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Farm Raves
Imagine the scene. It's two in the morning and blaring music keeps you awake. You look out of your window and see a mass of ravers partying on your land. You summon the police and they arrive 20 minutes later.

What would you expect them to do? It's your land, the party-goers are there without your permission and you can already imagine how much clearing up awaits you when they depart. You might well expect the police to send the ravers on their way.

Wrong. Not if the case of David Benton is anything to go by. A farmer in Lincolnshire, we brought you his story last week. On New Year's Eve, his farm was invaded by dozens of ravers who broke down a gate so they could drive lorries onto his property.

They took over one of his buildings and installed a sound system for a 12-hour rave without his permission.

But when Mr Benton called police to intervene they told him that they couldn't do anything. They said there were less than 100 people at the party and so legally no offence was being committed.

"I said people have caused criminal damage to my property. I said I would like them removed from my property", Mr Benton told the programme. "The police just stood around and the girls had their arms around them."

Many of our listeners were shocked. The decision seemed to fly in the face of common sense.

But Mr Benton's experience turned out to be nothing compared to what happened to Graeme Stephen. He emailed us because he'd found himself in a similar position - calling the police to move ravers off his land.

Mr Stephen had had this problem before - and didn't think the police would take any action. In this case, however, they did. They arrested Mr Stephen.

"The question is what are the police there to do? Are they there to protect people in terms of property, or is property irrelevant - in which case mob rule applies", Mr Stephen told us.

The Today Programme received hundreds of emails on the subject, and our listeners were divided. Some were astonished at what the police had done - and even had their own examples.

Philip Goodall from Buckinghamshire had found police reluctant to evict hundreds of people at a party in his warehouse because there were "too many people".

But others defended the police. Sue Matthews of Lancashire, who insists she is "not a police officer - or anything to do with them", said the police did act correctly because "protection of property cannot take priority over public safety". Dave Bancroft of Milton Keynes agreed.

"Any heavy-handed approach would have caused trouble and not 'kept the peace'," he argued.

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Farmers should cease their inccessant whining and use the raves for profit. People will always want to rave - the urge to dance to a beat has been inherited from as far back as the stone age, and no amount of heavyhandedness will ever stop them. For once, congratulations have to be given to the Constabulary, as in a rare incident they actually used common sense over the law book.

Jack Harris, Shropshire livestock holder.

How the pendulum has swung the other way. When I was young man in Lincolnshire in the 60s, the local paper reported a police raid on a properly organised Young Farmer's Club party to search for pot smokers. None were found, but the police justified their action when it turned out that some of the lads had contraceptives concealed on their persons. Shock horror!
Jack Badley

Farmers keep telling us that their communities have had a rotten time financially. So you would think that having 6,000 young people at one rave and 50 at another all with disposable cash that they would be over the moon. Instead of bothering the police, the farmer could have, for a small fee, prepared bacon, egg and sausage sandwiches, which always go down well after an all-night rave. I say bravo the Police for applying good reason and sense to the situation.
Philip Collins

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