成人快手

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
The Crime room is now closed.// Thanks ever so much for your kind comments about the game. I am working on another mystery but it鈥檚 an entirely different ball game but one that I know you鈥檒l really love just the same. It won鈥檛 be out for a while so I am afraid so just keep watching the 成人快手鈥檚 website and you鈥檒l see it.// p.s. Ami if it hadn鈥檛 have been Rebecca your suggestion would be the second most plausible ;-)

Tasha
I thought it was a brilliant game, can u make another? i have a feeling it may be the prof but i cant be 100% thanks i had fun!

sonja
i think that Guy killed Marilyn because he could have been so annoyed with her, so angry he took it out on her, but i cannot rule out Rebecca either because Guy said that Marilyn was popular at school, Rebecca will tell you the same.

lil vix
its so great that ive found out that it was rebecca i feel like great weight has been lifted off my shoulders now it is clear that rebecca is where she velongs-in jail well anyway it was a great game and i enjoyed it

lil vix
i agree with dorcas because i think it is a great game too

ben
Great game very well planned

hannah
i hope u do another game like this it was gr8

Alex C.
I told you guys!!! I told you from the very day one that rebecca did it!!!:):):)

Susie
Absolutely loved this. Got it wrong I thought there would be a sting in the tail and Carl had climbed through the open window whilst Rebecca was canoodling on the phone to the prof. Thanks a lot, when is the next one?

Siobhan
Yey I got it right. What a cool game!!

Emma vowles
that was an excellent game. it relly made me think. and i guessed the murderer and i got it wright. i knew it was rebecca!

Ami
The phone bill shows she was an NTI customer, so she obviously committed suicide.

Kath
Getting arrested is just the beginning, its the jury who decides....

Dorcas (from Uganda)
Great game! Well done.

hg
i know it is her

Ketan
Thanks from me too. It was a great game but I think it could be made more interactive. I too couldnot vote because I am not in Britain. Thanks

Anna-Marie
I agree with CrystalSea and Jon. Thanks for an excellent game, hope there is another one!

Hilda
Thank you for an enjoyable game ! I hope there will be others. I can't vote because I don't live in the UK, but I've enjoyed this ggame very much.

Sam M
Maybe too late to ask questions but...when did Guy's father die? What was his business? How often are the sheets changed on the bed? Seems strange that Guy should have slept in the bed, but left no fingerprints in the room, other than on the door. Could the fluids, or even the sheets, have been planted? The evidence seems to point very clearly to Rebecca having bought the wine, but the phone is right next to the bed. Would she have sat there talking to the professor for nearly an hour after drugging, and perhaps smothering, Marilyn. Could it even have been Marilyn on the phone to the professor? Maybe she called, then lost conciousness, so the phone was left off the hook?Or was the phone call designed to be an alibi for the professor? Since he claims that he was at home with his wife, it seems unlikely that he'd have been on the phone for an hour with either Rebecca or Marilyn. So...no real evidence against Gemma (apart from the drug connection), nothing much against Carl, nothing other than anomolies against Guy. It all points to Rebecca, probably working together with or misguidedly for the professor. I have a hunch that it was Guy, though.

Jon
I would like to add to CrystalSea's sentiments, and say well done to all for a most enjoyable time, thanks Inspector and all contributors. Can we have another?

CrystalSea
Just to say how much I've really enjoyed this case, well done for this inspiring and fun work.

Anna-Marie
I have to agree with Ketan. Rebecca is the obvious choice as killer, but I still can't rule Carl out. We don't much about him. I still think he had some involvement in the murder.

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
Harry NTI have told me that all the calls made will be shown on the bill// Eline thanks for your concern I am feeling much better now, I am more than ready to make an arrest tomorrow.// Sam M. Credits? What credits? This is a murder investigation not an online murder mystery drama! Honestly some people.// Hilda, You can鈥檛 be prescribed Rohypnol in this country it鈥檚 illegal and it鈥檚 simply not possible to do those DNA tests on the foetus.// Lucie I鈥檝e a good mind to take you off the case. You鈥檙e grasping at straws, you鈥檒l have to wait until tomorrow for the answer.

D
I know im being thick but can someone tell me what date M was murdered please

Harry
Inspector, Is it true that all the calls made from Rebecca & Marilyn's room that cost less than 10p are not itemized on the phone bill?

eline (holland)
inspector, how are you feeling after the truncheon attack? You okay? Do you think you are feeling good enough to make an arrest tomorrow? GET WELL SOON!

Steve, Ireland
I still think its Rebecca but I guess its possible that Rebecca bought the wine at 8, went to MAralyn's room, leavingg her hat on the chair, pored the wine, administered the drug, and then when she was unconscious rang the Professor (as seen on the phone bill) and HE killed her. I'm in Ireland so I can't win but best of luck everyone!

H.P.
Come mes amis - remember: motive; means and opportunity? What drives motive - why money of course! Guy stands to inherit but has just discovered the conditions of his father's will ...

Sam M
Why doesn't Gemma appear in the credits?

Ketan
I think carl or rebecca. Rebecca because it is just so obvious and carl- I just think that he is an impostor. But I have to think more

Hilda
Can we still ask questions ? I'd like to know if Marilyn had a doctor's prescription to buy Rohypnol. Could someone ask het GP if he prescribed that drug for her ? I'm sure a 14-days old embryo can be tested to know who the father is. Has this been done ?

lucie
i think it was the profeesar i think dat rebecca and the prof were having an affair marilyn caugth them so the prof killed her but i think rebecca knows this thats y she lying 2 protect her lover

Sarah
I think that it is either Carl or Guy. Guy's 'alien body fluids' were found in her bed, and she was pregnant. It seems likely that Guy made her pregnant, quite probably raping her by drugging her first. However Carl could have killed her through his deep feelings of rejection, but I think Guy is more likely. But it is almost definitely one of the more unlikely people - in fact is partly because everyone is saying it is the Rebecca/ Professor theory that I came to this conclusion. Like with the Agatha Christie novels, it is always the doctor, the vicar, the quiet little person no-one really thought about or listened to...

Jade
I think it was the Professor, not only did her kill for him self but for Rebecca!

Jon
I too have thought it was Gemma all along, but given all the clues seem to point toward Rebecca, I will have to change my mind. She is the most obvious, and in most cases it is the most obvious. Whilst Gemma, Carl and Guy have all had possible reasons to be mad at her, only Rebecca seems to have most of the clues pointing toward her, along with a reason for wanting her dead (blackmail). Rebecca had motive and opportunity, and I believe now that she was the one to kill Marilyn.

Pammy
Inspector, you've tampered with the evidence - the phone bill now says 08/05/03!! Tut tut.

Mux
I think I'm going to go along with the Rebecca / Prof double act theory. Rebecca has lied a couple of times... Firstly about her alibi, and secondly (probably) about Carl and M's arguement. Clue 2 (according to R) says the following - "Carl sweeps stuff off a side table and Rebecca hearing the sound comes in." But as we can see from Clue 3, M's room is practically bare, so unless M threw ALL her belongings away in her last week alive, then Carl would have had difficulty sweeping anything off any of the tables onto the floor. Although... R should have known that M's room was bare and made up a different reason, but maybe she hadn't thought it through. The prof is highly agitiated about the thought of someone who has the potential to ruin his career, reputation and marriage in one fell swoop, and whilst I don't belive R would intentionally kill M, the idea of her drugging M and the Prof finishing her off (without R's knowledge) does seem like the most likely option.

Cossie
Paul, I think you are really close and I agree with your original theory about R drugging M and phoning the Prof however after that we disagree. I think the Prof either got cold feet or thought he needed more time and I think it was Gemma who finally ended M life after finding her drugged body. She had failed with her attempt to enlist Carl and did the deed herself.

Gus
Paul your theory makes sense but that cannot be the sole motive of the murder

Gus
I think we have all too easily put Guy aside. We know that there was some relationship between Marllyn and Guy before the murder. The question we have not asked is who did the baby belong too. Could that be a motive?

paul
it was the prof! from clue3, it seems prety obvious the the prof was getting hot under the collar! also, rebecca seems very much in love with the prof and would do anythink he says. i think, the prof convinced rebecca to drug marilyn's drink, so that they could have a cosy revendous in her room. rebecca phones the prof when the deed is done. they talk for around 15 mins, until the prof reaches marilyn's room. then finally, the prof suffocates rebecca while marilyn is out of the room - it would only take a while (she may have gone to the bathroom). the prof is cunning. he leaves minimal prints and is carful not to touch any other thing.he knows that the 15 min call could be seen as a desprate rebecca calling for help, and that rebecca would cover for the prof if bad came to worse!!

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
I don't know what you mean Pammy ;-)

Paul H
Hmmm, a difficult one this. On the evidence we've got, Rebecca looks like the killer, but is that too obvious? My gut reaction from the start is that it's Gemma - but who knows?!

Pammy
Why is the phone bill relevant? It's dated 2002, didn't the muder take place this year. Also if Carl is simple, I'm surprised he could say Magdalen correctly.

alex
the professor did it

RJ
I have waited for all the clues to come up, and looked at some of the staments below, still I think it was Carl who killed M (he is truly not well mentally), with Gemma as the instigator and Rebecca and the Prof knowing but keeping quiet in case their affair is made public. Guy is simply too rich and selfish to bother about girls having children from him. I thought the clues would make me think differently...but the gut feeling has kept the same. Just a theory anyway.

Lou
ps i do like the press cuttings :->

Lou
R bought wine at 8.20 and she or M talked to the prof for 15 mins at 9pm. This is evidently no call to say "okay she's asleep you can come and kill her now." It could be "Help, I panicked and drugged Marilyn, what should I do now." Or R wanted M asleep so she wouldn't disturb their regular visit, but the prof didn't want to come, causing a long argument? At any rate, M was not yet dead, but might have been drugged by this point, and if so R has to be guilty of something. One could just about construct a case along the lines of M had an appointment with Guy at 9.30, and blackmailed R into buying some wine for them. Then R goes off to meet the prof, at which point G drugs and murders M. This is all very farfetched as I don't see M and R sitting down for a cosy glass of plonk together somehow! But really it has to be R or why didn't she tell us about the wine.

Anna-Marie
I still can't rule out Carl. Obviously Gemma was goading Carl into becoming angry, was it so she could manipulate him into killing Marilyn? If Lord Spencer is dead, then Marilyn could potentially inherit a great deal of wealth. As her Brother, Carl could also inherit. I think Gemma knew this and made Carl believe this too. Has she got the letters? Gemma got Carl to kill Marliyn. This was her revenge for taking Guy away from her. But, then again, I may be wrong!

scarlett
why does rebecca say the room is so empty without marilyn when she didn't even share the same room and marilyn only talked to her nastily and she only wanted work

Rach
Well, despite thinking it was Gemma all along, think I'm going to have to go for Rebecca on the evidence we have. The fact that a phone call was made to the prof at 20.59 means that unless the time of death is wrong or someone else has a connection to the prof (no evidence for this), Rebecca must have been in their room at the time of the murder. In which case, it's likely that the prof knew what Rebecca was going to do and she was ringing to tell him she'd succeeded. However, the fact that the wardrobe was blocking the ajoining door, means that it is still possible that someone else murdered M and Rebecca turned up after she was dead, but never actually saw the body because she didn't have any reason to go into M's side of the room. So, although it's all pointing to R, not sure there's enough evidence to convict her! Could still be Gemma!

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
Hi Chickie, as I said a while back in reply to CrystalSea Guy鈥檚 friends say that he was with them in the Lawn Tavern but none of them can be sure when he joined them. The CCTV seems to suggest that that was about 18:15. Does that rule him out? That nasty truncheon attack has left me a bit washed up, I don鈥檛 think I am going to be much help for a while. Don鈥檛 forget to listen to Dermot鈥檚 report in the case file area of the site he seems to have some interesting theories.// Susie talking to the Pathologist I don鈥檛 think it is possible to perform paternity tests of a foetus that is so young, sorry about that. //Emma we鈥檝e all got until next Wednesday to work it all out and enter the competition, then on Thursday the Chief Inspector has insisted I bring this case to a close so I will be making an arrest. We鈥檒l all find out who done it then I guess 鈥� for now I better take a lie down and get my little grey cells back in alignment! 鈥� Good Luck.

Chickie
Inspector. How far is the Lawn tavern from St. Tims College? Any news on the wine bottle prints?

Susie
At least the phone bill proves that someone called Guy at 6pm.... was it M inviting him round to wet the baby's unborn head? Also someone phoned Prof at 1 min before the time span for M's death indicating that either he was not there and presumably Rebecca rang him, so could not have been in the library, or its an elaborate hoax to get him off the hook. I think Gemma is just trying to wind Carl up with a view to making him hassle M so she loses the baby, bad enough but not murder. Any thoughts?

Caterina
Oh, it is obviousely that the murder is Gemma after watching the 5th clue. She planned everything, not the professor who I thought previousely. She hates Marilyn because of Guy, and she said she once wanted to end her life because she lost Guy. Oh, yes, she is the one. I like Cossie's idea.

Susie
Thanks Inspector,I would like Carl to questioned further for elimination purposes about his statement that M was his sister. If he maintains that he cannot remember the letters then why does he think she is his sister? What was his reaction when told his DNA does not match (although they do not share the same mother and I thought there was something on TimeTeam about female line? Also what about DNA on the unborn child, any leads there? Thanks again.

Cossie
I think we have 2 crimes here. I think R definately drugged the wine for M but I don't think that means she killed her. She may have wanted to make sure she wasn't disturbed for some reason. It is possable that another person entered the room whilst M was drugged and smothered her as she lay on the bed. Hopefully tomorrows clue will shed some more light

Emma
Inspector, is tomorrow the final day of this competition, if so will the final clue tell us who commited the murder or will it be told separetly as a sort of conclusion?

scarlett
insepecter lewis is the wine rebbeca bought the same as what was found in the wine glass by marilyn,s bed

Lou
Inspector, i didn't say arrest them, but ask them to explain their actions. And separately, so they don't know what the other is saying. We will learn something about the wine at the very least. I like Rach's theory about the wine, but would substitute Guy for Gemma, his motive seems better. Is lord arch.. i mean spencer actually dead? and was he rich?

David
If it is definitely confirmed that Rebecca bought the wine - where and who was she with? She had plenty of motive and opportunity, but wouldn't it be obvious that the drug would point to her? Awaiting the final clue - this I hope at least eliminates some of the suspects.

Charlie
Sorry Inspector! Just wanted to make sure.

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
Lou, Steve// Lets not jump the gun we need something conclusive, hopefully we鈥檒l get that tomorrow, my officers are working hard to bring us new leads. That said I鈥檝e put all the suspects under surveillance just incase they try and do a runner.

CrystalSea
Thanks Inspector, in that case I think we need to question Carl further about how he came to the conclusion he was M's sister. The other thing is was M adopted by Lord Spencer? I know we can't do DNA as he won't give any, but it might be in the records if she was. Thanks

Lou
Thanks for the extra info Inspector, then it seems pretty certain R administered the drug. Perhaps she offered Marilyn wine as a peace offering? Or pretended it was a gift from someone else? At which point either Rebecca or the Professor could have suffocated her. I'm slightly more inclined to suspect the prof, as he has already shown he doesn't mind being violent. Equally, if Rebecca was afraid of losing him, even if she doesn't think Marilyn will "tell", she might have acted alone. Inspector, I think it is time to confront this pair!

Steve, Ireland
Rebeccca did it!!! She had the motive (being blackmailed because of her affair with the professor), she had access to rohypnol from the lab, her prints were on the wine glass, the cctv shows her in the wine shop an hour before maralyn was killed. Arrest that woman before she kills again! Wont someone please think of the children!

scott egerton
i thinkk that the honey monster did it kill him now!!!!!!!!!1

Rach
My money's still on Gemma, although there need to be a few developments in the final clue, as I don't think that her jealousy over Guy and Marylin being pregnant are mtive enough for murder. If she was going to do it over Guy, why wait till now? Rebecca does appear to be the prime suspect with both motive and opportunity, and the fact that she lied about where she was at the time of the murder and bought the same wine that helped to kill Marylin all add to this. But, she could have bought the wine for her "date" with the prof. and, when she realised that marylin was staying in that night, she might have gone somewhere else with prof and left the wine in her room. It could have been an opportunistic crime, with Gemma seeing the wine and adding some of her antidepressants to it while she was visiting Marylin

eline ( from netherlands)
I was just thinking,perhaps Guy didn't know about the pregnancy at all, the comment " it's not like we are having a baby" could maybe have been because Marilyn found out she was pregnant and didn't tell him yet, but tried to found what he thought of "having" a baby. SO she didn't tell him yet, but suggested the idea. Perhaps that was to find out how he would feel about it and that was what the argument was about. So Carl didn't even know she was pregnant. Or maybe the argument was about blackmailing the professor and Rebecca, and Marilyn wanted to take it further, but Guy wouldn't since it could end up in a bad reputation, which would hurt his business affairs. ANother thing, might be stupid, I dunno, but Rebecca says the room is empty without M. I think the room indeed looks very empty!!! Where are all their stuff? ANd btw, I saw a hat lying on the chair, could that perhaps be the hat R was wearing when buying the wine ?

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
Oxford Student//You鈥檙e very right she should have got a Hardship grant. I guess you do funny things when you鈥檙e depressed. They鈥檝e closed the venue now so I guess it won鈥檛 happen again. CrystalSea// Marilyn and Carl are not related I compared their swabs. Susie// I can鈥檛 answer all your questions lots of it is hopefully apparent in the clues but he is some information I鈥檝e got for you. The cleaner found the body the morning after the Murder. Guy was on his way to a lecture when he met Marilyn in the cloisters. Carl can鈥檛 remember the letters. When I asked if he had visited Marilyn鈥檚 room he said 鈥淥f course, she鈥檚 my sister鈥�. The beaten student went to Harvard after the attack and the Professor kept his position after much scandal because he is such an eminent leader in his field. The reflection on the floor under the window is the result of a dodgy 360 degree camera. I鈥榙 mention it to the Scenes Of Crimes Officer but I thought better of it. Lou//the wine does stock the wine used and the till receipts show that the right type of wine was brought at time Rebecca was in the shop paid for in cash.

Hilda
After reading the Scene of Crime Officer's report once more, I think it's really strange that Guy's fingerprints only appear on the door handle, as there are traces of his body fluids in the bed. He's become my main suspect. If Marilyn was pregnant with his child, he had a motive to kill her. She would certainly not have kept it a secret.

Oxford student
Gemma wouldn't have needed to strip to make ends meet. Her college would have given her a hardship grant if she was that badly off.

Carrie
I think there's one obvious question we're missing out on here. Inspector, where were you at the time of the murder?

Jon
Whilst I still believe that is was Gemma (jealousy is a strong motive), I think that Rebecca had the clearest opportunity (easy for her to slip the drug into the wine) and motive. (If having Marilyn alive would mean that she would have to stop seeing the professor...) I agree with Matt D's comment that it would have seemed strange to be sat in a room with someone wearing gloves, so the culprit who slipped the drug would have had to make Marilyn feel comfortable ie an invited guest or someone who shared a room with her. This kinda rules Carl out as we have seen she was freaked by him, Guy was also pretty mad at him, why would she sit talking to the prof as she didn't really know him, and he was pretty annoyed at her, do this only leaves Gemma. Marilyn would feel comfortable enough to sit and drink wine with Gemma, and Rebecca - who would have ample time to slip a drug in the drink. My money is still on Gemma, with an outside bet on Rebecca and then the Prof

CrystalSea
Could a DNA test be done between Marilyn and Carl to see if they are related. Thanks

CrystalSea
Have you seen the press cuttings. Is the first part of the story true, about Lord Spencer being in prison for falsifying diary etc.. and is there any drugs related to the Lord (not that i think he's an alien mind you), please investigate, thanks.

scott
pauline you are Cheeky for saying marilyn deseved 2 die

scott
i think proffeser did it arrest him

scarlett
maybe rebecca bought the wine and poisoned it and gave it to marilyn so that marilyn would forget about the scandel wiyh the proffeser mentioned in the latest clue because the drug found in the wine glass makes people have short term memory loss and whats more Rebbecas fingerprints are on the glass

Susie
Any chance of even some of my earlier questions being answered?

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
Charlie don't get cheeky!

David
I think it was Marilyn who bought the wine. Why, because she was meeting someone in her room, as she wanted Rebecca out of the way. So who was she meeting? The window was open, was that a means of entry or exit? Was the ground outside the window checked for clues? CCTV only confirms where Guy was at 18.15, and not between 20.00 and 21.00. Did Guy visit her to discuss the baby? Perhaps the relationship ended more recently than Guy is admitting (as per DNA tests). Why? Might make him the prime suspect? Could have a lot to lose with his father's business based in Middle East. Or did Marilyn want a girlie chat with Gemma to discuss Guy and the Baby? Did Gemma decide to kill Marilyn to get Guy back? Marilyn didn't like the professor, so unlikely he would be present but cannot rule him out, could have obtained date-rape drug. Carl is extremely unlikely - doesn't know him. And she told rebecca she wanted some peace. Prime suspect is Guy and Gemma. Who had most to gain, and who had most to lose? Awaiting final clue, but still feel it is Gemma.

Charlie
Insp.E. In Clue 4 Professor Highbury is wearing a microphone. Is this relevant to the case?

paulie
from what i've see so far marilyn deserved to die.

Lou
There's nothing suspicious about Rebecca having fingerprints on the glasses, she might just have done the drying-up last. But it does mean noone else handled the glass in between. Rebecca buying wine does seem suspicious, if she wasn't in the habit of doing so. Inspector, can we find out if the shop at least stocks the right sort of wine?

Chickie
Inspector, Did the wine bottle get tested for fingerprints? If so, what was found?

Cossie
The extra clues certainly point the finger firmly at Rebecca, either on her own or with the help of/under the instruction of the Professor. The fact that the wine glass had R and M fingerprints on it suggest it wasn't wiped clean by another person. I think we need to work on Guys and Carls story so they can be ruled out and the investigation can focus on the other 3, although there really isn't any evidence to suggest Gemma at this stage

Anna-Marie
The CCTV footage show Rebecca (if it is her) in a shop at 8pm, the time she said she was in the Library. Obviously she is lying, but I think she lied because she was actually with the Professor when Marliyn died. I am not ruling out Carl as the killer as he had a motive - obsessed with Marilyn. Inspector, is there any more info on how Carl got the job at the College?

CrystalSea
umm very interesting. I have a new theory, I think that Rebecca was considering suicide as the Prof was going to stop their relationship, hence her finger on the wine glass and her knowledge of chemicals. It could be that Marilyn took the wine by accident, and that Rebecca is too frightened to confess up. Only a theory mind.

Matt D
Just some thoughts. 1) If Gemma was seriously jealous of Marilyn for stealing Guy, finding out that Marilyn was pregnant might have tipped her over the edge. 2) Rebecca is the one defending M to the Prof in the overheard conversation. 3) If someone was in the room long enough to talk to M, slip her a date rape drug, and wait for it to take effect isn't it likely that they would leave more fingerprints than just on the door handle. Wearing gloves would seem suspicious to M, and there is no indication she suspected anything.

Kim
inspector could we find out if the landlord etc saw guy in the pub on the murder night and if so between what times? i would like other people to back up all alibis. i still think it is rebecca and if not her then it is gemma

CrystalSea
In the last clue, Rebecca says that M has enough problems/scandal in her own life,what does she mean by that? What medication is Gemma on for her depression/suicide problems? Did you have any joy with the time that the library closed for Rebecca's alibi - I have a feeling she might have been with the Prof and his wife is lying to protect him.

Doogie
It seems to me that it is possible that Marilyn did not know she was pregnant or was in the process of trying to become pregnant. We know that she would only have been 1 week into her pregnancy when the argument occurred with Guy and the difficulty (as confirmed by the Inspector) in being able to take an accurate test only 10 days after conception. We've seen that Marilyn had no qualms about blackmailing people (ie Rebecca), therefore she could have been telling people that she was pregnant in order to make Guy think it was his and win back his interest - after all he does admit that things were on the rocks. Although who she would actually have got herself pregnant by I am unsure of. I don't however think it was Guy given the state of their relationship at that time. I am also toying with the idea that in fact the Prof was having an affair with both Marilyn and Rebecca -after all why go for "dowdy" Rebecca when he could have "wild child" Marilyn. Perhaps Rebecca found out and killed her, and in doing so framing the Prof! I think there is a connection in Guy's middle eastern business dealings and I suspect that somewhere along the line we are going to find that this ties in with the academic backgrounds of the students and the Prof. It could be that Guy was using Marilyn to get scientific information through her contact with rebecca and therefore the Prof. Perhaps Marilyn had finally served her purpose. It's strange that Gemma is so far out of the picture. There must be more to her part than meets the eye.

casey
i dont now

David
Jon// Thanks for the information. I have a question, would you want to block the conneting doorway between Marilyn's and Rebecca's room, if Rebecca was doing your work for you? And wouldn't there be a lock on the connecting door? If so, why place a wardrobe there instead? I think I'm losing the plot here. Silly thought of the day - is there anything under the wardrobe? My money is still on Gemma.

Chickie
Inspector. Do you know how Guy's father died?

Fred
Inspector. Surely the college would have required references from Carl or they would not have employed him to look after the deer. This seems a bit suspicious.

Ketan
Sorry for coming back so late. Lots of studies and work. But I am back on the game. This is really going in a interesting path. I have not seen Marilyn's room very nicely yet but have anyone seen blood anywhere? And furthermore this thing with Rebecca and Proffessor is really getting interesting.So we have three prime suspects now Rebecca, Professor and Guy. But I am interesting though Gemma is really nowhere. I wanna hear her part of story. Was her foot print found on the crime sceen.

Susie
A mere list of 16 questions now, some may have been asked already. We know the cleaner found the body but when did he/she find it? Why was Guy in the cloister at St Tim's when Marilyn stopped him? What does Carl say about the letters he showed to M and overheard by Rebecca? Who was the student beaten by the prof., does he have any relevance? Why was the prof re employed after such a serious incident? When did cleaner overhear M & Rebs conversation? What is causing the reflection in the room? Was M blackmailing Prof over something else, he doesn't seem too bothered about her blackmailing Reb? Why did M loathe Reb so much? Ask Reb, prof and Gemma. Did Carl go straight to paper on arriving in Oxford? If not who prompted the research by paper? Who got Carl the job at the Univ? Have the alibis been checked out? What time does Guy say he met his friends? Has anyone confirmed Gemma's and Carl's alibis? Sorry to overload you Inspector.

CrystalSea
Inspector, sorry to hear about your truncheon incident, I hope you are recovering well. Is it possible to see the actual article relating to Carl in the press cuttings office please, thanks.

CrystalSea
Thanks Inspector. Do we know how long Marilyn and Gemma have been friends? i.e. are they friends from School? Thanks

cyrill
What's the object on the cabinet by the window? is it some sort of tool and whos is it? who opened the window and was it opened on the night of the murder as access or escape to avoid other people?

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
CrystalSea// With regards to the Alibi鈥檚, only the professors wife has confirmed his story. Guy鈥檚 friends say that he was with them in the Lawn Tavern but none of them can be sure when he joined them. Stu Magoo// I am sorry I wasn鈥檛 100% clear about that, fingerprints from all the suspects were found on the door but, the door handle, was the only place that Carl and Guy鈥檚 were found. Fred & Jon// thanks for clarifying that point to David. The main door connecting the girls room had been block by the wardrobe (we can see the top of it behind the wardrobe) that was really just to stop Rebecca barging in on Marilyn, she still could have got access from the other door through to the shared area. I know it鈥檚 an odd set up by there you go. Chickie// I am afraid that no one knows where Carl came from before he turned up at the college. It is certainly very difficult to place his accent. Anna-Marie & David// The bottle of water was left by the Scenes Of Crime Officer. This is highly unprofessional and I have had words. I am sorry if this caused confusion but it is of no consequence. The documents are not the letters we are looking for, perhaps they don鈥檛 exist? I am expecting the DNA, Fingerprint and CCTV footage to come in tomorrow so be sure to check back.

Hilda
To Stu Magoo : I don't think they say that Marilyn's fingerprints are missing on the door handle. What they say is that Guy and Carl's fingerprints are only found on the handle, they aren't found anywhere else.

CrystalSea
Inspector, is there any news on the alibis? Also did you question Gemma about the types of things Marilyn said about Rebecca which was making her livid? Thanks Crystal

Liz
At the beginning I think that Marilyn and Guy were arguing cos Marilyn had just told Guy that she was pregnent wot do u think

Stu Magoo
Looking at clue 3, there is something strange about the fingerprints. As Marilyn is in the room, then surely her fingerprints should be on the handle. As they are missing, then either someone must of cleaned the handle after she was in the room, or they have been overlayed with Guy and Carl's fingerprints. Certainly the last two people to enter the room must of been Guy and Carl. This means that either one of them murdered Marilyn, or they found her body but didn't report it. Inspector Endeavour, can we take them both in for questioning on this matter?

DP
After watching clue 4 I don't think Rebecca is the murderer. Her only motive is to keep marylin quiet but she doesn't seem to think Marylin would tell anyone anyway!! The professor does seem to think that Marylin causes more of a threat although I am still not convinced he is the culprit. My money is still on Gemma and her having something more to do with Carl than we know yet!

Jon
David// In an earlier answer, the inspector pointed out that the girls had connecting rooms with shared facilities, as Marilyn did not like Rebecca she had the wardrobe placed there so they only had to use the shared facilities and access to each others rooms were cut off

Chickie
Inspector. Could you find out if Magdalen College has any info about Carl from more than 3 months ago?

fred
David. Inspector Endeavour told us that the 2 girls weren't getting on & that Rebecca's bedroom is through the door behind the wardrobe.

Cossie
Last couple of clues have pointed the finger at Rebecca and Prof Highbury but as has been said here neither really seemed to have the opportunity. Was the body found in R room or in Marilyns ( as far as I remember there sleeping areas were seperated by the door behind the wardrobe). Inspector have the lab come up with anything on the wine amnd glasses with regard to fingerprints? I think we need more checking on Gemma but the one point that sticks in my mind is the fact Carls fingerprints are on the inside door handle... how did they get there? was he a frequent visitor to the room rather than just the once?

David
Inspector, was the window already opened the body was found? or was it opened later?

David
Inspector, looking at the photo, there appears to be a bottle of water underneath the chair by the door. Has this been tested?

David
Having re-examined the room, I know I am occasionally dense, but if you are sharing a room, wouldn't there be 2 beds? or am i missing something mentioned earlier?

David
I have a strong feeling that the door at the back of the wardrobe connects to Gemma's room.

Cyrill
Where does the hidden door bhehind the wardrobe lead to and why is it hidden?

Lou
We have a very strong motive for Rebecca and the Professor, but I don't see how they could have committed the murder - Marilyn obviously hates them, and I don't see that she would accept a glass of wine from either of them. The best I can come up with is that she might have left the glass lying around in the kitchen and gone out, giving Rebecca a chance to dope it. I have to come back to Guy who had both motive and means, though i find his motive unconvincing.

Chickie
In clue 3 also revealed it states: "Marilyn and Rebecca are the only suspects to have positive fingerprint identifications on the telephone in the room." Does this mean that Marilyn is a suspect in her own death?

Anna-Marie
Question about Rebecca's room: The wine glasses were taken away for examination, but why was the bottle of water underneath the chair (beside the open door) left behind? What is underneath the chair? Is it a newspaper?

Confused
I'm a little concerned about the "Oxford Male" article. You can just make out the writing underneath the picture of Carl & it's about a man digging up strange objects in his garden. What relevance is this to Carls story?

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
Hi Joe90, First of all welcome to the game. It has been concluded that Marilyn was definitely pregnant because in clue two we had the body re-examined by the pathologist see http://www.bbc.co.uk/oxford/murder/clue2_extra.shtml There has been some discussion about whether she knew she was pregnant but it seems to be a fair bet that she did or at least had a good idea she was because she told a friend, see press cuttings http://www.bbc.co.uk/oxford/murder/press.shtml hope this helps.

Joe90
I am lost because I started out late on this trail. Was Marylin pregnant or not? I can't find anything that tells me this but there must be a simple answer from the autopsy

Hilda
To Mux : I've been wondering about the reflections as well. I think there's a shoe under the chair and the 'dead parrot' could be the other one (to make a pair). The grey square thing under the chair, I can't say what it is.

DP
The Oxford Male states that Lord Spencer refused to give DNA tests to confirm the paternity of Carl, however, in his intitial Statement the Prof refers to Marilyn's father as the LATE honourable Spencer - can you confirm when Lord Spencer died? and whether this too was suspicious?

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
Okay people I think we are rounding on the killer. This is the last week and I think we can expect some exciting developments with an extra mid-week clue to look forward to. Keep your eyes and ears open I think we are getting close. Don鈥檛 forget to listen or read the views of our real life detective Dermot Norridge in the case file area.

Laura
I think Guy's hiding something, i'm sure he knew about her baby and was lying in the interview when he said they weren't - surely that's what he means by a ball and chains? He seems like the kind that would treat women like dirt anyway - handsome and rich - they're all the same. He probably just thought she would get in the way of him building his business empire.

Eve
Inspector, can we rule out suicide?

Poirot
Inspector, can you confirm that Marilyn was found in her room (not Rebecca's) and that she really lived there. If she really lived in the room, have friends confirmed that she had very few belongings? Did you find any clothes, toothbrush, etc?

scarlett
i think gemma might have found out that Marilyn was pregnant and was jealous and so killed her

Mux
Three questions concerning the picture of the room. 1 - what is the thing in front of the drawers? It looks like a mirror, but it can't be otherwise it'd be reflecting the wall and the wardrobe and it's clearly showing an outside scene. 2 - what're the things under the chair? 3 - what's the thing that looks like a dead parrot to the left of the drawers?

Anna-Marie
I think Marilyn was murdered somewhere else and moved to Rebecca's room to frame her maybe? I agree that Rebecca is being blackmailed by Marilyn.

David
Inspector, is there any chance of photos of the crime scene?

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
Hi Linz, the body was found by a cleaner. I am sorry I had not been able to provide this information earlier.

Linz
Inspector, can you tell us who reported the Murder?

David
I feel the latest clue confirms Gemma, as the guilty person. Marilyn obviously wanted Rebecca out of the room as she was expecting someone. If Marilyn was the wild party girl, why was she not going out on Friday night?

Poirot
Have friends confirmed that Marilyn lived in that room? One reason for the lack of personal belongings could be that she actually lived somewhere else.

CrystalSea
I had in my mind decided it was Rebecca, but Clue 3 showed her as being quite weak, during her argument with marilyn, I am going towards the Prof now. I think Caterina has a good point, I think R was doing M's homework because she was being blackmailed about her affair with the Prof. The Prof would have a lot to lose if it came out, only a few years to retirement, his professionalism, his family etc. It could also harm R's future career particularly as she has been at Oxford since she was 15.

Hilda
After watching the video of clue 3, I think Marilyn was found in Rebecca's room. Except for a hat on the chair near the wardrobe, both rooms look very similar. Inspector, you say that only a bottle of wine and a glass have been removed from the room, but it's has been revealed that bedding and clothing were taken from the rooms for analysis. Or am I mistaken ?

Hilda
I think the room where we see Rebecca at work, looks very much the same as the one where Marilyn was found. Was she murdered in Rebecca's room ? Inspector, you say you've only removed a bottle of wine and a glass. But in clue 3 they say clothing and bedding has been submitted for DNA analysis as well. So ?

Linz
Surely Marilyn cant have known she was pregnant. If she did, why was she drinking???

Rach
Sorry, I meant Carl, not Guy!

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
Cossie, you鈥檙e right. The only thing we have moved at this stage is a bottle of wine and a glass for finger print analysis. It is strange that she had so few belongings.

Cossie
" further questions to the inspector, how soon after C confronted M (clue 2) was clue 3 ?? and how soon before the murder was clue 3? In the background of clue 3 you can see some papers on a table, could these be the missing letters from clue 2??

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
Thanks Hilda, I did indeed mean Rebecca. That is going to do nothing for the allegations about my professionalism!

Rach
In the subject of fingerprints, I noticed that Guy did not touch the inner door handle when leaving Marylin's room after their argument, because Rebecca had opened it from the outside, so he must have been in the room on another occasion. Was it to kill her, or is there more to this "brother" than we yet know? I don't think that he was the murderer, but I do think that he was more involved than it appears at the moment.

Cossie
Unless the police have removed items for further investigation the room is very sparten. There are no books on the shelves and no sign of any personal items such as pictures, posters and the like. This seems very strange in a room that counted as 'home'there are no personal items.

Hilda
Thank you for answering my question,Inspector. I suppose you meant Rebecca when you typed Gemma. I suppose the access to the rooms has to be through the communal facilities then ?

Caterina
I think the murder is Professor Arthur. In the introduction video, I saw Rebecca was telling him something, and he was very angry. Look at his eyes, so evil!I think he killed Marilyn. He hated Marilyn, and use his knowledge of chemical to kill Marilyn. He knows that alcohol with flunitrazepan will cause blackout, and also from Rebecca, he knew that Marilyn would go our with her boyfriend that night, so he planned the murder, and that's why he mentioned Guy in his statement. He thought it would make Guy be the suspect. He thought there was no point that the police would suspect him.By the way, in Carl's statement, he said the old man had to pay, so he might know something. Wait a minite, it says Guy and Carl's finger prints were only found on the handle, that seems interesting. Anyway, I believe the reason why Rebecca did the homework for Marilyn is that Marilyn knew the story of her and the professor, which also cause the professor to plot the murder in order to "pretect" his best student. Speaking of the bed, I think Rebecca removed the bed to another room because that room became a crime scene.

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
Good point Hilda. It is our understanding that Marilyn and Gemma weren鈥檛 the best of friends and Marilyn actually moved the wardrobe in front of the door that connects the two rooms. They still used communal facilities which were accessed by the door that is ajar.

Hilda
I've been looking at the room where Marilyn was found. I can only see one bed. We know Rebecca is her room mate. I don't know what rooms at the Oxford University look like, so I only see two possibities : one, she wasn't murdered in het room ; two, she was and the wooden 'panel' with the open door is a kind of separation between Marilyn's part of the room and Rebecca's. In that case the access door to the room is blocked by the wardrobe. Who knows the answer to these questions ?

Cossie
Inspector, amny luck with the search for Carls letters?

Pheasant
I'm pretty sure its Guy. His muslim contacts in the middle east would have been sensitive about him having a child out of wedlock. He had too much to lose, so in his words "pulled the plug."

Doogie
If one can't take a pregnancy test until 10 days after conception then it is clear that when arguing with Guy Marilyn could not have known she was pregnant and therefore was either lying to Guy about being pregnant or the conversation was about something else. My instinct makes me think the latter.

CAT
Has any of the CCTV footage from around or near the campus, library,dorms, pub(where guy was)etc been checked out to try and prove or disprove the alibis or pick out more witnesses. There is bound to be CCTV in the area, picking up people's comings and goings?

Rach
I still think it's Gemma. Does she have a room mate to confirm her alibi? And could an overdose of her antidepressants, combined withthe alcohol, have caused Marylin's death? I also think there is some hidden link between Gemma and Carl. Gemma was infactuated with Carl, but he was obsessed with Marylin, so it was a bit of deja vu for gemma, who had already had guy stolen from her by Marylin. Also, would it be possible to confirm why the Prof kows so much about Guy and Marylin, seeing as he claimed not to know her? I agree with everyone who thinks he was having it away with Rebecca. Oh, and Ernie Justice, think your theory is right about Jessica Fletcher. I think it's too much of a coincidence that someone dies every time she goes out!

Ernie Justice
It was that Murder she wrote woman 鈥� Jessica Fletcher! For years she got away with murdering her victims and then convincingly fingering their best friends. Despite the fact that every-single one of her crimes was televised the authorities never twigged that everywhere she went someone snuffed it. She is still at large and probably operating under the guise of Inspector Endeavour! Right on Alex C it was him/her.

Lou
Can we get this straight? Even supposing she did the pregnancy test at exactly 10 days, the friend was out of the country at the time of the murder. When was she told exactly? Also, it sounds like Marilyn was having problems with Guy longer ago than that. What was the girl playing at?

Minima
is it possible to do a paternity test on a completely undeveloped fetus?

CrystalSea
Do we know if Marilyn was in the habit of having a glass of vino in the dorms? The impression given is that she was a party animal so more likely to go out rather than stay in. Admittedly, she may have been upset with her confrontation with Carl, in which case who did she have a glass with, shoulder to cry on maybe...

CrystalSea
Alex C, did you speak to the newspaper about the Inspector? See article 2 in the press clippings :)

CrystalSea
Please question Gemma about what sort of things Marilyn said about Rebecca which she was apparently vivid about, certainly in recent months, which Gemma stated in her statement. It doesn't seem that Rebecca and Marilyn were that close, yet Rebecca claims they were good friends but her comments about Marilyn are not particularly friendly, 'Marilyn turning her back on their friendship' etc. I think Rebecca was/is jealous of Marilyn's carefree nature particularly about her studies, which you can understand as Rebecca would have been in a more mature environment for many years as she is on her 2nd degree and has been at Oxford since she was 15. She would not necessarily have had many friends her own age, hence her friendship with the Prof which may or may not be platonic!!

CrystalSea
Could you confirm that all the alibis have been validated, proof etc, Rebecca's library alibi have we checked the time the library closes?. 2nd We know that Marilyn had not been to her GP and had not been prescribed any drugs. The drug found in Marilyn's body is prescribed for insomnia, could we check with Rebecca's GP whether she has been prescribed with this drug, if so from what date. If not, can we check whether the University has the relevant compounds to make up the drug. 3rd, Guy states that he has to deal with his father's business in the Middle East - why? Did his father not have business partners, surely they wouldn't want someone who is new to the Middle East protocols and religious beliefs finishing business - also when he graduates he is due to inherit from a trust fund, wouldn't this reduce his chances of completing his degree successfully - final year and all that, all points count towards the final degree. Is there any proof that Carl really is Marilyn's brother, and why he was put away by the authorities? Thats it for now, thanks Crystal

inspector Amee
I don't think it was Carl, he was obsessed with her and after her denying ever contacting him or being related in anyway to him this would have upset him but I don't think he did it. The Prof. was my first choice after watching his video but then after seing the clip and he says 'she will be dealt with' or words to that effect, makes him too obvious too. The roommate (having an affair with proff.) may have given M the drugs and then done it if she suspected M to have beein 'wild' and trying it on with Prof. I think it is too early in the 'game' and we are going to be led all around the roses until the final week, but it is good fun. ps I reckon that carl is being set up for the next murder ( of the Prof!);-)

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
If anyone has missed the newspaper cuttings they are on a page that is linked to at the top right of this page. They will update as new ones come in.

Jon
Inspector would it be possible to publish the newspaper articles on this website?

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
Doogie, Danielle, and Chickie. It is my understanding that you can鈥檛 really do a pregnancy test until 10 days after conception. That leaves Marilyn roughly a four day window to tell a friend that she was pregnant. I suspect that someone is exaggerating things a little 鈥� probably the press.

Uncle Sam
I'm adding Gemma to my list of suspects. I find this comment very sketchy: "but as far as murder goes, that's way beyond what I'd expect dowdy little Rebecca to be capable of."

Doogie
Inspector Endeavour - could you put Chickie's question to Marilyn's "close friend"? At least that way we will know whether Marilyn was indeed, or ( realistically likely to have known that she was)pregnant when she told her "close friend".

Uncle Sam
What if the Professor was sleeping with Marilyn and got her pregnant. Rebecca, infatuated with the genius of the Prof, becomes profoundly jealous and murders Marilyn in a way that implicates the others. Could be that Marilyn deliberately allowed herself to conceive, fueling Rebecca鈥檚 fire. The clues fit the hypothesis.

Chickie
Do we know how long ago it was that Marilyn told her "friend" she was pregnant?

Danielle
Marilyn couldn't have known she was pregnant, in one of the press clippings it says that she confided in friends "weeks Before Her Death", she was only 2 weeks pregnant when she died so either A she told "friends" she was pregnant the night after conceving, B didnt know she was pregnant and at the time was telling porkies or C the newspapers are lying

Chickie
I agree with Doogie & Stu Magoo. It's pretty much impossible that Marilyn would've known she was pregnant after such a short period of time. Don't forget that the 1st clue was supposed to be one week before the murder, meaning Marilyn had been pregnant for 1 week.

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
As usual with these big cases the press has started to pick up on stories. What they print is not always true and most of the ones I鈥檝e seen printed about this case are libellous but what their journalists print might help you formulate an opinion and should distil some of the key points mentioned in this crime room.

Martha
We don't know when Marilyn and Guy split up, none of the interviews reveal this information. I think it might be important to find out so we can see how likely it is to be Guy's baby.

Jon
Stu Magoo - I think you have hit the nail on the head here, I agree, I think Marilyn was deliberately trying to get herself pregnant - but why? Not sure yet. Inspector, can we please reinterview Carl, Gemma and Guy in light of the new evidence that Marilyn was indeed pregant to question 1) if they knew about it, and 2) what their feelings were about the pregnancy?

Cossie
I think the police need to double their efforts to find the missing letters. If I saw correctly in clue 2 Carl dropped/threw them on the ground in Marilyns appartment so someone must have taken them unless of course Marilyn saw fit to destroy them. I still want to know what Rebecca meant by stating 'as ever' with regard to M turning her back on thier friendship.

Lou
I've lots of questions here: for example, we don't seem to know much about the murder scene. In particular, were other wine glasses there? or a bottle? Also, it would be good to know about Marilyn's financial situation - it sounds like her family is rich, but her father is "late" according to the professor. If she is rich it seems less likely that she would be blackmailing Rebecca and the Professor for example, or need Guy to help financially with her baby. It does seem odd that she knew about the baby so quickly, does suggest it might have been deliberate. We have motives all round, how about some facts. Has Carl been asked if he saw anyone coming or going at Marilyn's room on the evening in question? he seems to have been watching her.

Doogie
I think Stu Magoo is on to something. Given that Marilyn would have only been one week into pregnancy she still may not have known about it, but may have lied to Guy about being pregnant in order to get him to marry her and get her hands on his cash. It could just be a quirk of fate that she got pregnant and perhaps by someone else other than Guy, the Professor perhaps. He could have been using Marilyn to get to Guy's cash in order to fund a scientific project? A breakthrough drug or something similar? Just a thought

freddie
Alex. C. Where were you on the night of the murder? Just a thought...

Kim
Why was Carl holding a newspaper? Did he really take the pic out of a magazine? If he did maybe he is mentally unbalanced...

Stu Magoo
Maybe there is something more to this pregnancy. The argument between Guy and Marilyn in clue 1 seems to be about the pregnancy, but this would of been only one week after Marilyn got pregnant. Could Marilyn have deliberately put herself in the position to get pregnant, hence the argument? This would give more motive towards Guy.

CrystalSea
Inspector Endeavour - the original coronors report suggests that Marilyn was suffocated through nose and mouth. The second report shows that she didn't have enough drug and drink to kill her. Was there any bruising over the face - nose, mouth etc. Also was there any fibres found which could be consistent with someone smoothering her. As marilyn was already unconscious and would be out for a long time, we would need further evidence, assuming she wouldn't be able to fight back. Could this be investigated please. Thanks

Doogie
Is it also not possible to ask Guy, Gemma and Rebecca if they knew that Marilyn was pregnant? Furthermore with Guy, should he answer in thenegaitive, ask what their argument was about?

Ella
Only two small remarks: 1) we do not know for sure that Guy was the father of Marylin's baby. Even if the conversation overheard in clue 1 was about the pregnancy, Marylin could just have been asking for Guy's help, or she could have been lying about who the father was. 2) I think the modus operandi makes Carl a very unlikely suspect. If he is indeed mentally unstable, I would expect him to kill Marylin in a fit of rage, throwing something at her or hitting her. However, putting her in a drugged sleep and then suffocating her sounds premeditated, and Carl does not sound as if he could have planned something like that.

Alex C.
成人快手 Oxford Team: I truly believe in the innocence of Inspector Lewis Endeavour. Accordingly to several sources, he has proved, over the last years, to be a dedicated, tenacious, unflappable, and very professional. However it is inadmissible that he did not released crucial information such as the fact that Marilyn herself knew she was pregnant. Accordingly to my first comment today, this will prove, I have no doubts, to be a fundamental point on making theories of incriminating Guy. I would Request the Oxford team to make this bit of crucial information鈥� namely, the fact that we know, from a truly faithful witness, that Marilyn knew was pregnant - in the first page of the murder website. And just for the sake of no doubts to remain on the innocence of Inspector Endeavour, I would like someone independent to speak again to Endeavour鈥檚 source of clue number one, Marilyn鈥檚 friend - to double check Inspector Endeavour鈥檚 statements. If the story turns out not to be consistent, I would recommend the 成人快手 Oxford Team to dismiss him, and to bring Detective Inspector Dermot Norridge to the case. However I must say I believe in the innocence of Endeavour. And that small fail on not releasing essential information鈥�. well,鈥� I think we can all forgive him this time. Let鈥檚 see how the story evolves,鈥� - and remember Rebecca, I鈥檝e got an eye on you, now that the inspector is innocent.

Never trust plado
I think it was Pingu. I've never trusted that penguin.

Ketan
Now I want to know these things: 1) What is the cause of death of Marilyn Spencer? 2) Has it been found that Carl is the brother of Marilyn? 3) Know more about Guy and Gemma. 4) Find more about the drug that was used. Is professor and Rebecca related to this in anyway?

Doogie
Inspector Endeavour - thanks for the information. Is it possible to obtain a scene of crime report? I think that would be helpful

DP
If Marilyn knew that she was pregnant then it would seem that the conersation between Marilyn and Guy was indeed about this. However Guy specifically states that he and Marilyn were not having a baby in his statement to the police. If he has lied about his what else has he lied about? On the other hand their argument could still have been about something different and Guy may have been unaware of the pregnancy, although that seems unlikely if Marilyn was already tellying close friends other than her supposed best friend Gemma and Room mate Rebecca! I would like more information about the letters as I am not convinced that Marilyn did not know more about them than she let on - she stumbles over her words alot towards the end of her argument with Carl in Clue 2!

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
Alex C I will not have my integrity compromised! The close friend only saw fit to reveal she had been told about the pregnancy after I questioned her further on Doogie鈥檚 instruction. Her initial statement was all she chose to reveal in clue 1. It must also be clear that this witness is beyond reproach.

Alex. C.
成人快手 OXFORD TEAM: I would request Inspector Lewis Endeavour to be dismissed of the case and to be considered a suspect, together with the other five. I accuse him of hiding crucial information on this case: As a matter of fact, some ten minutes ago he wrote, in reply to Doogie 鈥淪he [a friend of Marilyn, the source of clue number one] says that Mariyln had told her that she was pregnant.鈥� If this is so, why did inspector Endeavour didn鈥檛 tell us about this? Shall I remind you all that I have been requesting the pregnancy tests for up to 3 days?! The inspector was hiding this relevant information he had obtained at the time of Clue number 1 鈥� ages ago!!! Therefore he is acting in a very strange way, and shall be considered a suspect. 鈥� a question is now in the air, why this behaviour?? is he the direct responsible for Marilyn鈥檚 pregnancy???... my original suspicions on Rebecca are turning to the inspector, who has a lot to answer now, but lets see how the story evolves鈥�..

Alex C.
Inspector Lewis Endeavour, thank you for taking the time to ask the pathologists to re-examin Marilyn鈥檚 body. // Matt D., you have some good points here. However I think you are making everything too linear, excluding some important possibilities; for example you didn鈥檛 look at the possibility of the letters being in fact genuine, but written by some other Marilyn Spencer, not the one murdered on Thursday, the 8th of May. I stick to my last comment, it鈥檚 crucial to find those letters and to make a comparative test on the handwriting. // With respect to today鈥檚 clue (clue number 2 - special); if Marillyn was either long term pregnant or not pregnant at all, that would have been a good source of theories for the solution of the crime. However, and somehow unfortunately, it won鈥檛 tell us much given that we still don鈥檛 know if Marillyn knew she was pregnant or not. Therefore I would ask Inspector Endeavour if it would be possible to speak to Gemma, asking if Marillyn told her about the pregnancy. They were, apparently, close friends, and therefore Gemma should know about this. I would ask her in a subtle way, as in not to mention Gemma about Marillyn鈥檚 pregnancy directly, but rather to make her saying so (if she knows so, of course). And we shall do the questioning like this just in case Gemma is the murderer; as she could lie saying her friend was in fact pregnant, and this way trying to incriminate Guy.// In any case, I still have my initial felling for Rebbeca, but let鈥檚 see how the story evolves鈥�..

BERTIE
I WAS JOHN

cossie
I have a couple of ideas but really need more evidence before making a decision. The original statements have many differing opinions but the nature of the crime (drugged and suffocated) seems to point to Gemma or Rebecca. I was very interested in the end of Rebeccas statement 'I tried to be there for her but as ever she turned her back on our friendship' especially the words as ever! I think we need to persue the alibis more closely

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
Hi Doogie, Marilyn was a Biology Student at Oxford. The evidence in Clue 1 comes from one of Marilyn鈥檚 friend who has been ruled out of the investigation as she was out of the country at the time of the Murder. She says that Mariyln had told her that she was pregnant.

Doogie
Could Inspector Endeavour find out what subject Marilyn was studying and identify the source of clue 1 please?

Ketan
Now here comes another twist in the story. First we know that professor is an aggresive person and second that Rebecca was Pregnant. Now the eye goes to Guy a little bit. But why would guy care about the pregnancy matter of Marilyn. After all he doesnot care about it and that we know from the story itself. And another thing I really wanna know is how was Marilyn actually dead? Was Rophonyl the main cause.

Hannah2
gemma seems to be hiding something

Doogie
Given that Marilyn was only two weeks pregnant and there are no medical records of her having this confirmed by her doctor there is a chance that she was unaware of the pregnancy. It would therefore be interesting to know who the "close friend" was who reported Clue 1. In ignorance of the pregnancy this could lend some credence to Guy's statement that she was applying pressure on Guy in their relationship. It could be that she was very keen to consolidate their relationship in some way (ie marriage) because of Guy's recent wealth. Marilyn's comments regarding "being involved" could relate to the fact that Carl has turned up and hence why Guy refers to this as "her shackles".

Doogie
Do we actually know what Marilyn was studying?

Jon
I think that this new evidence puts Guy right in the frame, can't wait to see if the letters come out.//Who has the most to lose from Marilyn being pregnant? Guy (will it really get in his way or would he just have denied it was his) Gemma (as I stated earlier I think she has the most to lose and so is still my choice for murderess), or Carl? Or are we all following a red herring and it is all about bribary afterall, which puts the proffessor or Rebecca in the frame.

john
The argument was purely based on hearsay ...fom Rebecca...do you not think that as a star pupil, that there could be a relationship between Rebecca and the Prof.Highbury...maybe Marilyn found out and Rebecca had to keep her silent?...

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
Alex, Sally and others you may wish to see that the pathologist has re-examined the body. We can now confirm she was pregnant. See the full report from the murder homepage or a link from clue 2. Matt D. you鈥檝e made some really good points about the letters and I am making their discovery a priority. By Friday we should have the DNA evidence through which should tell us more. Keep your thoughts coming in.

josie
Carl is the biggest loser. Rebecca palridge is really cool. I know that it was guy.

Matt D.
Working through clue 2 logically: Rebecca is either lying, or telling the truth. a) If she is lying, we have no reason to believe that the letters are not genuine, and every reason to suspect Rebecca of deeper involvement in the murder. b) If she is telling the truth, Carl believes the letters are genuine, and therefore doesn鈥檛 have a motive for killing his sister, who he thinks the world of. So are the letters actually genuine? The fact that the letters are missing tends to suggest one of two things. 1) They are genuine, and someone wanted to cover up the fact. The only conceivable motive I can see from the evidence to date is jealousy on the part of Rebecca, no other person appears to have any reason. This would fit with scenario a) above 鈥� but usually there has to be an event to tip the balance, and there doesn鈥檛 currently seem to be one. 2) They are faked, and someone wanted to cover up the fact. Obviously the letters could have been faked by Carl, or by another person. But Rebecca鈥檚 snooping seems to indicate that Carl thinks the letters are genuine. So we would be left with a mysterious other person faking the letters 鈥� which Carl claims to have been receiving since he was growing up! None of the suspects seem to have known Marilyn or Carl long enough to make this plausible. In this scenario, Rebecca is probably telling the truth, and has no reason for revealing her overheard conversation should she have faked the letters in the first place. Which would leave a third party involved, so we are again possibly missing some evidence. The other option is that Carl is mad. The next question has to be who would have access to the letters. Carl obviously, but at the moment the evidence seems to point away from him faking them. If Carl leaves them in Marilyn鈥檚 room, then Marilyn and Rebecca have excellent access, and the others could conceivably have found them, probably at the same time as a murder. But a murderer would surely only steal the letters if they incriminated him/her. Possibly someone else might steal them to blackmail the writer, but this is a little convoluted. I can only realistically see 2 options: The letters are genuine, Carl is Marilyn鈥檚 sister, Rebecca stole the letters and made up the story to incriminate Carl, which suggests that Rebecca is guilty in some form The letters are faked by a deranged Carl, who has convinced himself that Marilyn is his sister, and when realizing that this isn鈥檛 true has tipped over the edge and killed her.

Danielle
Over what timescale did Carl recieve the letters from Maryiln could they have been from the murderer to bring Carl in as "Loopy Obviously Murdered My Sister Suspect"?

Sally
Does Marilyn have to be pregnant? Is it possible that she was perhaps trying to talk him into something like a business opportunity? He says that they weren't having a baby, and I think that a post mortem would have found out if she was? The comment was "if you want it". This doesn't necessarily mean a baby. Perhaps she was trying to get him to invest in a business idea - as a chemist, perhaps it was a new drug - something controversial like an abortion pill, and he wanted no part of it. This may explain Guy's comment about still being at uni. My theory at the moment was that it was Rebecca, and that she was jealous of MArylin for the fantastic discovery that she may have made...

DP
My current theory is that Marilyn's father Lord Spencer had an affair with his housekeeper resulting in the birth of Carl, Carl was placed into Care at the time as Lord Spencer would not acknowledge him and the housekeeper could not bring him up. Lord Spencer then had another affair (perhaps with the same woman?) resulting in the birth of Rebecca (Poor Single Parent Family) It is therefore Rebecca who has been writing to Carl all along. Whatever Guy and Marilyn were agueing about seems to be important enough to effect the rest of their lives (Guy's reference to being young) if not pregancy then it perhaps something that may involve a criminal record or something like that? I think the conversatio nbetween REbecca and Carl will give us the best clue.

h gray
i thinh it was gemma she seems unstable

Alex C.
Firstly, I want to thank Inspector Lewis Endeavour for being as kind as to reply to my previous request. We will all wait for further tests on Marilyn鈥檚 body.//Now, back to the business: Interestingly enough, and accordingly to today鈥檚 clue (clue number 2), the Professor has been involved in at least one case of aggression to a student. Shall we remember his initial declarations? "[鈥Now can you just clarify why you've got me here? [鈥" He should not be surprised, at all, of being in the accusation list! As far as Carl is concerned, I think he is innocent, and it might have been some other Marilyn Spencer writing him the letters. Therefore I would much appreciate a comparative test on the handwriting of those letters and Marilyn Spencer鈥檚 handwriting. In anycase, there is still no good reason to incriminate the professor or anyone else at the moment, but I still have this felling that Rebecca is the one we are all looking for. Lets see how the story evolves鈥�

David
Gemma is still in love with Guy, and would do anything for him. Marilyn would likely confide in a girlfriend that she was pregnant(?). With the current deals Guy has to complete in Middle East, a pregant girlfriend would lose him those deals. If Rebba was perscribed Rohypol to help with her insomnia, then Gemma could have slipped it into Marilyn drink. While they were talking about Guy and the baby. Gemma was alone in the room. She does have motive and opoortunity.

Antony
Still, I think there is more to Carl than we know at the moment - that accent is never real...

Antony
Maybe this is all irrelevant, but regarding the conversation between Guy and Marilyn in the first clue - could it be related to a clause in Guy`s recently passed away father`s will, rather than to do with a pregnancy? Maybe Guy`s father wanted Guy, Marilyn or both to do something in return for the inheritance? And how did Guy`s father die?

Jon
Ketan, I don't think we have been told until now about any possible pregnancy because the initial investigation did not suggest one. I think that given Carl claiming that he received letters all through childhood from Marilyn rules out the Professor as the person sending the letters to Carl. It does not however, preclude Gemma. My initial gut feelings that Gemma is the murder have not changed, but the Professor is 2nd on my list, with Rebecca as an outside choice.

Ketan
I just wanna know one thing. Are the stories seen on the video the truth or not? And furthermore why are we not told until now whether Marilyn was pregnant or not? It is quite easy I suppose to know that fact and that will lead us to more clearance I suppose. Anyway currently my eye is on Guy and Rebecca

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
In response to Alex C. You can make requests for extra evidence and I will do my best to sort it out for you. Lots of people have been asking for more evidence on the alibis and whether Marilyn was pregnant. I have asked the pathologist to re-examine Marilyn鈥檚 body and asked the suspects to provide a list of anyone who might confirm their stories. Reports to follow shortly.

Tookie
I have some questions. 1) who were Guy's alibi? He was with some friends but who? 2) Can we question Guy as to what "affair" did he not want to be a part of in Marilyn's life? Was she pregnant? What was marylin pressuring him for? 3) Who wrote to Carl? Can we find the letters & perform handwriting analysis? Why would someone pretend to write to carl under pretense of being marylin? 4) How does carl know that the professor is violent? 5) What type of antidepressants did Gemma take? 6) why do the Professor & Gemma think that marylin was a "user"? 7) Can we confirm rebecca's affari with the professor? Needs to confirm all these potential motives: 1) Guy's not wanting to be a part of marylin's "affairs" 2) Carl being rejected as Marylin's brother. 3) Gemma's dislike of marylin for stealing guy. 4) rebecca & highburry's secret affairs being discovered by marylin.

alexandre
Ladies and Gentlemen, the mystery is solved: here are the highlights of the 98 hours preceding the crime. 5th May 2003 15 00 Rabecca and Professor Arthur Highbury are working intensively at the labs. A very important science discovery is about to be made. 20 00 Gemma has a serious chat with her best friend ever, Marilyn. Even though she was stolen Guy, they are indeed best friends. They chat: Marilyn is pregnant from Guy, and does not want to abort. 23 00 Rabecca and the professor are still working hard at the labs. He drives her home. 6th May 2003 13 00 Gemma fells that she has to help her best friend Marylin on her problem. She wants to have a meeting with Guy and Marylin so that they can all, as grown up people, speak about it and solve it in a civilized way. She spends about one hour on the phone with Guy, explaining the whole situation. Guy agrees to meet them on Thursday evening, but not for too long, as he is meeting mates at the college the bar afterwards. 14 00 Gemma, after speaking one hour with Guy, her previous boyfriend, starts felling depressive. Very depressive. She had such a fantastic (and loaded!) guy, and now she鈥檚 alone. 23 00 Rabbeca and professor are working hard on the findings. They have worked the whole day in the labs, and the professor drives her home, at about 2300. 7th May 2003-10-19 05 00 am After speaking to Guy, Gemma got incredibly depressive as she misses him so much. She couldn鈥檛 sleep the whole night. She now fells she has to take an extra strong dose of the anti-depressives she was prescribed. She goes to sleep instantly. 1500 am Rabecca and the professor found it!! A new substance that will completely revolutionize the glass industry has just been found. The work is now finished, and both scientists need a good relaxing time, after having spent the last months working 10 hours a day, on average. The professor gives Rabecca a lift home. By the time they got there, and so excited about the new findings, Rabecca ends up inviting the profeesor for ermmm鈥� a coffee, lets put it this way. They think they鈥檙e alone. 1600 pm After sleeping 11 hours straight, with the help of the antidepressives, Gemma wakes up, helped by some funny noises coming from rabecca鈥檚 room. With all the excitement Rebecca had left her room door open. 1605 pm Gemma, as a fine art student, just can鈥檛 miss the opportunity and takes several pictures of the couple. Without being noticed. 1630 pm The Professor leaves the place, happy and smiley. When leaving, he saw Carl coming back from work, who doesn鈥檛 suspect a thing; after all it was normal to see the professor around, picking up or dropping Rebecca. 17 00 Gemma blackmails Rebecca; she wants the date rape drug from Rebecca, or the pictures will be released in public. Gemma is so depressive: her plan is to drug Guy after Thursday鈥檚 meeting and to sleep with him, at least one last night. 8th May 2003 0700 am Rabecca has a reputation to defend. With her discovery, she is going to be well known worldwide, she cant afford those pictures top be released. She wakes up, goes to the lab, and prepares the drug for Gemma. 1100 am Rabecca gives Gemma the drug. 2007 pm The three of them, Guy, Rebecca and Maryllin meet in their place鈥檚 living room, to have a grown up conversation, and to work out a solution to Marylinn鈥檚 pregnancy problem. 2022 They aren鈥檛 really going anywhere. Guy wants Marylin to abort. Marylin, seeing that is impossible to stay with Guy, and to have a happy marriage, still wants to have the baby, and asks Guy to help her financially. After all he is loaded, and the responsible for her pregnancy. 2025 pm things become tense as Guy rejects any compromising option. The best he can do is to pay for the abortion. 2026 pm Gemma fells that the conversation will lead nowhere, she goes to the kitchen to get some drinks. She puts the drug in the Guy鈥檚 glass. At least, she will have him one last night鈥� 2029 pm Phone call from Carl, who wants to speak to his sister. Gemma, says she cant

Slimady
Definately. Marilyn is pregnant. if you loom at Guy's statement he says "it's not like we were having a baby or anything". Also, In clue 1, he says "if you want it, go to hell". There are all sorts of other references.

Ketan
This is really an excellent thing done by bbc and Oxford. Solving murder case is like solving puzzles in science. Well my opinion from what we have until now goes to Rebecca. Well, firstly the way she speaks doesnot make sense that she is speaking the truth. And further more she is a genius and a chemistry student. She may have use it. But the only thing that is not going into my head is what must be her motive??? Proffessor cannot do it because he doesnot seem to speak the untruth thing although he seems to little bit care more about his status. He seemed to be more high soceital oriented. Gemma I think cannot do it because she says at last that Rebecca cannot kill her( a sense of truth).Carl cannot be because he has not motive. Talking about motive I think Guy is the prime suspect but I just wanna know if Rebecca was pregnant or not.

Jon
I think Marilyn has told Guy she is pregnant, and like others I would like to find out officially if this was the case, to ascertain if she was making it up. What else could Guy be refering to when he mentions a ball and chain?

Minima
When Guy says "it's not like WE are having a baby together or anything", could that imply that he was having a baby with someone else? Perhaps he had gone back to Gemma. It does look like they are in it together, Guy directly suspecting Gemma, and Gemma indirectly suspecting Guy through her hurt and pain(which she says is not directed at Marilyn)if you will notice, the other suspects are reported as being shifty. Isn't it usually the most obvious who is not the obvious? Carl is probably in with Rebecca.

graham
rebecca you have a lot to answer for, i mean a lot.....

Brian
I'd like to see the results of an interview with the Professor's wife and anyone who was in the library at the same time as Rebecca. I would also like to know what kind of wine Marilyn had been drinking, was it "plonk" or something rather classy from the masters common room cellar? The Prof often visited Marilyn's and Rebecca's room, as he claims he didn't know Marilyn, one assumes that he was visiting Rebecca, his "gifted" student, but why? If it was for acedemic purposes then normal practice would suggest that the student would go to the Professor. Were the Prof and Rebecca involved? At the time of her death, it may not have been the first time that Marilyn had been the subject of the "date rape" drug? Maybe the professor had used it before on her, as she would have been unable to recall perhaps when finding herself pregnant Marliyn assumed Guy to be the father, as she believed him to be the only one that it could possibly be, hence there arguements. We need to know a lot more, but at the moment I think the prof might have done it, perhaps with Rebecca's assistance.

Alex C.
PS Given my previous comments I would ask for another medical exam on Marllyn鈥檚 body, to check if she was pregnant. Can we make such requests on this interactive game? well, well, what have we got here? Looks to me that Marilyn is pregnant from Guy, who is persuading her to abort. She does not likes the idea though, and therefore she鈥檚 all stressed out about it. However, this is not a good reason to incriminate Guy and I still have this felling that Rebecca did it(*), but lets see how the story evolves鈥�

Kim
The professor is clearly a suspect for a reason. He probably knew Marilyn in some way he isn't talking about.

Emma
I know this sounds stupid but is it possible that she killed herself? I mean she's pregnant and Guy wont support her, gemma could have turned her back on her, rebbeca doesn't seem to like her and carl is harrasing her. Could it have been her only way out?

Barry
Take the chance to murder her! What? Oh look she's fast a sleep this would be a good time to suffocate her to death. No i think not, this was pre planned

Abdullah
Another idea crossed my mind and I hope it can help you all more or less. Marilyn took a glass of wine with the pills in it. Can we assume that this girl just had an argument with Guy, being unable to sleep because she had problems in her heart? So she took the wine with pills to relax herself and have a nice sleep. And at the very hour, someone came in unintentionally/intentionally and took this chance to murder?

rachel
i think that the proffeser is the murder he is a mean pig

Abdullah
I'd think that Guy should be suspected as well. Date rape pills are easily found in bars, and he likes to drink..

Abhi
Now lets turn our attention to Rebbeca Pallridge...Marys Room mate - child prodigy, nothing to envy from Maryln, occasional fights(which any roommate would have) not related to Guy in any way... To sum it up - No Motive to kill(or shall i say atleast at present)... The autopsy revealed Maryn had been drugged, but you dont need to be a science Grad to do that to your victim...

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
Great work people. Obviously this is early in the investigation but there are some really good theories. If I can draw together some key threads; Lots of you think that the use of a drug implicates the chemists 鈥� RP and AH The conspiracy theorists are keeping an eye on Gemma, she could have done it her self because she is the closest to the edge or she might have encouraged Carl to do it for her. We鈥檒l see more from Carl and Marilyn on Monday.

heston
I think it was the professor. His beard is obviously fake, as if he's trying to hide his identity.

k
rebecca i am only 12 but i have a gut feeling it was her i solved the murder game 2 weeks before the end so beat that

Abhi
Rather than finding the one who did it lets run this the other way round... Lets strike people who would not have done this... Guy Weston is not the murderer, he can be a accomplice but he has seen death already in his family and with the intensity with which he potrays himself to others its certainly not the kind of work which he can carry out

Gareth
Charlotte is defintely preganant. OK I'm only surmising, but I am a hell of a surmiser!! Rebecca is the killer because she was also having an affair with Guy, and was not too happy about Guy's and Marilyn's relationship that she thought was over.

Beth
I think it was gemma. shes no alibi and is obviously still bitter.plus lookin down on the picture makes her look more suspicious. since it was her best mate she thought she could get away with it.

Charlotte.
Ok, I'm having random thoughts now. What if Carl is so obsessed with her, he drugged her to make a move and smothered her in panic when she came to. If she was drinking wine, does that mean she wasn't drinking alone? Carl refers to "her father" not our. This could be explained because he is a bastard child or maybe because he thought of her in a different way. Referring to her as sister in a statement looks like a clever "alibi" then. Gemma is clearly bonkers here. Consumed by jealousy. Obvious motive. I think she'd be the first in custody if this were real.Rebecca seems to be a bit of a loose cannon. You get the impression that she'd have a mighty fine temper on her. Towards the end, she seemed quite scathing towards Marilyn. Had M double crossed Rebecca or did she know something she shouldn't? Proff seems to be a total red herring. But my gut is leaning in his direction at the moment. Definately need more clues first though. Might do some work now!

Charlotte
Arnie, I agree with what you say about Guys lack of emotion but then there didn't seem to be much from anyone really did there? The most obvious suspect would be Gemma but I still can't rid the feeling that the prof is a bit too shifty. I never read she was pregnant either. Have i missed that?

DP
I don't think Marily and Guy were arguing about a pregnancy at all, but another decision they had to make - perhaps to do with the blackmailing of the prof?

Rguilly
Early hunch: Guy Weston. Some of the others are acting suspiciously but they have their own scandals to worry about and with a knowledge of chemistry you might expect a subtler method than the one that was used. Carl Bartlet comes accross as too simple to be in the frame (the crime appears to have been planned intricately, not a heat of the moment kind of thing). In my mind that leaves Guy Weston and Gemma Parker, and I'd be suspicious of Guy at this stage.

Ella
How could the Professor know the boyfirend's name so well if he, as he claims, barely knew Marilyn? I think this slip of the tongue gives him away, if not as the murderer, as someone who is hiding something.

Louise
Am I missing something? Was Marilyn pregnant? I can only go off what is written down because I live abroad and couldn't hear the argument via the computer. Was Marilyn pregnant or are people just surmising?

Jane
I think that some-one is trying to frame Guy - unsucessfully methinks!! I think that the drug used and the fact that a chem student and professor are involved is a bit if a red herring. Need more clues!!

sims
Definately not enough clues yet. But Rebecca and the Prof. definately have the knowledge about drugs.... Gemma on the other hand had anti depressants as the doctor told her, but were they really sleeping pills (Rohypnol) to help her sleep.... who know roll on october 20th

MGirl
Marilyn obviously told Guy she was pregnant as they were arguing about it the week before - but no mention of the pregnancy or a recent abortion in the coroner's report...

tracey
You all need to look at the evidence before making a decision. None of the suspect alibi are strong and they are have their owns reasons and motive. Try to be objective

Louise
At the moment my guess would have to be Guy. Why would Gemma kill Marilyn? I know that more evidence and clues will follow but, at the moment, Guy is my choice. My main reason would be that he doesn't need any embarrassment or scandal to emerge and I think that Marilyn could have provided him with that. Also, we don't know where Marilyn was just before she died. Maybe she met Guy in the pub. It is all to easy to slip rohpynol into somebody's drink. Also, he is already trying to distance himself from their relationship and saying how lovely and popular she was - as if he thought she was wonderful and wouldn't want to kill her himself.

Jon
I agree with Coolbeans in a way. It had to be someone weak, as they used a drug to sedate Marilyn before murdering her. The chosen form of murder also suggests a weak person, as no physical violence is used. I suspect that Gemma had got wind of the possibility that Marilyn was pregnant (they were best friends - so Marilyn may have confided in her). I think that Gemma couldn't bear this - Marilyn pregnant by her boyfriend (she thought he was the ONE) - and decided to act before Marilyn took him away forever.

abi
i think it was the prof as he would know alot about chem, wouldn't he?

Skitters
She wasn't molested, she drank from a glass of spiked wine. Who would she be drinking with? Guy? Don't think so. There's motive everywhere. Not enough clues yet.

Ketan
I think it was either Rebecca or the proffessor because of the use of chemicals. Both are used to chemicals

laston
i think it was gemma, going by the report and the fact that she has no alibi to support her.

kate p
i agree that it is either Rebecca or the Prof. Think Rebecca was made to do it by the Prof as they are having an affair and Marilyn knew about it... need the alibi's all checked though...

Siobhan
I think it was Rebecca. She sounds really jealous of Marilyn and kind of unstable. Also, she's good at chemistry and the coroners report shows that a drug was involved. Wouldn't young Becky know about drugs?

Brad
I don't think it was Gemma as Iomgen said because she would have ben more likely to seek revenge on her ex-boyfriend Guy as it was his decision to leave her for Marylin not hers. She should be angry at him not Marylin.

Brad
I agree with Charlotte with her suspisions towards to Prof. Well done!!

kenny
i think it was gemma you can tell from her report that she was angry that in her words marllyn took him away from me. she said she tried to kill herself but i think she realized why kill herself when she can kill the woman who was causing her pain. and by doing that she would have guy all to herself>

Vibryant Oyster
Conveniently all the suspects suspect a different suspect thus providing everyone with some kind of motive. Carl and Gemma are the only ones without alib's but who can rely on alib's at this early stage. The whole history repeating it's self thing that' going on with Guy, Marilyn and Carl is bound to be a red hearing at this stage. Too early to tell!

Arnie
Charlotte, The thing is you say that them arguing is not important but what is this ball and chain? He seemed so uncaring in his police statement. I know they've broken up but you'd still be a bit gutted wouldn't you

saz
i think gemma did it because she was in love with guy

Dick Tracey
Marilyn obviously upset a lot of people and all of the suspects have reasonable cause for murder. The coroners report does not mention that she was pregnant. Was she pregnant or was she trying to trick the now very wealthy Guy into marriage. What sort of person steals her "best friend's" boyfriend. Relationships were obviously not important to her, but his wealth was. Self centred and greedy. Her new found brother newly on the scene would more than likely be an embarassment to her and I believe she would have snubbed him. Rebecca was having an affair with her professor and as her room mate must have known about it. It is likely that she was blackmailing the prof. Who is likely to have broken off the relationship with Rebecca (Either way a motive for both to commit murder). She was probably a nasty person, but just who killed her.......take your pick. We need more evidence

Louise
Just a couple of points. Firstly, the Professor says that Marilyn was a user, but a user of what? People or drugs? If Guy is treating his father's clients with "kid gloves" surely he wouldn't want them to know that his ex-girlfriend was a drug user. Also, Rebecca said that she was pretty wild and always partying. Secondly, who would have rohpynol in their possession? In the autopsy it says that it is used as a sedative and for treating insomnia. Is this something that Gemma or Carl would have been prescribed?

Brad
From my earlier comment i would like to state my suspisions on the proffesor aswell as Rebecca because of his temper and because of the fact that he kept saying that Rebecca is a good student and his emphasis on his proffesorship seems to me that he is using these points as their defense which seems strange as i really would not emphasis it like he has done. His arrogance in the seems to like he is trying to keep himself in the clear, and my reason for this is that anyone who wants to admit his innocence would do so immediately instead of trying to implicate his and a friend's importance to try and make himself look innocent

aj
i think rebecca did it she seems like the kind of girl to do it

Imogen
it was gemma.she wanted guy back.she was jealous of marilyn and guys relationship,I mean come on,read her statement she tried to kill herself she was in an unstable state of mind. she says she didnt mind anymore about their relationship...but really she did.she killed her best friend.

Geoffrey
I think that Rebecca was not murdered, do we have any doctord note saying she suffered from insomnia?

jack
having gone over all the clues my theory is it was guy weston the professor had a motive but didn't want to lose his job

Charlotte
I also think that at this stage, the fact guy and marilyn were seen arguing may not be that important. They had just split up and things were bound to be tense. plus guy more or less said she was demanding. Although he didn't seem upset. Will need to keep eye on that too.

tracey
i think it was her best friend

Susie
The coroners report shows lots of reasons for the use of the drug. It has been established that rape was not a factor so could someone have been anaesthetising her and then covered her nose and mouth and inadvertently killed her? Maybe a back street abortion. The one thing I cannot find out is where was she found? If it is her own room then the roommate must have spent one hell of a long time in the library, so was she set up with "research" to keep her out of the way?

charlotte
Iagree with Nici. I think something was going on with Prof and rebecca. He was seen by Carl leaving their room wasn't he? Anyway, Prof says he didn't have strength to kill her, indicating that he knew how she died. At the moment i think it was rebecca.

Brad
Having read the 1st clue, the introduction and the alibi statements my suspisions so far go on rebecca as the NHS report said that a drug was used that only a chemist could have done , and also with using university facilities this person would have to be very talented and in rebecca's report it states that she is a talented chemist and emphasises it on the fact that she was sent to Oxford university at the age of only 15

Nici
Having just read the notes etc, I think that Rebecca was having an affair with professor Highbury and Marilyn found aout about it and tried to blackmail them. This would provide a motive for both Rebecca and espically Professor Highbury - but I'm note sure which one did the deed.

Buni
I think it was carl, he mentions in his statement that he is 'good with his hands' and seeing as how Marilyn was suffocated i think he is in his way showing off about his achievement. But i am not real life detective so maybe i am just reading too much into something insignificant

soley
She only met carl recently and he was proberly jealous, she had everything he missed out on. He sounds a little obsessive and at the moment I think he is capable of murder.

David Pearson
I think that it could well have been the professor because he would have easy access to the uni's drug cabinet. He then slipped the drug into Marilyns drink via Gemma who was then payed by him. Then, during the night he visited Marilyn and suffocated her using her pillow while she was still under the effect of the drug. Noone would have seen him because during Spring, the Nights are darker than in Summer.

CJ
What was the motive, me thinks? Marilyn must have known something and someone with alot to lose, wanted to keep that quiet. My hunch at this stage is Rebecca.

BP
Reading the end of Gemma's statement she is almost scornful in her comment about Rebecca being incapable of commiting murder, suggesting superiority because she is capable. Carl is clearly obsessed but if Marilyn was pregnant is more likely to hit out at the father of the baby. Unless he was so obsessed and marilyn rejected him and he went out of control? But at this stage I think it's Gemma. As for the coroner's report, Marilyn was taking the rohipnol to sleep at night - something probably only Gemma or Rebecca would have known.

MissTerri
I don't think it was Carl, he was obsessed with her and after her denying ever contacting him or being related in anyway to him this would have upset him but I don't think he did it. The Prof. was my first choice after watching his video but then after seing the clip and he says 'she will be dealt with' or words to that effect, makes him too obvious too. The roommate (having an affair with proff.) may have given M the drugs and then done it if she suspected M to have beein 'wild' and trying it on with Prof. I think it is too early in the 'game' and we are going to be led all around the roses until the final week, but it is good fun. ps I reckon that carl is being set up for the next murder ( of the Prof!);-)

SP
I'd like to know if the cops have corroborated The Professors and Guy's alibis with wife and freinds / people in the bar respectively.Another thought which could get clearer as it progresses, is there only one person responsible for the murder, what if there is some collusion??

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
So we鈥檝e had the first witness come forward and the coroners report has been submitted. What do we think Guy and Marilyn are talking about here? What details help in the coroners report? I am interested to here what you鈥檙e thinking.

Arnie
Wow Coolbeans has made some good guesses but i don't think it was Gemma. I think it was Guy because like you say Marilyn was pregnant else why would he was "It's not like she was pregnant or anything!". If she was like i suspect then he'd murder her because he's got a lot to lose.

Alex C.
answering DP, the professor knows all those details, as he read those in a local newspaper - so no suspicion shall be made on him based on that. I personally think it was Rebecca, but lets see how the story evolves...

DP
Carl doesn't ever claim to have the same father as Marilyn, this comes from the professor. Carl states that Marilyn 'found him' but neither Guy nor Gemma even mention Carl. Perhaps Rebecca and the Professor had something to do with Carl coming to the College?

A.Deer
So does carl know that he and marilyn aren't related? in that case he knows more than he's letting on and isn't as simple as he looks.. he originally started 'harassing' her because he thinks she's been writing to him in prison (or wherever the authorities locked him up), but why's he still in the picture if he knows the truth? but if they're not brother and sister, what's his connection to marilyn? how did the person that's impersonating marilyn find him??

Coolbeans
Rebecca is having an affair with the prof and Marilyn was blackmailing them. Carl isn't her brother - Gemma wrote to him when he was locked up, pretending to be Marilyn so that he'd be the prime suspect as she denied knowing him. Also, since there were no signs of physical violence it probably wasn't Guy (strong), Prof (violent) or Carl (good with his hands). Marilyn was pregnant by Guy which was probably why they broke up. I think it was Gemma for sure!

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
Hannah do you know something we don鈥檛, John is not one of the suspects. Graham, DP and others have all readily accepted that Carl is Marilyn鈥檚 sister but Kirsty makes a really good point when she says that Carl goes from saying HIS father to HER father, what do you think about this?

Tim Crassly-Blogg
Carl Bartlett did it because his name is an anagram of C. R. Ballet-Tart. That is perverse, wherever you slice it. And only fratricidal gardeners have puce auras and two demarcated eyebrows. He killed her hoping for rich compost for his fuchsias. He's the man.

Hannah
It was definately John. Just read their stories!

suzie
it is so Rebecca have u seen her video its so suppish shes like "the rooms so emty withot her" she just saying it

pmw
it was carl he looks to shifty

AJH
It was Carl. He is lying about his parentage. He is the son of the cousin of the spawn of Satan.

DP
How does the Professor know so much about Marilyn's brother, Father and Boyfriend when he claims not to know her?

Kath
It was murder wasn't it? have we all ruled suicide out?

Love Otter
Would Carl not make a good 'patsy' for someone to frame? I think he is too obvious to be the one.

Frank
If Carl didn't do it I'll eat my pants. He has shifty ears and long hair. I wouldn't trust him with my deer.

rod
Carl. He's a sicko!

Neanderthal
It was blatantly Carl! Look at him!

Alex
Just wanted to say its a brilliant game. I suspect Carl is a very nasty piece of week and I think its him.

Emma Royd
I reckon it was Gemma Parker wot did it. She looks too innocent, sh must be guilty. If you get my reasoning.

Lucy
There is something a bit shifty about the roommate, she may still have been very jealous of Marilyn going out with her ex...

Guy Weston
The obvious expartner. she was probably having an affair or he thought she was

DD
were the prof and rebecca more than pupil and teacher??

Kirsty
Why does Guy mention about Marilyn not being pregnant? Why does Carl go from saying MY father to HER father?

james
her brother seems to have stirred tings up as soon as he got there and in my opinion could have done it. i think the professor isn't to blame even though he can be violent.

Erika
I think it's Gemma - Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned!

graham aitken
at moment my thoughts are on carl being jealous of his sisters popularity and sucsess

G Gilmer
This is kinda strange but personaly I think the proffeser did it! he sounds like a creep

Charm
Im a bit confused. Could someone tell me the whole story, because i have found this page.I love mysteries but i can't get me head sround it. So if someone could tell me everything ten that would great. Also, veryone hear i going for the shifty looking one the nding can always have a twist at the end. So think a bit closer to Marilyn Spencer

sharan
i feel it is the prof. becaues i feel he is the only one acting odd

CP
It's the prof: just look at that beard & beady little eyes ...

BB
Couldn't the professor have been visiting Rebecca nto Marilyn?

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
People have been asking about the coroners report to establish how Marilyn died. We are unable to say for sure at this stage, there are no physical signs of trauma to the body. We are expecting a full report with on Friday.

Kieran
it depends how she died...i mean a chemist grad for a roomate, if she was poisoned, then the roomate could be framed. But i think it was the roomate.

Peter Young
Rebecca makes no mention of the Professor visiting the deceased. I find this odd as she was her room mate.

Kath
Well it is clearly the Prof. Not sure why, its just that he is by far the most shifty.

Inspector Lewis Endeavour
This is the message board where you can leave your comments on the unfolding case. In these early stages I鈥檇 really like your opinions on the suspects police interviews, have you spotted any inconsistencies or do you just have an initial hunch?