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NOT THE NINE O'CLOCK OLYMPICS

Remember 'Not the Nine O'clock News'? Said it all really.
Can the ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ fix us up with NOT THE FREAKISH OLYMPICS? The 'games' are now a hard-core politico-chemico-ultra-physiologico spectacle, far removed from normal humanity and more akin to warfare. If I cannot find a hibernation pill on the web, I need a channel that does not keep defaulting to Olympic-itis. Any chance of some wall to wall satire based on the whole charade? NEST OF CUCKOO? BULL IN CHINA? NO PEEKING? Oh, you have a go - I have to lie down.
PS In case you think I am anti athletics: I won the Senior Javelin 1956.

Interesting juxtapostion: Dwain Chambers and Solzhenitsyn whose last words to the
Russians before going into exile in 1974 were 'Live not by lies' ..........

Neal Ascherson gave Scotland a similar message in 1986 in his lecture to the
annual conference of the SNP - taking
as his text the advice Thomas Masaryk
the father of Czechoslovak independence
once gave his people "as in 1918 they faced the alarming prospect of taking over responsibility for themselves".

Ascherson went on to compare the double nature (or 'antisyzygy' - combination of opposites) characteristic of some Scots
and some Czechs .... and probably also
some Russians and some sprinters who
use chemical enhancements to win races?

So why not fuse these two items - and get Dwain Chambers discussing moral dilemmas of this kind with say Martin Amis? Menzies Campbell (who was an Olympian)? Vaclav Havel? Michael Ignatieff? Freddie Flintoff?

The Masaryk quote Ascherson commended to the SNP was: 'Don't be afraid and don't
steal!' You could ask Dwain Chambers if he has seen 'Chariots of Fire'? Eric Liddell was a missionary in China incidentally - during the Japanese occupation - after he refused to run on a Sunday in the Olympics. Does
China remember him I wonder? The ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ's
Sally Magnusson wrote a biography of Eric Liddell and his Olympic medal for the race
he won is on display in Edinburgh University
and will no doubt get a mention in Gordon
Brown's speech in China at the Olympics?

Courage will probably be the theme of that - even though Dwain Chambers like the rest
of Britain would probably rather have state
pensions .........

On the US identity fraud I would be interested to know, if it is known, whether they caught the medium sized fish but can't pin down the big fish - probably organised crime bosses?

Also how seriously does this threaten economic stability as the Beeb say "There are concerns that identity theft is costing the US billions every year."? If its an escalating trend .....

The Chamers case seemed to base on 'the right to work' as in 'the right to compete'?

In her home town of Dundee some of us still think yachtswoman Shirley Robertson
should also have been competing in the
Beijing Olympics after her maternity leave
- but she fell foul of a rule restricting the British team to only one boat didn't she?

Now had there been an independent Scotland or a separate Scottish team
that might not have been a problem?

News from another galaxy?

(my oh-yesh! moment over breakfast)



And, erm, ...

I haven't caught the programme for a few days, so doubtless these issues have been rigorously examined already.
Strange that you don't mention that this 'US' identity fraud was carried out by immigrants. Presumably you prefer to report this sort of thing when it's centred elsewhere, rather than look at the many which take place all over the UK everyday. Leicester Crown Court heard this week how 'student' Abdul Raik cloned 100's of credit cards, in a global fraud linked to a guerilla group in Sri Lanka, on a scale which left scarcely a household in Houghton on the Hill, Leicestershire, unaffected, and scammed £175,000.
Earlier this week, the Today programme plugged an upcoming item on fraudulent immigrant mortgage and loan application rackets, totally playing-down the ethnicity of those involved.
The series of police raids throughout the south of England in July, involving safe-deposit boxes and millions in laundered money, was aimed at an immigrant and ethnic crime-ring, which just might have something to do with the story being dropped out of the media.
The question is not 'how do we take this story on', but why do you not fully report these news stories, and the many like them, and link them to immigration, the No1 political issue?

You have a Dwain Chambers interview? Why not have a phone-vote to ascertain the level of viewer-interest in yet another chunk of coverage being devoted to this self-publicising drug cheat. How much coverage has been given over to neilrobertson's Scottish yachtswoman?

GAGGING *** IT

Ho Grumpy. When something may not be confronted honestly and openly, then the media have a gag for it. You might say: Anathema is such that they 'dare not speak its name'.
The Barry George phenomenon is a symptom of another established ethos that will not have its name spoken.
The same goes for EXACTLY what is found by many to be anathema in the broader expression homosexuality. This too, only has its name spoken when Norman Tebitt is around - the rest is silence. I have not heard either the Pope or the Arch use the definitive term.
Fudge anyone?

Quiz

How many people have the ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ sent to China?

A/over 100?

B/over 200?

c/over 300?

d/over 400?

Grateful to grumpyjon - from what I had read, it wasn't clear to me that all eleven charged were immigrants, or even that all were resident in the US (what with it being labelled an 'international conspiracy).

Your man Gonzalez may have been an immigrant, I just don't know (but if he was, he would have been a welcome immigrant when he was an FBI informant), but I wonder where you got your information on Christopher Scott and Damon Patrick? Where were they immigrants from?

Oh dear. I've just been to the Department of Justice website. Looks like, of the eleven charged, 6 weren't even resident in the US!

Makes you wonder on what other occasions you just make stuff up, doesn't it?

LEMMINGS: GUILT BY OMISSION

Discouraging immigration is unlikely to be favoured given that both EU and USA administrators believe their countries need a massive influx of immigrants to compensate for their below replacement level birth rates. The fact that most of the breeders who are likely to want to migrate will inevitably be relatively 'low-skilled' (and easily pleased/milked) and that one can't redress that for ether they or their progeny through education doesn't SEEM to have been grasped by enough of the people who advocate this 'solution' to our self-extinction even though one might have thought they would have been made aware of the longer term consequences for crime and social disorder and thus the economy.

So I consider them as guilty of wrecking both the EU and USA.

Look at this table, and apart from the obvious (TFR and IQ are highly negatively correlated and IQ and GDP is highly positively correlated), bear in mind that in the case of the few exceptions above 2.1, domestic birth rates above replacement are probably only higher than Russia because large scale immigration raises the TFR.

This is what we SHOULD be very worried about. It's probably al down to female emancipation I am afraid to say. It was NOT a good think in terms of biological fitness,and that's a fact given the data.

Israel might be OK though so it's all OK I guess (although Gaza and the West Bank are giving them a good run for their money!)

But then...I'm repeating myself aren't I..

REPLACEMENT

Just for the record, at 1.1 a population halves in 30 years, at 1.3 it halves in 60 years, anything under 2.1 .... it just takes longer.

Barrie (#1)

It's easy to avoid the Olympics with Alternative Olympics. We did this for several years when I lived in Smarden. The Smarden Olympics were famously held on Jack Offen's land which he generously lent us free of charge. Usual sort of track and field events, 100 yard sprint in water filled wellies, throwing (and catching) the egg, Land Rover pushing, pitching the bale etc. Just got to turn your back on the media madness and please yourselves. Am I being too trivial for this hallowed blog? My point being that just because they peddle the stuff doesn't mean we have to buy. Talking of peddling, it's a good opportunity to get the bike out and go for a gentle spin. Olympics on TV? Don' see it as a problem, see it as an opportunity!

BETTER NOW

Thanks NewFazer. That has a Spirit of the Blitz feel about it. Here I go - whistling Colonel Bogey . . .

Yup JJ! Repetition R U (and me). But you will not be rightly accused of hesitation (being a sin bin regular) or deviation (other than standard).

God's in 'Dawkins Heaven' and all's right with my world.

PS Gordon has gone for nuclear - Mombiot has gone for nuclear. When Gordon is booted, does he get to make a few knights on the way out? Arise Sir George.

(#11) The table:



Most people just don't seem to get it.

Barry I couldn't agree more with your first comment. I was surprised when I heard that the olympics haven't started yet- I thought they've been going on for months!

I'd like to take the opportunity to ask Mr Chambers the following questions:
- Does he regret being as brutally honest as he was following his original doping offence? Many finding themselves in similar positions remain in denial and their climb back to grace appears so much easier than the constant battering he has taken. Likewise his comments to Matthew Pinsent in the infamous " You can't win without drugs" interview. That scandalised the whole of the sanctimonious brigade and alienated many "elite" athletes who prefer that the rose-tinted spectacles remain firmly in place. In hindsight, if he had remained in denial about his own doping offence and those of his then sprint peers, does he not think he would be on that plane to Beijing now. Hypocrisy is the real by-law here - pity Chambers didn't heed it!

MESSAGE TO LORD (help us) COE

Increasingly, that which resides in, or stands upon, these islands belongs to foreigners. Many of our athletes depend on recently imported 'blood' and spend much of their time training in foreign lands. Add to this a powerless queen and government that has gifted us to the EU project, and then explain to me why anyone can count, with a straight face, the number of medals WON BY BRITAIN? We can no longer DEFINE Britain let alone the Britishness beloved of pathetic Gordon. I caught Seb Coe declaring what a bright lot athletes are, on Sunday. Well Seb: get all the bright athletes together, bypass the dodgy IOC, and regenerate the Games in their original spirit (individuals to compete AS THEMSELVES without affiliation) - or just abandon them.

Re-10. DrKF77.
Sincere apologies for misleading you in my earlier post. I was trying to pack my car while listening to 'Today' this am and clearly got this one wrong. Entirely my mistake. But as the man said when asked why he spent time checking out 9/11 for signs of a Govt conspiracy, "We've been lied to so many times by our Govt, I've come to assume it."
Delighted to hear that you check my stuff so closely. So you'll know it's not made up. Would be easier for all concerned if the media covered all the news wouldn't it? Isn't that kind of what they're supposed to do?
So to top up a recent run-through of stories we're not being told enough about, you might prefer the case of the white Scots lad who was a witness in the prosecution of an asian gang for the racially motivated murder of 15 year old Kriss Donald, being stabbed as he sat in his car at traffic lights, by someone described as an asian? No doubt you remember that this entirely innocent lad was tortured, stabbed, set on fire, and left to die. The media in England appears to have decided to ignore this latest stabbing, much as they ignored the original murder case, which they blacked out for a year, as I remember it, although of course, one has other things to do besides teasing the real news out of 'our' media.
In your capacity as arbiter of what's real, and what made up, I'm surprised that I can't remember you objecting to this.

Re #8. Hi Barrie and thanx. Your scholarship is spades better than mine; so was it Rothermere who said "The news is what someone doesn't want you to know; the rest is just Press?" Or something similar.

SCHOLARSHIP - MOI?

I am more a Windermere fan than a Rothermere aficionado.

what have we done? After the interview with Dwain Chambers I think we have made a colossal mistake, this man should be out there winning medals for Britain. These games will turn out to be the biggest farce in the history of the Olympiad, as they are all at it, just watch as a day after medal ceremonies drug cheats will be found. We, at least can content ourselves that we are clean.....but came last.

No worries, grumpy-jon, you had to find a way to introduce your tendentious narrative somehow, and an outright falsehood seems as good a way as any.

As I live in Scotland, I recall a fair amount of coverage of the Kriss Donald stories, concerning as they did what was described as Scotland's first racially aggravated murder. So I had no objection to make.

Maybe there is some sort of conspiracy of silence in the media - but up here, I rather think you'd find many people arguing that that 'conspiracy' is that of the Anglo-centrism of the media, rather than what you suggest.

I'm not an arbiter of what's true and what's not - I just don't like to see people peddling untruths for rhetorical purposes.

Re #23 DrKF77.
I'm not of course, peddling anything. And sadly, one needs no excuse to uncover the multicultural propaganda, cover-up of the immigrant crime wave, and suppression of other views, that characterise the media and Govt. output. You just need to turn on R4 every morning and you'll find it. I don't doubt that in Scotland, this has included the Anglo-centric analysis you mention.
I assume you in Scotland had your full share of coverage on the Stephen Lawrence murder. My point is that, in England, we heard very little of the Kriss Donald murder, or of the recent stabbing.
In fact, since you presumably heard more about this latest case before the rest of us, I'm surprised that you didn't high-light for us, to give the rounded news picture, any fair minded person would want.