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Well Murray, I still think Martin W. @ Maclaren 7 should pack his bags,
There is no Kiwi magic there, no balls, & Lewis & Jenson are not Fernando's or MS's.
I guess the share structure has proved their downfall.

Funny really it's been the best season ever, uptil now, If FA wins it'll be the 'worst'

It would be great if all 4/5 could share it as they have made it a good year together, not as individuals.

Hope Lewis has a VG race, & spends the winter sorting his head out.

Maybe the Brazilian Grand Prix wasn't very exciting for most people, but at least Jenson Button seemed to enjoy it. He gained many places and had fun overtaking.

Brilliant possible scenario at Abu Dhabi

Vettel leading Webber. If Webber wins he is champion:

"Ok, Mark is faster than you, can you confirm you understood the message?"

Another brilliant possible scenario.

Alonso's engine blows up.
Vettel and Webber race it out for the win and take each othe out.

Hamilton takes the lead and wins the chamionship.

A long shot but with FA low on engines and a clear disliking toward one another between Vettel and Webber it's very possible.

Just let it be exciting and not have it like Bahrain... that would just be a huge anti-climax to the season

In the beginning, there was racing. And the drivers did pass and re-pass each other on the same lap, and the disciples did verily moisten their loin-cloths, and the news was shed abroad of the mighty battles of the Villeneuve-arnoux and the Senna-mansell.
And it came to pass that no longer did the drivers pass and re-pass each other on the same lap, instead they placed their faith in the false gods, the gods of the pit lane strategy. And the first disciples wept, while the new disciples danced their tiny dances.
And in the last, dark days the lords of the sacred laws did brake the false, fallen gods of the pit lane strategy leaving them powerless before the new gods; the prophets. And the prophets forsook the racing, and the passing and re-passing on the same lap, and they prophesied ceaselessly and unendingly about the drivers mathematical probabilities. And the first disciples rent their colthes, and the second disciples danced not - but wept. And the third young disciples sang a new song of love for the endless prohpecies, never knowing the passing and the re-passing on the same lap, or the pit lane strategies. And the third disciples despised in their hearts the return of the messiah in those days and worshipped the holy Ham of God and placed their faith in empty Vettels.

Have to agree that the attacks in Brazil (Sauber crew also got attacked) really do put the race in jeopardy. It would be a shame to lose such a great track, but when teams and media are put in mortal danger, the venue has to be put in danger of being axed, especially when there are plenty of other countries wanting to host a GP, including the USA. With a US grand prix and a Canadian grand prix, do we really need to return to Brazil?

I also read today that Vettel has hinted that he would help Webber if he were in a position to do so. It certainly seems probable that Vettel will influence the outcome of the championship, but something makes me doubt it will be Webber that benefits from Vettel's actions. Since Webber has speculated that he may leave the team, it is understandable that the team would want the champion to be the driver who is most likely to stay with the team and Webber's comments to the media can only serve to antagonise the situation at Red Bull.

As much as I would love to see Mark win the championship, I do think that his comments may well come back to haunt him after the flag falls this weekend.

I can see it now, Vettel will be winning with Webber 2nd and Alonso 3rd come the last lap, of course Vettel will pull over and let Webber through and Ferrari will lodge a protest.

Should be a great race at the weekend, for me it's between Vettel and Alonso for the title, but don't rule out Hamilton, stranger things have happened. I have a bad feeling for Mark Webber, maybe when he looks back in a few years time he will recognise that he should have kept quiet about his problems with the team until the season finished. Alonso made the same mistake at Mclaren.

Possible scenario
hamilton wins race, vettel finishes 3rd and webber sixth with alonso going out

hamilton wins world championship!!!!

I can see RedBull engineering the win to mark webber, instead of a blatant hand over. We all know about the team orders that have appeared in the past, but Barrichello was not in the title hunt and Felipe Massa was not in the title hunt. In Germany, everyone could see that Ferrari wanted Alonso to win even before the race started.

So what about RedBull? Surely the FIA will have something to say with regards to taking one driver out of pole so the other can win. The fact is, if the race is 1. vettel 2. webber 3. alonso, vettel doesn't have enough points to win the championship, therefore he is not worthy of the title. And Webber is not faster than his team mate and can only win if he is handed the win by his team mate, therefore also not worthy of the title. However, Alonso can come 3rd and win the title.

I really want to see Alonso win in Abu Dhabi, or Hamilton, just so that team orders doesn't come into it.
If RedBull change their modus operandi to favour one driver, then they have effectively shot themselves in the foot. This whole season they have had the greatest integrity by saying their drivers are equal. All that stands for nothing if on the final lap they tell Vettel to allow Webber past. It's probably worse than Ferrari.
If they keep things how they are, they will preserve this integrity, they have already won the constructors championship. It's just pointless for them to change at the last minute, they should have done this at Japan, Korea and Brazil.

Instead, RedBull stand to jeopardise the world title. How will Webber feel, knowing that he only won the championship by the help of his team mate? He would technically be champion, but Vettel will surely always have the upper hand showing that he gifted it to him.

It really will be a shame if Webber wins it. He's such a standard driver. Who was he before this year? A standard average joe driver with no flare or flamboyance. Button was a standard driver with a standard team, but managed a win, and he had this playboy image that made him interesting. Surely Alonso winning at Ferrari would be the best story: best all round driver wins his third championship with the world best and most famous F1 team. If he wins, its going to show that he has the power and drive of a world champion. If Mark Webber wins, it shows that you can make a lot of sloppy mistakes and be gifted the championship by your team mate. If Vettel wins, fair play, he should have won it already. Has anyone added up the points he has given away from mechanical errors?

Going back to the subject of Brazil, Murray, I fall into Bernie's camp on that one (and I really, REALLY, cant believe I just said that!!).

Got to put it into context. I live in a city of the UK that has had a bad reputation for gun violence in the past decade. Lucas Di Grassi got his watch stolen from him. By all accounts there was no violence involved, just the threat and assumption that violence would be offered if Di Grassi took the path of resistance.

Now I could take you to some area's in my city where violence would be offered as the first course of action, just to let you know that resisting is definitely not an option.

There are bad people the world over. You just have to keep it in perspective.

I dont see how 'Brazil needs to toughen up it's act'?
-If only things were that simple. After all..thats LIFE unfortunately especially in certain parts of the world where families live in a cardboard box, if their lucky.

In fact in a sense Formula 1 needs to toughen up it's act - I wonder how these poor down-troden residents in the favelas feel watching the world's richest sport, full of the world's richest people pour into their backyard for 3 days every year. Maybe F1 isnt doing enough for these unfortunate people behind the fences?

I'm sure the world's richest people in the richest sport can afford extra security at worst. Or even better maybe Formula 1 can do much more to help the local communities especially in poverty stricken countries where just outside the GP circuit fences are shanti-towns and favelas etc - Its all about winning hearts and minds as well as respecting fellow man. For example setting up local youth programs & incentive schemes in track-marshal training and experience with opportunities to marshal under guidance during a GP weekend.

F1 & sport are probably the most powerful tools to be able to unite all walks of like - Tools like these will only work if used properly.

Just did a quick search.. for 3 races this year Vettel has been in the lead and retired due to mechanical failure, Bahrain, Oz and Korea.. so that is possible 3 wins he could have had.. 2 races he blew it himself, Turkey against Mark and Spa against Button...
So he could possibly have had 7 wins already this year if you just include where he lost due to reliability

11. At 6:11pm on 10 Nov 2010, Dave wrote:

It really will be a shame if Webber wins it. He's such a standard driver. Who was he before this year? A standard average joe driver with no flare or flamboyance. Button was a standard driver with a standard team, but managed a win, and he had this playboy image that made him interesting.

Wow. Mark Webber seems to ruffle your feathers. But before drawing premature conclusions, you might want to research his achievements first!

Mark Webber has succeeded on the old-school path - where most unfortunately do not. He's made his way through the ranks the hard way - proving himself time and again.

If there is a 'standard' driver with this years top 5, then I'm sorry to say, it is Jenson all the way. Lots of hot air, but delivers little... Lewis has his measure time and again - who incidentally is a worthy champion, should Mark not win it this year.