the time to discuss what our President means by his repeated use of this term ?

BTW NN.
I think you will find that the Council of Ministers vote on reducing the EU's budget was by Qualified Majority Voting , Cameron had to go with the group with most votes to have even the possibility of reducing the EU's budget.
Next year when a new 5 year EU budget comes up for discussion , he will be able to use the UK's veto, if he wants.
But I hear there has been suggestions that the EU Parliament and the EU Commission are rather tired of dealing with provincial administrators and are seeking direct EU taxation from its citizens, so who knows.

#35 addendum

Could I also please ask you to send a message to Rolf
Giving so much pleasure and laughter to me, a Brit and a Pole.

I'd be much obliged if one of you does, be it a journo,
An editor or just one of the readers.
Mr Harris does deserve big applause and big cheers.

#33 We live in surreal times.

We sure do Barrie, read this > For some reason the english don't need the work, :/ shocking 9 out 10 jobs going to migrants.

"DAVID CAMERON HAS PLEDGED" (#38 link)

There is an invisible 'bonus' that comes with expensive education and cheap money. It is an unwritten, unspoken EMPOWERMENT over ordinary folk. (JunkkMale @31 has a link that covers it.) It is what gives solicitors and their ilk, that right to do a damn bad job - look you in the eye - and charge double.

A PLEDGE from Dominant Dave to the easily led, means nothing to him - how could it. Have you never promised your dog a walk that it is still waiting for? Strange to tell, my local MP (Newbury Berkshire) is a 'quality person' and chum of Dave - guess how he treats my concerns?

Dave signed a pledge for the cameras, on the Cornish seashore (from memory) in the run-up to the election. Nick signed a pledge - yeah right. I think we might have a new pejorative term. What a bunch of pledgers!

Oh - it's all going awfully 'them and us' - don'tcha know.

CRATED JOBS

Nicotine Nick, has the politician's quirk of strange pronunciation. Healey had his 'be-cause', Major his 'wunt', Thatcher her 'first person plural', Tony his 'ut', Brown his Alky Ada. Nick 'crates' when he should create, BUT HOW APPOSITE WHERE JOBS ARE CONCERNED. Before we created all these jobs and filled them with Johnnie Foreigner, we use to CRATE them up, and ship them to JOHNNIE FOREIGNER LAND!

PS - Have we all noted that Hilary has simply switched off his Blair Glottal? Pah-thetic. So much for loyalty.

What a bunch of pledgers!

PULL THE OTHER ONE Smart bomb - dumb bombers?

So it was intended to blow up a plane, in flight. Why then address it to a SYNAGOGUE and not a more plausible destination for a toner cartridge? Not to mention sending it from Yemen. Was there a return address as well? c/o ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖr J Simpson? 9/11 deja vu.

There is a lot to be read behind the obfuscation.

How did they find these bombs?

No doubt the CIA and other have been busy recently. Getting someone to plant/post them and then finding them must take up all of their time. Me hopes they were on double pay and bonus. "Chuck and Bob, we messed up with the Xmas underpants bomber, lets not mess this one up"...so far so good. Well, when you've got a media thats an arm of the Govt...

KOSHER CARTRIDGES OF YEMEN (#42)

Cheaper than your local supplier. Single cartridges - post free - next plane delivery. Put the wanting into waiting.

There is a whole year's stand-up material in this one Kev.

But didn't Kitten Shoes show APLOMB for a bomb!

#42 & #43
You both 'speak', as well as the table frequently does, almost as you've had something to do with it yourselves. Haven't you boasted a few times recently of being one of some group of terrorists, singie, who need/have to be 'joined' if they cannot be beaten?

41. At 6:23pm on 30 Oct 2010, barriesingleton
42. At 6:54pm on 30 Oct 2010, kevseywevsey
43. At 8:03pm on 30 Oct 2010, barriesingleton

Points worth making and questions worth asking all. Yet for all the terrorist experts (as opposed to terrorists - one set comments (for money, which makes them expert), the others terrorise, a distinction that can be missed by some almost as if a wee bit obsessed categorising or drawing up lists and making accusations most certainly not contrary to pre-moderation criteria, oh, no) gracing our screens and teleprompter readers teasing out their expertise, not ones I have heard investigated as yet.

Me, I use Cartridge World. Maybe I'll try the free p&p offer from Helmland so long as you accept the 'any colour you like so long as it's white' t&cs.

32. At 10:49am on 30 Oct 2010, barriesingleton
Pure poetry Junkk. Fully appreciated:) And backatacha.

PLANETS AND PLANS (#46)

Cosmo-logical (sic) 'science' told us, recently, that an inferred, watery, rocky planet is circling a star, some vast distance away, and could well have life on it.

Yesterday, our government (first rule: 'protect') told us they could not rule out the possibility that an intercepted bomb was intended to 'explode over Britain'.

There are fairies at the bottom of my garden, hence I cannot rule out future terrorist acts on their part.

I predict: next year's Turner Prize will be won by a vacuous chamber, into which you are invited to project your imaginings - as Creator.

Oh - it's all going awfully.

A CERTAIN SMILE

Just watching Teresa May, wordily, telling Andrew Marr that she cannot possibly give him security details (for which, he was not asking) while she oozes satisfaction at her own, perceived, importance. I feel so much safer.

If MPs were chosen for MATURITY, rather than the ability to 'talk to infinity', governance would be a whole lot more relevant.

SPOILPARTYGAMES

No comment, but.....

CLARITY BEGINS AT HOME (#49 link)

He was a megalomaniac. He had spiritual delusions. He went to war on falsehoods. He drew some VERY peculiar aides to his side. When all was lost he avoided responsibility.

Now let's compare at Hitler . . .

a lot pf people are really p....d off with this airport security lark especially when the Yanks on the internal flights do not have the draconian checks, how do we know this middle east malarkey is not keep us all on our toes and c....ing ourselves and having to go along with the whole and saying to the security services...carry on, Mr Plod and do your worst....

A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE........

The 'viable devices', did they have a) a detonator b) a critical amount of explosive material? Are we supposed to assume? Fearfully fill in the gaps? A viable device could go pop, bang, or boom. The uncertainty is all there.

Questions asked by others above are clearly sound, intelligent questions, but note how filling in the gaps when it suits the purposes of government agencies and friends of the UK etc seems to be actively encouraged, whilst any unfavourable gap filling behaviour is quickly disparaged as paranoid 'conspiracy theory'?

Searching transport for 'viable devices' planted by terrorists is a credible alternative to checking/discouraging free-trade of some goods I guess. It also serves to keep an age old victim-hood/affirmative action ruse going. Some do very well out of this, but don't ever suggest so, as that would be very bad thinking.

Finally, the RPG spotting army specialist was very fluent and well spoken the other night didn't you think?

On some things it's just best to suspend belief and disbelief. See some figure sin the Paul Mason blog for what one should not suspend belief over, that people do is, well, remarkable in itself.

DON'T ASK DON'T TELL (#51)

Psychological profiling of upper levels of government - worldwide - would probably save more lives in a year, than all the airport checks, to the end of time.

It would certainly have flagged up the 9/11 self-inflicted triumph. And Tony must surely have scored way beyond 100% risk.

#46

Do you mean 'Hell Land' and are you referring to Pete Seger's song 'Little Boxes', white junky?

#49

Major Francis Fetherston-Godley looks in the photo a bit like De Gaul, doesn't he although they did seem rather different attitudes to the little man, didn't they, Mistress76uk?

#52

are you having a remarkable time in the gap, table?

"49. At 10:08am on 31 Oct 2010, Mistress76uk wrote:
No comment, but....."

Exactly, just more innuendo, without any respect for analysis of facts.

Tell us Mistress76uk, looking at these figures from the ONS (and the same story can be told for most of Europe including in recent times, Russia), has the recent immigration into England/Wales been to cover up a holocaust? Would you describe what as been happening in Scotland that way?

Do you think the demographic figures add up? Has the world Jewish population dramatically shrunk since the 1930s? What do you think? Dare you think objectively? Is clear thinking and objective analysis verboten these days? If so, why? Who are the evil people?

and the USA's federal budget.

#57

A bit of a silly question to Mistress76uk, isn't it? You must be suffering from a short memorry problem, tb02, since wasn't it yourself declaring to act with evil intentions??

I really do think that the people, or just one individual, who started the 'game' are now finding themselves caught up in a most incredibly 'woven' web of their own 'creation' that they've completely lost any sense of reality and their initial objectives apart from the clear one remaining of becoming stinking rich. Nothing else matters to them. Emotions, feelings, common sense, even childrens' well being do not matter to them. They can't even see the trouble that's facing them sooner or later.

Monika

@ Tabblenabble02 #57 - Did you bother READING the article? Liam Maguire, Press Officer for the British Legion wrote the article, where he (with pictures in the article) that the Royal British Legion went out to Nazi Germany to meet Hitler, Goering and Himmler, and even went to visit Dachau too. However, the most damning lines are "n the Thirties the Legion had a foreign policy arm and had regular meetings with the Prime Minister. And in early 1935, the Legion's patron, the Prince of Wales – who was crowned King Edward VIII the following year – gave a speech to the Legion's annual conference in which he supported the trip." This, inspite of the fact that the Lord Privy Seal (Anothony Eden) had warned against the Royal British Legion from embarking upon such a trip.....


As for your question on the world's Jewish Population, the figures from 1182 - 2008 are given here:
You will note that the population in 1939 was 16,728,000 and in 2008, the figures were 13,300,000.

#60

Bravo, Mistress76uk, it looks like you've given the ever so 'clever' table a comprehensive answer. By the same token I'd like to remind what a great role the Royalty played under the reign of the current Monarch's Father and Mother in the war effort.

Monika

Where have all the 'secrets gone
Long time passing?
Where have all the 'secrets' gone
Long time ago?, to paraphrase the great Mr Seeger who I hope doesn't mind me paraphrasing his words and who, I understand, may be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prise which I do hope he gets awarded!!!!

Monika

#£62 addendum

And to paraphrase this truly remarkable man, I believe 'We shall overcome' stools and tables.

****

#63. And one more

'this land is your land, this is my land' whether you are black, white, pinky or brown.

"60. At 2:54pm on 31 Oct 2010, Mistress76uk wrote:
@ Tabblenabble02 #57 - Did you bother READING the article? Liam Maguire, Press Officer for the British Legion wrote the article, where he (with pictures in the article) that the Royal British Legion went out to Nazi Germany to meet Hitler, Goering and Himmler, and even went to visit Dachau too. However, the most damning lines are "n the Thirties the Legion had a foreign policy arm and had regular meetings with the Prime Minister. And in early 1935, the Legion's patron, the Prince of Wales – "

Yes I did read it. Hitler and Mussolini were considered to be excellent politicians in the 1930s (especially in Germany and Italy). You don't seem to understand that many people throughout Europe regarded Hitler and Mussolini as great statesmen at that time. What was WWII all about do you think? From the German perspective, It was war against anarchism and naked capitalism. Did you know that? The very sorts of things which have been happening recently in fact.

As to your figures, perhaps you didn't read the link which I provided, or perhaps you failed to do the maths? Jews are largely Ashkenazim.
These are Europeans. They have below replacement level fertility like other Europeans, but they can't add large numbers to their group through a) immigration or b) mass conversion (the latter is discouraged). So, one would therefore expect a fall in the size of their number through natural, non-replacement level fertility (exacerbated by a higher fertility problem than in other groups because of fertility affecting disorders like NCAH and marrying out). The relatively high numbers today would seem to be consistent with what one would expect by this natural birth dearth process would you not agree?

I'm sure this must have been pointed out before? (there was also a loss of many after the war as many were in the USSR where the West could not count them, that changed in the 80s as they migrated.)

#65

Which way is it that you seem to be wanting to point, to the North West, North East, South West, East West, or simply and straightforwardly to the North, South, East or West? Please do tell us, won't you? The World can't wait no more, we ALL want to know, please, I beg you, the World is awaiting your answer with an abated breath.

BTW, mr table, do you by any chance know Mr Seeger's song 'Deep in the Big Muddy' about a 'very clever and powerful' captain? It's really good, it really is. Superb!!!!

TRADE WAR - BUT NOT AS WE KNOW IT?

With the lifting of 'international border controls, and with protectionism and nationalism being severely frowned upon in the 'free-world' (not to mention trade wars being strictly taboo), how exactly might liberal-democratic governments prevent their markets from being flooded with cheap goods which might cripple their own economies?
Anti-terrorist legislation might be handy here surely? That way they could inspect freight on planes, trains and automobiles. How else would they legitimately regulate?

THE DIASPORA DEPARTMENT

Theresa May spoke of the Pakistani on the AM Show this morning. Did everyone realise there were so many? I guess the big one was 30-100,000 years ago when we all left Africa? Today there are so many one easily gets confused. Theresa didn't speak of immigration though. Maybe that was a cue for a new dysfunctional (³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ Office) department? The Diaspora Department?

#68

Why, do you expect every minister, if not every politician, to talk about immigration every time they open their mouths, just about the way Ecolizzy does?

Do you mean by 'terrorists' who do not bow to your expectations, 'captain'?

As today is All Saints
I shall try and remain serious
Throughout the whole day
Unless an idiot or two
Throw me into great outbursts of laughter
‘Staging’ their insanely ‘inspired theatre’.

mim
Considering, I am relatively trim

Seems a lot of medics agree with you Barrie!

GOING FORWARD (#71)

At last! NOW Dave is sure to close the 19 bars of Westminster, as a valid and valuable declaration of HONOURABLE intent.


Isn't he?

#71

Ah, Ecolizzy, it's just one of those stories that end up in a bin and I bet you that many a medic not only enjoys a regular tipple but would argue vehemently, providing most valid proofs, that it's b... thing. If you drink nothing else but alcohol from the morning till the night then of course you're in trouble but the same applies to eating nothing else but carrots, for example, when people turn orange, suffer with vital organs failure and die and if they're lucky to have anybody caring about them, their graves might get a visit every now and then, notably on a day like today, the All Saints Day.

Don't you ever have a drink with some percentage of alcohol in it? I do and I certainly cannot complain about having any health problems. On the contrary, in fact.

mim

"71. At 08:39am on 01 Nov 2010, ecolizzy wrote:
Seems a lot of medics agree with you Barrie!



It's a bit like asking which is more harmful, and M16 or an AK47?
Alcohol's pleasurable (and habit forming) effects work through the same CNS mechanisms that the opiates do. It's just that the latter do so more directly. Heroin and crack destroy lives just as alcohol abuse does.

Take drugs and alcohol out of society and crime would fall dramatically it is said. Sadly, many abusing substances would probably just find some other way to self-medicate. Neither alcohol or drug prohibition looks like it's on anyone's agenda though. We have a free society. Russia has a major problem with both these days. Barrie should let this one go, along with his concern about politicians and their personalities. These are just distractions. See Table 7.5 of the ONS annual abstract of statistics for what matters, that and our feminization of Britain and its cost to all.

#74

oh, you and your statistics, static

are you going to a pub this afternoon like you did the other day? it seemed then like almost an invitation for us to meet but how do I recognise you, are you made of wood or do you remind Lord Kitchener by any chance?

TALKING LIKE A WOMAN (#74)

"Barrie should let this one go"

Some of us are made of sterner stuff Tab. Are you eating too much soya?