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Can a racist ever change?

A former neo-Nazi has told ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ Radio 5 Live about the process of deradicalisation and how he began to think differently about racism.

Tony McAleer said to Chris Warburton on 5 Live Drive: "Racism comes from a lack of compassion and understanding of others and the self".

The former skinhead said that it was the birth of his two children that gave him his first "real taste of compassion" and admitted this was when he "put someone else's interests before his own" for the first time in his life.

Mr McAleer, who was the leader of Canada's largest neo-Nazi group, has devoted his life to helping others leave extremist organisations.

He emphasised that having a full understanding of himself and his relationship with trauma was key.

"Until I could repair the relationship with myself, it wasn’t until then that I could begin to see the humanity in others" he added.

This clip was originally broadcast on ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ Radio 5 Live Drive on Friday 12 June 2020.

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