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Football has become to expensive for the ordinary working man , i,ve been going to watch Celtic for 40 years or so ,when i was younger you could lift in kids for free saving there parents money ,if i want to take my grandkids now its costing me the best part of 拢15 each and theres 2 of them so far , my season ticket costs me 拢565 , which i pay in 1 lump sum beginning of the season ,but i feel as though agents are just another burden on the game

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The problem with agents is how they are paid, not whether they provide a useful service. They should not be paid by clubs.

Jack

You ask 鈥� 鈥淭he question is if prices are high to justify wages to players, who is responsible-agents or the clubs who agree to inflated salaries?鈥�

For me it鈥檚 a 鈥楴o Brainer鈥�. It鈥檚 the clubs. They pay they money after all and they should be spending what they can鈥檛 afford.

An up front policy on wages would sort all of this nonsense.

You also wrote 鈥� 鈥渨hen I was first courted by an agent I looked upon it as an acceptance of good performances鈥�

If footballers had a Professional Body that was the true marker for performance and ability you wouldn鈥檛 need an agent to promote you.

Contract negotiations could and should be provided by your Trade Union.

The economies of scale from these approaches would surely benefit everyone and reduce the pressure on gate prices.

As for a Finder鈥檚 fee, that is also a matter between the club and the agent.

I鈥檝e always seen agents as predatory opportunists, little more than a glorified scout and certainly not good for the long term health of the game.

Their modus operandi is divide and conquer, and it is time that players started initiatives for their own collective good.

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Well said and I'm in almost total agreement.

Their modus operandi is indeed divide and conquer and you would think that contractually the PFA would be better placed than some 'carpetbaggers' to handle negotiations between players and clubs.

We have all seen the role of agents in 'hiking' transfers as much for their own benefit as for the player. Wayne Rooney? And Nicholas Anelka whose early career was punctuated by 'financial' moves that also made his agent (his brother) very large pots of money. Now while I have every sympathy with players testing and then appreciating their 'market value', agents have a direct interest in stimulating transfers which may well be at odds with the interests of their own clients and the clubs.

Agents just do their job, they are to blame for nothing.

If a player who has no experience in contract negotiations goes into the managers office, he will feel uncomfortable and get a worse contract than he deserves.

The only reason agents came into the game was because the clubs were fleecing the players.

Its supply and demand. Im disgusted by the wages, but us punters pay at the gate every week.

Im disgusted by ticket prices, but i still pay to go!

Thus, supply and demand.

The demand is so high that prices can be high too, unfortunately.

Until fans start talking with their feet, nothing will ever change.

A lot of very sensible comments made such as clubs cutting their cloth to suit their player's wage demands, getting players to pay their agents purely from their own pocket etc, but these issues would only ever be resolved if there was greater conformity in the financial running of the game (worldwide) and this will never happen.

In a free market players like Rooney and Beckham will demand excessive wages and add-ons simply because of the media attention they grab (often for negative stories) whilst players at the other end of the scale just interested in football continue to flap around simply to find a decent club and wage.

Agents have become too showbiz in a media driven world and even you Jack talk about the 'Kudos' and 'Glamour' attraction. That's why the average 'JoC' doesn't respect or like them.

Your right Jack when you say there are good and bad agents, but I'm firmly in the camp that believe there are significiantly more bad than good ones.
Obviously they are not to blame for all thats currently wrong with the game, they are just part of the problem and a symptom of the sky/premier league era.
As you said before the money that goes around at the top of the game is so large that sometime those kinds of people are needed to negotiate a secure future for the players.
What concerns me is agents coming in to the lower regions of the game, like the conference or the lower reaches of the sfl, convincing those players that they need an agent, negotiating a new contract and effectively taking away that payrise with there commission.
This happened to a friend of mine 2 years ago and he's still paying for it.

Agents are a useful scapegoat for players' greed.

In recent times the new 'player' voice I was listening to on Radio was immediately intriguing to me, moreover perhaps because it offered a slightly uncommon level of articulation alongside a commentary that was consistently and cohesively strung together in triple sentence paragraphs!

I was interested to know who this latest luminary was!

To learn it was yourself probably motivated me to nosily visit your blog Jack just as I was exiting my latest visit to the 成人快手 football website.

Your contribution on agents and their influence on the game caught my eye, most notably because as one the UK's longest-serving licensed agents myself, some of the observations you made were not only completely & interestingly accurate to me but were also, not exactly 'mainstream' views that I've ever seen 'aired' before.

I therefore thought that this was worthy of endorsement by someone like me - from the other side of the fence if you like and so for the first time ever, I'd like to offer your readers my own thoughts on the subject.

With all these compliments flying around let me continue in that vein just a wee while longer by saying that I thought that your perspective was as insightful and balanced as I've heard from any player in all my near twenty years as a working agent and so just wanted to say so!

There are many things to say about the general reputation we agents carry and indeed this is best amplified within the variety of additional comments on offer from some of your other contributors on the subject.

Let me immediately say that there of course good and bad agent/operators - as there are in all walks of life 'tho regretably, and I will concede this, that through the popularity and publicity our sport enjoys, we do seem to attract more than our fair share of inexperienced, unprofessional and even unsavoury people who offer little more than confidence and arrogance as they enter an arena where vulnerable victims are ten-a penny and where they will be able to exercise their own agenda way ahead of the people they purport to represent conscientiously!

However, and as you highlighted, sometimes.. no,strike that, on many occasions, it can be the case that the media will regularly choose to hang the agent out to dry simply because it's the easier and softer option to choose for any writer who is more anxious to retain his otherwise 'cosy' relationship with the Player/Manager or Club in question!

But there is another point to highlight here Jack and it relates to your passing inference and comments on what it actually means to a player and/or his parents in terms of their association with an agent!

In my experience, I have long-since questioned and indeed challenged the motives of the player himself - particularly a young player - I'm interviewing, on what their rationale is for having an agent, of what their understanding is of why they might have or indeed need an agent or perhaps most important of all...of what they EXPECT from the agent or from the association/relationship itself!

The answer to the last question is without doubt the most illuminating of all because if you are indeed favoured with a concise and clear response from either the player and/or his guardian, this WILL go a long to revealing how 'real' or maybe that should be how 'long' your involvement with that player will be!

Confidence is a very necessary component for any player but over- confidence or 'stratospheric-like' confidence is a different type of problem for the player - or the father of the player - who believes he is Man.Utd, when everyone else knows he's more Rotherham Utd, is a problem that sometimes that will forever remain unresolved...until of course it's too late!

It's easy to immediately contend that if a contract is to be negotiated or if there's a need to promote your name to another Club for example, then an agent connection is obvious. However, and as you so succinctly put it via your reference on how some representatives are often nothing more than fair-weather friends who's only obvious immediate talent is that of being able to gain the player free entry to a nightclub, then surely the player and his parents method of selection is the thing that needs to be highlighted more robustly here!

A huge number of players think that having an agent is akin to all those other must-have 'ancillaries' - you know what I mean...the things that make you a perceived 'Star', things like rainbow coloured boots, BIG watches, tattoos, extreme haircuts and oh, maybe even a WAG or two!

I know this all sounds more than a little cynical but with decades of experience behind me I've witnessed many things in players' careers and sadly most have been heavily infiltrated by 'junk' influences instead of good old-fashioned staples such as application and self-disciplne with just a smidgeon of humility thrown in!

I welcome the fact that you offered an 'inside' perspective on this and as such trust you may likewise welcome my own thoughts from a slightly different one.


Cheers



Raymond Sparkes