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'...99 percent of the game is volunteers, mums, dads, aunties, uncles, families...'
Rugby isn't being played at the moment.
The leagues below the Championship have ended their seasons. The Premiership and the 6 Nations still need to be resolved.
Meanwhile, clubhouses are shut, income is non-existent and players are taking pay cuts.
So what about the future of the game?
成人快手 Radio Cornwall's Sports Producer Ross Ellis has been hearing from Cornish rugby legend Phil Vickery, Newlyn's England international Jack Nowell and Cornwall's Twickenham hero in 2019, Matt Shepherd.
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