Wednesday 3 September 2008
Here is Kirsty with news of tonight's programme.
Hello to viewers here, there and everywhere.
Labour
"Labour is destined to disaster!" That's a flavour of Charles Clarke's full frontal assault launched bang in the middle of Gordon Brown's relaunch week, in an article in tomorrow's New Statesman.
He warns that Labour faces "utter destruction at the next election" unless it changes course - and rails against the "Brown political briefing team" accusing them of "traducing" David Miliband.
He stops short of saying "Brown must go." ... but only just.
We'll be assessing the damage Charles Clarke has done - especially after such a rocky start to the week with the fall-out from the Chancellor's candid assessment of the parlous state of the British economy - and the signals Michael Crick is getting about division in the Cabinet over the question of a windfall tax.
Add to that Paul Mason's intelligence about disagreements in the Monetary Policy Committee over whether or not to cut interest rates now, and the whole relaunch is looking as if it might hit the rocks.
Republican Convention
When John McCain announced that the Governor of Alaska would be his running mate, $10 million came pouring into his campaign. Here at last was a bit of chutzpah, a frisson of excitement, the first ever woman on the Republican ticket, after becoming Alaska's youngest and first woman governor two years ago.
Sarah Palin speaks tonight at the Republican Convention, introducing herself to the American people.
Apparently she's going to "go big" on her family straight away. In the hours after McCain picked her, the revelations about Sarah Palin kept on coming, and interest in her has knocked every other story in the US election off the page.
Palin is under investigation by state lawmakers in Alaska, but says she's "cool" about allegations she fired someone for personal reasons. Emily Maitlis will be talking to the former Director of ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖland Security Tom Ridge about the McCain/Palin combo.
Kevin Keegan
And why has the fate of Kevin Keegan gripped us all? Once he sported a tight perm, and a fine footballing skill, now he's the grey haired manager of Newcastle United for the second time.
But is he about to be shown the red card by the Newcastle United board, or is he about to resign furious that the board has dealt with players without consulting him, or is it none of the above? Our Culture Correspondent Steve Smith takes us deep into the Kevin Keegan story.
I hope you'll be watching,
Kirsty
Comment number 1.
At 3rd Sep 2008, NickThornsby wrote:Is it just me or does the first paragraph not make sense?
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Comment number 2.
At 3rd Sep 2008, Icious wrote:No it's not just you, but what the heck i'll add to your comment and maybe the moderator will actuallly read what you wrote and i wrote and get some deadwood to sort it out!
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Comment number 3.
At 3rd Sep 2008, barriesingleton wrote:STREAM OF ALTERNATIVE CONSCIOUSNESS.
Hey Nick (#1) the syntax fit nicely with the art-shots (courtesy of Ray Ling) and the musack. This isn't just news and current affairs - it's NEWSNIGHT news and current affairs.
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Comment number 4.
At 3rd Sep 2008, JadedJean wrote:"American politics and McCain's maverick running mate, Sarah Palin is their division in the MPC over interest rates, and division at the Cabinet table over a windfall tax?"
Yes, it's mangled.
Newsnight, this is not the USA.
As to Brown's team causing David Miliband 'humiliation or disgrace by making malicious and false statements', isn't that what New Labour's famous for? How are we to tell what is and is not true?
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Comment number 5.
At 3rd Sep 2008, NickThornsby wrote:Oh, and the fate of Kevin Keegan has not gripped us all. Why do people who like football assume that everyone else likes it too. It is a dull game, attracts dull people, pays stupid people stupid amounts of money, and gets on my bloody nerves.
Ok, rant over. Look forward to the show, apart from the bit about FOOTBALL!
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Comment number 6.
At 3rd Sep 2008, hillsideboy wrote:As it's my 76th birthday today I'll be giving NN a big miss tonight, exchanging views on topics of real local and national importance with my family and friends, none of whom are the least bit interested in the American circus, power-hungry politicians, or sporting 'celebs', even if they are all involved at Cabinet level.
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Comment number 7.
At 3rd Sep 2008, soreeyes9 wrote:I got it now David Genola is Olde McCains running mate, Charles Clarke seeks destruction of the Labour Party, and, late running news as usual, Kevin Keegan is sacked by Newcastle United so he can bcome the new Govenor of Alaska...
Why not?
Hombre Invisable, Gordon Brown, in the middle of his relaunch week is met by resounding silence and a shrug of the shoulders. But does this man really care?
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Comment number 8.
At 3rd Sep 2008, manchester_me wrote:The biggest football story for a long time is the Abu Dhabi takeover of Manchester City. On your staff you have a confirmed fan of football in Manchester who has long been an activist in those circles.
So what do you do Newsnight do? They wheel out the bloke with the ironic drawl to pontificate on Keegan and his perm.
Have a word with yourselves.
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Comment number 9.
At 3rd Sep 2008, manchester_me wrote:Any chance of getting some more reports of the Indian floods, or have you blown the budget on sending half the team to cover a lot of US wind?
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Comment number 10.
At 3rd Sep 2008, barriesingleton wrote:LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT (It will end in tears)
There is a distinct facial similarity between McCain and Palin. As I have blogged before: my local paper shows that facial prejudice is rife in domestic marriages. Why not in political ones? (But that's not important right now.)
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Comment number 11.
At 3rd Sep 2008, cmonsaintmirren wrote:Actually, I'd love to be watching but in Scotland we have switched to the Shirley McKee half hour.
I don't suppose the ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ with its various digital arms might give us some choice in this matter?
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Comment number 12.
At 3rd Sep 2008, NickThornsby wrote:And something else. Why do your reporters in America have to wear those ridiculous microphones? If there is a peculiar technical reason for it, I shall forgive you, but they really do look like they are going to leap up and start singing and dancing a la steps, or some other corny 90's pop group. Any chance of a nice clothing colour, inconspicuous one?!
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Comment number 13.
At 3rd Sep 2008, StuartDenman wrote:Oh dear. Thanks for your comments about what should have been obvious to us before we published - that the opening paragraph was "mangled". I did begin to unmangle it but then it seemed simpler to remove it entirely. The curious can still read what the fuss was about in JadedJean's post (4), where the unforgiveable misuse of "their" also resides.
Stuart
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Comment number 14.
At 3rd Sep 2008, NickThornsby wrote:What we want to know now Stuart, is:
Whose unforgivable misuse of 'their' was it?
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Comment number 15.
At 3rd Sep 2008, Wirepride wrote:I'm sure I heard Emily Maitlis on tonight's show ask whether Palin appeased people like Jerry Falwell... Jerry Falwell's dead. Given the number of producers Newsnight have shipped over to the US, you'd think they'd know this.
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Comment number 16.
At 4th Sep 2008, brossen99 wrote:Gordon Brown's September re-launch is looking like a complete flop. The Corporate Nazi's in the civil service are about to sign contracts for the trial introduction of National Toll Roads. The result of the trials would appear to be covered under the official secrets act, but tolls will be based on post code. It is patently obvious that the aim of the policy is to facilitate ethnic cleansing by stealth tax. It could be said that road tolls are a precursor to financial apartheid, affluent areas will cost more to drive through.
When are the cloth eared empty headed Labour MP's going to realize that if they continue to proceed with Corporate Nazi ideology like Toll Roads and Bin Tax ID cards etc, they will be annihilated at the next election.
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Comment number 17.
At 4th Sep 2008, Steve_London wrote:My personal views, as ever.
Labour -
Clark is wrong, it is not "Will Labour lose", it's "How much will they lose by" at the next general election.
I can not say it better than Arthur Harris did.
"They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind."
They should not feel to bad about this, they have had a good run compared to other Labour or Conservative Governments of the past.
Interest Rates -
Given the News Night MPC all agreed to do nothing, I look forward to later on today to find out what the real MPC does.
If the BofE sole concern is Inflation, I can not see why the BofE does not leap to Sterlings defense with a interest rate rise.
If they don't the markets will lose further faith in Sterling and sell,which will increase our imported inflation, specially in relation to our winter fuel and food costs.
If interest rates go upwards, foreign moneys will start to flow into our banking system and the Banks will have money to lend again, even if you will have to pay more for it.
I got my fingers crossed for a rate increase !
McCain/Palin -
It's none of my business but I would like to make one non political point about Palin, she reminds me of the President in Battlestar Galactica(the new one).
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Comment number 18.
At 4th Sep 2008, Spanner7337 wrote:LABOUR - the loonatic minority fringe party
Labour listens to the minority interest anti-car extremist groups and sowed anti-car policies on 30m motorists, minority health extremist groups and banned 12m smokers, anti-privacy extremists and spy-camered every street and showed their true anti-capatalist colours by taxing carbon to control consumer and energy markets.
Anybody left to crucify by this extremist minority socialist State?
³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ - extremist minority socialist broadcaster
The ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ have lost the plot. The rott set in when Labour (Blair and Straw) used their cronies at the ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ, Dame Pauline Neville-Jones, a ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ governor to remove Greg Dyke over the Iraq/WMD dossier.
Since then, like the dossier itself, the ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ have lost their journalistic integrity and balance and taken up even more dodgy dossiers on the climate fraud and reviving the miserable failure that is socialism.
The Republican Convention reporting again tonight follows the usual pattern of a smeer campaign on bealf of their beloved US socialist party, the Democrats.
Despite Obama ruling out attacks of candidates families the blonde communist ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ reporter fired off a criticism (amongst many) of Sarah Palins pregnant teenage daughter.
³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ integrity is in the sewer and has been since Labours pro-war anti-turth cronies took over at the ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ.
Bring back Greg Dyke and kick the communists out of the ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ.
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Comment number 19.
At 4th Sep 2008, JunkkMale wrote:'5. At 9:24pm on 03 Sep 2008, NickThornsby'
Got there before me, but may I echo the sentiment.
In addition to exposing the woeful state of journalism, editorial and communication abilities we are being served up these days, what a neat mindset example of how our supposedly intelligent, considered and objective media act, more worryingly think, and even more jaw-droppingly think they act.
At least this time we have a poster to thank for having a clue as to what the heck got re-written. Usually the howler gets changed retroactively leaving those that have pointed it out to be left hanging.
And then there is another to point out that what 'news' that is spun to 'grip' us is more often down to the agenda and ratings interests of an isolated media minority than any reflection of public interest.
Here's a little news flash for the 4th estate... get back to finding real news and simply reporting on it. Not trying to make it up and then hyping to suit.
I want the facts, not what you think, and certainly not what you (or your PR mates) have decided I need to think.
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Comment number 20.
At 4th Sep 2008, JadedJean wrote:LOGIC/GEOPOLITICS (AND NEO-LABOUR/NEO-CONS)
Spanner7337 (#18) "Anybody left to crucify by this extremist minority socialist State?"
The Labour Party?
New Labour has not passed 'socialist' legislation to the best of my knowledge. In a parliamentary democracy, that's all a government can do, i.e reform through legislation. New Labour (which is anarcho-capitalist in my view, not 'socialist' unless you class what was once called 'Militant Tendency' 'socialist') has:
1. Increased the economic divide between the rich and poor.
2. Increased the size/proportionality of the underclass/and shrunk the 'elite' through:
a) mass low-skilled immigration
b) promoting sex-equality
c) education, education, education
3. Continued to make the welfare state ineffective so it can be sold off to the highest bidder.
4. Broken the nation up into Regional Assemblies (N Ireland, Scotland, Wales, London etc) so it can be absorbed into the EU federation as NUTS.
In the process they've made many think worse of the Old Labour Party than they did when it was in opposition (when it was largely tainted by the same entryists comprising Militant Tendency (Trotskyites) whose job it was to make Old Labour unelectable and usher in unbridled (non Keynesian) capitalism, which, according to Marxist theory, is the sine qua non for revolution. In the meantime of course, their Neocon friends who run the markets get to make lots of money as the state is sold off and as the underclass/proletariat swells se above).
New Labour has operated as de facto Conservatives (anarcho-capitalists). New Labour ceased being 'socialist' when it got rid of Clause IV. All of the 'Equalities' political correctness, especially the frequent anti-nazi propaganda (cf. holocaust, sex-equality, anti-racism etc), is designed to make a command, planned, or even mixed economy ('socialist') unpalatable/inconceivable. Just look at who the Bush/Blair team, and now Brown/Miliband vilify/vilified. They attack/undermine (national) socialist states.
New Labour is as 'socialist' as the Socialist International (SI) which are closet anarcho-capitalists - see the SI's Pakistan People's Party and what is happening there geopolitically - more anarcho-capitalists, Bhutto being yet another US groomed neo-con like Saakashvili. Are these parties 'socialist' too? If so, why isn't Saakashvili's seeking alliance with the Chinese (Democratic-Centralist) led SCO ? The reason why the US and New Labour back the PPP in Pakistan, is, I suggest, because it WON'T join the SCO, (which is socialist).
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Comment number 21.
At 4th Sep 2008, MaggieL wrote:I agree with NickThornsby about those new microphones. Advances in technology have produced discreet virtually invisible 21st century microphones. Why does the ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ want to take a gigantic step backwards and make everyone look as though they're suffering from facial warts? Someone needs to find out who the supplier is and who awarded the contract.
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Comment number 22.
At 4th Sep 2008, JadedJean wrote:nortongriffiths (#21) Re the odd looking mike's - it gets very 'windy' at those Neocon conventions you know.
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Comment number 23.
At 4th Sep 2008, JadedJean wrote:TAIL WAGS DOG
The When Georgia, the Batic States, Ukraine, and the Warsaw Pact countries want independence, that's to be encouraged, but when Abkhazia, South Ossetia or (further South-West) want autonomy/independence, it isn't. During the in 2003, Abashidze, leader of Ajara sent activists to support Eduard Shevardnadze, Saakashvili having pledged to crack down on separatism within Georgia!
This has nothing to do with USA or Trotskyite Neocons does it? Nor did the Ukranian 'Orange Revolution'. One would have to be paranoid or even a little 'prejudiced'/'racist' to suggest it served any particular endogamous group's political/economic interests, and that is verbotten becaue of what happened in WWII.
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Comment number 24.
At 4th Sep 2008, bookhimdano wrote:gas prices still making new lows .
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Comment number 25.
At 5th Sep 2008, Spanner7337 wrote:Jaded Jean,
Firstly there's very little (good) a government can do about the economy. It's main job is to keep its own obesity (Govt spending) in check, something Labour on their credit card spending orgy has miserably failed to do.
Similarly there's nothing Labour can do about this vacuous critique we keep hearing about, "the gap" between rich and poor. Taxing rich to subsidise poor is an act of stupidity no party can sustain. Again the best that can be done is to tax the middle classes the least (by spending discipline) and encourage a vibrant economy to enrich the poor through solid jobs.
The only consistency policies Labour persues are;
1. Spend, spend, spend - and run up huge Govt debt
2. Tax, tax, tax - now 50% of GDP. From fraudulent CO2 taxes to dozens of new stealth taxes
3. Control (aka behaviour change) - 1,600 new laws to micro manage our every waking moment
4. Criminalise our liberal society - never has so many laws criminalised so many normal people going about everyday life - from speeding, parking, litter, smoking bans, health and safety rules, building rules, noise rules etc. This is fingerprinting school kids, ID Cards and DNA databases
5. Destroy civil rights and privacy - Britain is the most spyed on populace in the world. Our rights have systematically been removed and undermined, from smoking bans to internet privacy etc
I agree with your view Labour are siphoning off huge sums of public money to friends in the 'private' (socialist) business sector.
The more we are taxed by Labour the less they deliver. From less productive police, to the wasted £billions on the NHS, from £billions of Iraq to extra £billions on 'national security' to less productive more expensive road building and public transport. The systematic waste, over spending, huge spending sprees with no value delivered must have deep roots in State corruption - you simply cannot spend so much and deliver so little as Labour have done unless you mix corruption with total incompetance.
See Iraq/WMD for how Labour 'get away with it'. There's no justice or accountability in our corrupt Parliamentary system. The entire system is manned by Labour cronies covering each others arse
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