When Margaret Met Carl: Music Therapy
How does music affect the mind? Writer Amanda Dalton considers how music can reach people when nothing else can, inspired by Margart Tilly, music therapist and concert pianist.
Writer and music lover Amanda Dalton’s childhood was dominated by her love of playing the piano and loathing of the intensive psychoanalytical psychotherapy she underwent for five years. Coupled with her long personal interest in how the brain and the body work together, this series takes an unusual look at music.
The essays focus on human stories exploring interactions between music and a troubled mind, discussing some of the key historical and current thinking regarding the relationships between creative individuals with mental health challenges or damaged minds - and music. Some of these will be well known, some less so – all afford rich material to explore the themes. Always returning to the human and personal story, the series references the research and insights of neuroscientists and psychologists, such as Daniel Levitin, Oliver Sacks and Anthony Storr. As arguably the birthplace of psycho analysis and home to a multitude of iconic classical musicians – the starting point is Vienna.
Essay 3: When Margaret met Carl: Music Therapy
Music Therapy and Music as therapy. This essay springs from the story of music therapist and concert pianist Margaret Tilly and her meeting with psychiatrist and analyst Carl Jung, who underwent a session of music therapy with her and championed her work on musical analysis and the treatment of her patients. It also looks at the intensely moving story and footage, which went viral in 2021, of Spanish ballerina Marta C Gonzalez - living with late-stage Alzheimer’s but responding instinctively as her arms and facial expressions re-enact the grace of her dancing Tchaikovsky’s Swan Lake. How does music reach us in a way that words cannot? How is it that musical expression often remains possible long after brain injury and illness has rendered other forms of communication impossible?
Amanda Dalton is a playwright, poet and essayist. She has three poetry collections with Bloodaxe Books, most recently Fantastic Voyage (2024). Smith|Doorstop published a pamphlet of two long poems, Notes on Water, a version of which she re-created for two voices and soundscape for ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ Radio 3’s Between the Ears.
Amanda writes extensively for ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ Radio 3 and 4 including original drama, poetry-dramas, re-imaginings of silent movies and classic film, lyric essays and adaptations of fiction. Her theatre writing also includes text for outdoor and site-specific performance, and work for young people with commissions from Manchester’s Royal Exchange, Sheffield Theatres and Keswick’s Theatre By The Lake.
Until 2019 she was a senior leader at the Royal Exchange Theatre where she also worked as an Associate Artist, theatre maker and project director, in partnership with communities across the North West and beyond.
Alongside her work as a writer, Amanda designs and delivers a wide range of writing workshops, mentors a number of poets and playwrights, and regularly curates and co-delivers collaborative cross-artform projects, most recently with Wainsgate Dances, Manchester Camerata and Quarantine.
Her website is https://www.amandadalton.co.uk
Writer and reader: Amanda Dalton
Producer: Polly Thomas
Sound: Alisdair McGregor
Exec Producer: Chantal Herbert
A Thomas Carter Project production for ³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ Radio 3.
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