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Can you smash the gangs to stop the boats?

Nick joins Amol from the busiest border crossing in Europe to discuss the realities of tackling illegal migration and what it鈥檚 like taking Today on the road.

Keir Starmer has said Labour will 鈥渟mash the gangs鈥 to stop the small boats carrying migrants across the Channel, so Nick joins Amol from the busiest border crossing in Europe to discuss whether that鈥檚 really possible.

They hear from Syrian men living in a Bulgarian refugee camp and meet a sniffer dog who can detect rubber boats being taken across the border. Plus, they answer your questions about the issues raised in Nick鈥檚 reporting and what it鈥檚 like taking Today on the road.

The Today Podcast is hosted by Amol Rajan and Nick Robinson who are both presenters of 成人快手 Radio 4鈥檚 Today programme. Amol was the 成人快手鈥檚 media editor for six years and is the former editor of the Independent, he鈥檚 also the current presenter of University Challenge. Nick has presented the Today programme since 2015, he was the 成人快手鈥檚 political editor for ten years before that and also previously worked as ITV鈥檚 political editor.

To get Amol and Nick's take on the biggest stories and insights from behind the scenes at the UK's most influential radio news programme make sure you subscribe on 成人快手 Sounds. That way you鈥檒l get an alert every time we release a new episode, and you won鈥檛 miss our extra bonus episodes either.

The Today Podcast was made by Lewis Vickers with Nadia Gyane and Joe Wilkinson in London and Jade Bogart-Preleur and Oscar Pearson in Bulgaria. The technical producers were Philip Bull and Joe Lawrence. The editor is Louisa Lewis. The executive producer is Owenna Griffiths.

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