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Christmas Father: Lars Petter Sveen
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Lars Petter Sveen Christmas memories of a Christian child growing up in an atheist family. His father wouldn't even allow a star on their Christmas tree, so coming out as a Christian was going to be difficult. Producer: Phil Pegum. Translated by Deborah Dawkin.
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Christmas Eve 2015
22:45
成人快手 Radio 3
My Father's Belief
Every year my father said No. There was no way we were going to have a star at the top of our Christmas tree. Stars were a Christian idea.鈥淲e鈥檙e going to have a light at the top of our tree,鈥 he鈥檇 say, 鈥渁 light symbolising the turning of the sun.鈥滷or father when we lit the Christmas tree we were celebrating the fact that lighter days were on their way.鈥淚n ancient times in Norway the tradition was to celebrate the winter solstice,鈥 he said 鈥渘ot Christmas in Jesus鈥檚 name and three wise men on camels crossing the desert.鈥
I grew up in a small place on the West coast of Norway called Fr忙na. My father and mother both went out to work, so I had to go to nursery, but the only available nursery was Christian. But my father was an atheist and an outspoken critic of Christianity. He was dubious, if not downright antagonistic towards the idea that his middle son would learn to pray and sing songs about Jesus and Zacchaeus up in his sycamore tree. But since there was no alternative, off I went.聽
When I came home that first week and demanded that we sing grace at table before supper, father put down his knife and his fork and leaned back in his chair. He looked across the table at the fried Pollack and onions and boiled potatoes as though he were giving them a close inspection. Then he looked up at me.鈥淥K,鈥 he said, 鈥測ou go ahead and sing.鈥澛營 folded my hands and sang about how when God steers the boat all will be well, on the way to the kingdom of heaven.Nobody else sang: neither my father or mother, nor my two brothers.When I鈥檇 finished, my father picked up his knife and fork and proceeded to peal his boiled potatoes. My older brother shook his head.鈥淒o you really believe there鈥檚 a man sitting up there in the sky?鈥漈o a six-year-old boy it was a pertinent question. And I thought: no, not really. It鈥檚 impossible. And so I shrugged my shoulders, and that was that. That was as far as God and Jesus came into our family. The boat had to turn around and find another route up to heaven.
It wasn鈥檛 until later, when I was twenty-one, that I rang home and told my mother and father that I鈥檇 become a Christian. I was a living in Bergen at the time, one of the largest cities in Norway. I was a student and I鈥檇 read S酶ren Kierkegaard. Mother started to cry down the telephone. I was suddenly reminded of something she鈥檇 said to me as a boy. I鈥檇 asked her if she could think of anything that would cause her to turn her back on me, to reject me? She鈥檇 come up with three things: If I got a tattoo, if I was homosexual, or if I became a Christian.When I called home that day, I鈥檇 committed two of those of crimes; I鈥檇 had a tattoo done and become a Christian.鈥淥K, I see,鈥 said my father, laughing a little at my mother鈥檚 tears.I tried to explain, but it was extremely awkward. How do you explain to your father, over the telephone, with your mother yelling and sobbing in the background, why you have become a Christian?鈥淵ou鈥檝e gone crazy,鈥 she screamed.Father tried to hush her.Christianity was brought to Norway by the Viking King, St Olav. 聽St Olav died in 1030 at the battle of Stikklestad, but a year later 鈥 according to the Sagas - when they opened his coffin, his body was intact and his nails and hair had continued to grow. And so he was declared a saint. To this day you find St Olav on our silver spoons and in our national anthem. Norway even has a day named after him.聽There are many stories describing the brutality of his quest to impose Christianity on the people. But we all need to create figureheads and heroes, and the Norwegian nation chose St. Olav, glorifying him and taking him to their hearts.Father wasn鈥檛 going to buy that. For him, King Sverre, who lived from 1150-1202, was the great hero. During his reign King Sverre was often in conflict with the Pope. It was King Sverre, according to my father, whom the nation should revere. A king who stood up to the pope!He took me aside once and said:鈥淎ctually, I wanted to name you after King Sverre.鈥漈his reaction against, or hatred for what Saint Olav and Christianity had done to our country, found expression in other ways in our home too. Father often read us the Norwegian folktales collected by Asbj酶rnsen and Moe. Tales of trolls and giants and magic, that had their roots far back in time. Stories that, according to him, held no less truth than those in the Bible.And he was also passionate in his desire to tell my brothers and me about the Norse gods and the Sagas.
When it thundered we knew that people of old had believed that Thor was riding across the sky in his wagon and striking his hammer. In our imaginations we saw the powerful and one-eyed Odin, the beautiful, ill-fated Baldur, and the terrible jaw-gnashing wolf Fenris.
My favourite was always Loki. The trickster, a cunning demi-god, with giant-blood in his veins, who regularly cheated and betrayed the gods. When I see the Marvel films about Thor and the Avengers now, I can鈥檛 help but feel sympathy for Tom Hiddlestone鈥檚 Loki. It鈥檚 not easy to explain that to my children. For them Loki is nothing but an evil super-villain. But for me he is a complex figure, the most human of all the gods, who encapsulates the battle between good and evil within us all.聽
It wasn鈥檛 that my father believed in the Norse gods, or that he encouraged us to. Nobody believes in the Norse gods any longer, but they are nonetheless deeply rooted in the Norwegian psyche. What was important to him was that we should know and preserve our history and heritage.聽
Father, like any good atheist, had a strong preference for scientific explanations. Yet he often told us stories that were far removed from anything based in reality or fact. Early one June morning as he sat out in the garden eating breakfast with my brothers and I, he told us where the dew in the grass came from. It is a long story in which Loki鈥檚 evil trickery has resulted in the death of Baldur. This story contains many explanations for natural phenomena, including why the salmon is long and slender. And the dew? In a quest to bring Balder back from the underworld every single thing in the world has to cry. Even the rocks and the flowers and the grass cry. Which is why there is dew in the mornings, everything is crying to bring the beautiful, much loved Baldur back from the dead.
None of us believed in the story, but we all remember it. And now, whenever I run across a lawn in the early morning and feel my shoes getting wet, I think: the world is crying.
Since Fr忙na was such a small community, it was common knowledge that our family weren鈥檛 Christian. In the eighties the word atheist was foreign to many people. I felt that all the mothers kept a close eye on me when I visited my friends鈥 houses or went to birthday parties. Once I was sent home from a party for using a mild swear word 鈥渟teike鈥 鈥 one of those words generations of kids have used just because it sounds so good, but it鈥檚 pretty harmless. Another time a friend wouldn鈥檛 let me see what he was reading, because his mother came into the room and said 鈥渄on鈥檛 show that to Lars Peter, he doesn鈥檛 believe in things like that.鈥
But the other kids swore as much as I did. And most of my class seemed even less interested in our bible classes than I was. When my father decided that I should be taken out of bible classes and be taught 聽鈥渓ivssyn鈥 鈥 classes that explored varied beliefs and philosophies 鈥 it seemed pretty cool. My friends called me over and asked me how I鈥檇 managed to get let off. Perhaps they could get out of bible classes too?I grew up and was proud of my father. My friends and I went to school, played football, watched films, played, ran about in the forest and went fishing. Nobody talked about Jesus, nobody ever said I ought to go to church more often. Religion simply wasn鈥檛 an issue. And neither was it an issue at home 鈥 I鈥檇 put God aside, and I certainly never sang grace again. I grew up and I was proud of my father because I could see he was well liked. He was a popular teacher at the secondary school where he taught. He conducted the local choir that often sang in the church on special occasions. He鈥檇 even help out at my football club, despite his total disinterest in football.
My father may have been a well-liked man in the community, but the school鈥檚 board, and some of his colleagues, were deeply suspicious of his beliefs. He was a member of the Norwegian Humanist Association, who argued for secular education and rituals. An organisation who suggested that baptisms should be replaced with naming ceremonies, and Christian confirmation replaced by civil confirmation. And who fought for the rights of students to be allowed, if they wished, to be released from bible classes and to choose to attend 鈥渓ivssyn鈥 classes instead.聽
These things are taken for granted in Norway now, and bible study has largely been replaced with something more like my old classes in 鈥渓ivssyn鈥. But in the eighties, when Father first arrived, the ideas he expressed were unusual on the West coast of Norway, a religiously conservative part of the country.
When Father received a visit from a well-known TV personality who was active in the Norwegian Humanist Association, the Headmaster refused to let the students meet him. Father was given strict orders that a man of that sort wasn鈥檛 to be allowed anywhere near the classrooms.
During staff meetings Father was often heavily criticised by colleagues who thought that his 鈥渦nchristian talk鈥 didn鈥檛 belong in the school.聽
But time moves on. 聽And when the wall fell in Berlin in 1989, it wasn鈥檛 just Europe that opened up, but Norway too. Norway shares a 120 mile border with Russia to the North, and with the fall of the Soviet Union an external political pressure was lifted. In turn this caused some of the old restrictions within Norwegian society to be loosened. 聽This had a huge impact on the status of Christianity in Norway. In many ways Father was a forerunner of that change.聽But how to interpret it, when your own son has become a Christian?
Father has never confronted me about my beliefs. Now and then our different perspectives on life, as he calls them, spark off against each other. When he and my mother come to visit us and we sing grace, he sits in silence. And this is a man who usually can鈥檛 resist breaking out into song.聽When we decorate the Christmas tree in my childhood home, he still refuses to have a star on the top and insists on having a light there instead 鈥 the light that symbolises the turning of the sun.聽
Recently my oldest son declared that he no longer believes in God. I asked my son why, and he replied that his granddad had told him about the Norse gods. Granddad had said that human beings have always invented gods in their need to believe, and that Jesus just happened to be the Christian god. 鈥淪o I don鈥檛 believe in a God,鈥 said my son, 鈥渋t鈥檚 all just an invention, whatever.鈥
I let it pass for now. He鈥檚 bound to struggle with his beliefs. 聽I let it pass, because my father has always let me go my own way. Throughout his life he met with opposition to his beliefs. And throughout his life he fought for our right not to have other people鈥檚 beliefs forced on us. Perhaps that鈥檚 why he gave me the freedom to doubt my way to my own beliefs.
After all, when, as a little boy, I asked to sing grace at table, my father let me do it. He didn鈥檛 tell me to be quiet. He told me to go ahead and sing. 聽And if I look very carefully now, the little light at the top of the tree looks just like a shimmering star.
I grew up in a small place on the West coast of Norway called Fr忙na. My father and mother both went out to work, so I had to go to nursery, but the only available nursery was Christian. But my father was an atheist and an outspoken critic of Christianity. He was dubious, if not downright antagonistic towards the idea that his middle son would learn to pray and sing songs about Jesus and Zacchaeus up in his sycamore tree. But since there was no alternative, off I went.聽
When I came home that first week and demanded that we sing grace at table before supper, father put down his knife and his fork and leaned back in his chair. He looked across the table at the fried Pollack and onions and boiled potatoes as though he were giving them a close inspection. Then he looked up at me.鈥淥K,鈥 he said, 鈥測ou go ahead and sing.鈥澛營 folded my hands and sang about how when God steers the boat all will be well, on the way to the kingdom of heaven.Nobody else sang: neither my father or mother, nor my two brothers.When I鈥檇 finished, my father picked up his knife and fork and proceeded to peal his boiled potatoes. My older brother shook his head.鈥淒o you really believe there鈥檚 a man sitting up there in the sky?鈥漈o a six-year-old boy it was a pertinent question. And I thought: no, not really. It鈥檚 impossible. And so I shrugged my shoulders, and that was that. That was as far as God and Jesus came into our family. The boat had to turn around and find another route up to heaven.
It wasn鈥檛 until later, when I was twenty-one, that I rang home and told my mother and father that I鈥檇 become a Christian. I was a living in Bergen at the time, one of the largest cities in Norway. I was a student and I鈥檇 read S酶ren Kierkegaard. Mother started to cry down the telephone. I was suddenly reminded of something she鈥檇 said to me as a boy. I鈥檇 asked her if she could think of anything that would cause her to turn her back on me, to reject me? She鈥檇 come up with three things: If I got a tattoo, if I was homosexual, or if I became a Christian.When I called home that day, I鈥檇 committed two of those of crimes; I鈥檇 had a tattoo done and become a Christian.鈥淥K, I see,鈥 said my father, laughing a little at my mother鈥檚 tears.I tried to explain, but it was extremely awkward. How do you explain to your father, over the telephone, with your mother yelling and sobbing in the background, why you have become a Christian?鈥淵ou鈥檝e gone crazy,鈥 she screamed.Father tried to hush her.Christianity was brought to Norway by the Viking King, St Olav. 聽St Olav died in 1030 at the battle of Stikklestad, but a year later 鈥 according to the Sagas - when they opened his coffin, his body was intact and his nails and hair had continued to grow. And so he was declared a saint. To this day you find St Olav on our silver spoons and in our national anthem. Norway even has a day named after him.聽There are many stories describing the brutality of his quest to impose Christianity on the people. But we all need to create figureheads and heroes, and the Norwegian nation chose St. Olav, glorifying him and taking him to their hearts.Father wasn鈥檛 going to buy that. For him, King Sverre, who lived from 1150-1202, was the great hero. During his reign King Sverre was often in conflict with the Pope. It was King Sverre, according to my father, whom the nation should revere. A king who stood up to the pope!He took me aside once and said:鈥淎ctually, I wanted to name you after King Sverre.鈥漈his reaction against, or hatred for what Saint Olav and Christianity had done to our country, found expression in other ways in our home too. Father often read us the Norwegian folktales collected by Asbj酶rnsen and Moe. Tales of trolls and giants and magic, that had their roots far back in time. Stories that, according to him, held no less truth than those in the Bible.And he was also passionate in his desire to tell my brothers and me about the Norse gods and the Sagas.
When it thundered we knew that people of old had believed that Thor was riding across the sky in his wagon and striking his hammer. In our imaginations we saw the powerful and one-eyed Odin, the beautiful, ill-fated Baldur, and the terrible jaw-gnashing wolf Fenris.
My favourite was always Loki. The trickster, a cunning demi-god, with giant-blood in his veins, who regularly cheated and betrayed the gods. When I see the Marvel films about Thor and the Avengers now, I can鈥檛 help but feel sympathy for Tom Hiddlestone鈥檚 Loki. It鈥檚 not easy to explain that to my children. For them Loki is nothing but an evil super-villain. But for me he is a complex figure, the most human of all the gods, who encapsulates the battle between good and evil within us all.聽
It wasn鈥檛 that my father believed in the Norse gods, or that he encouraged us to. Nobody believes in the Norse gods any longer, but they are nonetheless deeply rooted in the Norwegian psyche. What was important to him was that we should know and preserve our history and heritage.聽
Father, like any good atheist, had a strong preference for scientific explanations. Yet he often told us stories that were far removed from anything based in reality or fact. Early one June morning as he sat out in the garden eating breakfast with my brothers and I, he told us where the dew in the grass came from. It is a long story in which Loki鈥檚 evil trickery has resulted in the death of Baldur. This story contains many explanations for natural phenomena, including why the salmon is long and slender. And the dew? In a quest to bring Balder back from the underworld every single thing in the world has to cry. Even the rocks and the flowers and the grass cry. Which is why there is dew in the mornings, everything is crying to bring the beautiful, much loved Baldur back from the dead.
None of us believed in the story, but we all remember it. And now, whenever I run across a lawn in the early morning and feel my shoes getting wet, I think: the world is crying.
Since Fr忙na was such a small community, it was common knowledge that our family weren鈥檛 Christian. In the eighties the word atheist was foreign to many people. I felt that all the mothers kept a close eye on me when I visited my friends鈥 houses or went to birthday parties. Once I was sent home from a party for using a mild swear word 鈥渟teike鈥 鈥 one of those words generations of kids have used just because it sounds so good, but it鈥檚 pretty harmless. Another time a friend wouldn鈥檛 let me see what he was reading, because his mother came into the room and said 鈥渄on鈥檛 show that to Lars Peter, he doesn鈥檛 believe in things like that.鈥
But the other kids swore as much as I did. And most of my class seemed even less interested in our bible classes than I was. When my father decided that I should be taken out of bible classes and be taught 聽鈥渓ivssyn鈥 鈥 classes that explored varied beliefs and philosophies 鈥 it seemed pretty cool. My friends called me over and asked me how I鈥檇 managed to get let off. Perhaps they could get out of bible classes too?I grew up and was proud of my father. My friends and I went to school, played football, watched films, played, ran about in the forest and went fishing. Nobody talked about Jesus, nobody ever said I ought to go to church more often. Religion simply wasn鈥檛 an issue. And neither was it an issue at home 鈥 I鈥檇 put God aside, and I certainly never sang grace again. I grew up and I was proud of my father because I could see he was well liked. He was a popular teacher at the secondary school where he taught. He conducted the local choir that often sang in the church on special occasions. He鈥檇 even help out at my football club, despite his total disinterest in football.
My father may have been a well-liked man in the community, but the school鈥檚 board, and some of his colleagues, were deeply suspicious of his beliefs. He was a member of the Norwegian Humanist Association, who argued for secular education and rituals. An organisation who suggested that baptisms should be replaced with naming ceremonies, and Christian confirmation replaced by civil confirmation. And who fought for the rights of students to be allowed, if they wished, to be released from bible classes and to choose to attend 鈥渓ivssyn鈥 classes instead.聽
These things are taken for granted in Norway now, and bible study has largely been replaced with something more like my old classes in 鈥渓ivssyn鈥. But in the eighties, when Father first arrived, the ideas he expressed were unusual on the West coast of Norway, a religiously conservative part of the country.
When Father received a visit from a well-known TV personality who was active in the Norwegian Humanist Association, the Headmaster refused to let the students meet him. Father was given strict orders that a man of that sort wasn鈥檛 to be allowed anywhere near the classrooms.
During staff meetings Father was often heavily criticised by colleagues who thought that his 鈥渦nchristian talk鈥 didn鈥檛 belong in the school.聽
But time moves on. 聽And when the wall fell in Berlin in 1989, it wasn鈥檛 just Europe that opened up, but Norway too. Norway shares a 120 mile border with Russia to the North, and with the fall of the Soviet Union an external political pressure was lifted. In turn this caused some of the old restrictions within Norwegian society to be loosened. 聽This had a huge impact on the status of Christianity in Norway. In many ways Father was a forerunner of that change.聽But how to interpret it, when your own son has become a Christian?
Father has never confronted me about my beliefs. Now and then our different perspectives on life, as he calls them, spark off against each other. When he and my mother come to visit us and we sing grace, he sits in silence. And this is a man who usually can鈥檛 resist breaking out into song.聽When we decorate the Christmas tree in my childhood home, he still refuses to have a star on the top and insists on having a light there instead 鈥 the light that symbolises the turning of the sun.聽
Recently my oldest son declared that he no longer believes in God. I asked my son why, and he replied that his granddad had told him about the Norse gods. Granddad had said that human beings have always invented gods in their need to believe, and that Jesus just happened to be the Christian god. 鈥淪o I don鈥檛 believe in a God,鈥 said my son, 鈥渋t鈥檚 all just an invention, whatever.鈥
I let it pass for now. He鈥檚 bound to struggle with his beliefs. 聽I let it pass, because my father has always let me go my own way. Throughout his life he met with opposition to his beliefs. And throughout his life he fought for our right not to have other people鈥檚 beliefs forced on us. Perhaps that鈥檚 why he gave me the freedom to doubt my way to my own beliefs.
After all, when, as a little boy, I asked to sing grace at table, my father let me do it. He didn鈥檛 tell me to be quiet. He told me to go ahead and sing. 聽And if I look very carefully now, the little light at the top of the tree looks just like a shimmering star.
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