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Teenagers investigate gun & knife crime

Gun and knife crime amongst young people has been constantly in the news throughout 2007, especially in London.

A group of young reporters from Headliners - a journalism programme for young people - looks at the problem in the capital by speaking to a teenager, a police officer and two music artists.

Interview with Hackney teenager Nyasha, aged 14

14-year-old Nyasha lives in Hackney and was recently affected by the death of local teenager Etem Celebi. So how does Nyasha feel about the shooting of someone she went to school with?

Despite recent events Nyasha still feels safe in her area; "but it's obviously not safe for other people because, like, he wasn't really supposed to die. But I personally feel safe because I'm a girl." Nyasha says Etem wasn't involved in gangs; and doesn't believe he was targeted by his killers.

"Before you'd hear about boys being in a gang and getting shot. But now you hear about anybody being shot, it doesn't really matter." We understand this sentiment as we ourselves could be in the wrong place at the wrong time and be that "anybody" who gets hurt.

Nyasha

Hackney teenager Nyasha

According to Nyasha, Etem's death had a major effect on her local community. "The other day they had his memorial service and over 1000 people were there. Even though all the different gangs came, nobody came to fight." We think this shows a great respect for Etem and this is the way forward if young people are to put down their weapons.

Research carried out by the Times newspaper has shown that you can buy a regular shotgun from £50 – £200. When we put this to Nyasha she highlighted how affordable firearms can be for some young people; "if you can get a shotgun for £50 you can get that instead of a pair of trainers!"

Nyasha thinks it is unfair how gun crime is often seen as a problem amongst young black people "because the way the media are portraying young black people, some black people are going out and thinking well the media is saying were doing that so we might as well do it."

These cycles need to be broken so more young people can feel safe. As Nyasha points out "whoever's not involved in gangs at the moment needs to stay uninvolved or it's never gonna stop". As a final message for her peers, Nyasha said "put yourself in that position, whoever you gonna go and stab, imagine them stabbing you."

Interview with Steve Tyler, Operation Trident

Inspector Steve Tyler works for Trident which was set up in the 1990s and is a unit within the Metropolitan Police that deals specifically with gun crime in the black community. Steve explains that there is a special unit for this because "for three out of every four shootings that take place in London, the victim and the perpetrator are from the black community."

Advertisements made by Trident have a strong message, such as "A Phone Beats a Gun." The aim of messages like these is to help witnesses come forward with information and prompt people to do something. Steve Tyler also said that the adverts help to reassure people that gun crime is under control.

We asked him if he had the power to do anything to get witnesses, what would it be. Steve said he would, "guarantee their safety and make sure they feel safe. That's one of the biggest hindrances of witnesses coming forward; they feel vulnerable by giving evidence. People are too scared to come forward and talk about the things they know, for obvious reasons."

Steve Tyler

Steve Tyler of Operation Trident

Trident seizes money from drug dealers, "this money is then spent on projects based on tackling gun crime and the rest goes back to central government and they decide how the money is spent". Trident doesn't always have control of where this money goes, but we feel more of it should be invested in youth projects that are geared towards steering young people away from gangs and violent crime.

Trident has also done work with the east London grime group, Roll Deep. They made a song called Badman on behalf of Trident. It had a huge number of downloads and loads of young people listened to it. But even with this success it doesn't mean young people actually took on the anti-gun crime message of the song. Despite this, we think music is still a good way to get through to gun users.

Steve explained that it's important for Trident to use rappers who promote a positive message and help change the culture of being bad to being cool. "Doing this is a big cultural shift but maybe the ball could slowly start rolling. As the message by 50 Cent in Get Rich or Die Trying isn't the best message for young people so maybe the recording companies could take responsibility so these people don't get contracts."

One of Trident's aims is to target young people before they get to an age where they're getting involved in violent crime by helping them to understand the consequences of gun crime. Steve points out that "the reality of gun crime is nothing like the films or computer games, as one bullet can kill you and you can't decide where that bullet is going to go. But the debate for these schemes is how young do you go to help young people avoid gun crime, and you want young people to be aware but not frightened."

We believe it is important to intervene at an early age so young people don't see gangs and violence as a glamorous aspiration. This is what often leads to young people taking each other's lives.

Interview with grime artists, Tinnie Tempah and Bruza

Grime music is often seen as negative and glamorising gun and knife crime. But not all grime artists are the same. Tinnie Tempah chose to take a stand by releasing the single 'Put the Guns and Knives Down'. So we thought he would be a good person to interview. As young people from similar environments we can relate to him.

We caught up with Tinnie Tempah backstage at a youth music event at the Ministry of Sound in London. He was joined by East London grime artist Bruza.

What do you think about gun crime in the UK?

Tinnie Tempah: It's a fast, fast rising problem. At the end of the day we're products of our environment, so obviously it's what we see and it's what we're around daily. But it's got to a position where it's just ridiculous and something needs to be done. I don't think in terms of law and police enforcement and stuff, the problem lies in the homes. It's more of a social problem.

Bruza

Bruza, right, with reporter Antonio

Bruza: Gun crime seems like the new fashion nowadays, you can't really blame the kids for it. You have to blame a lot of other things like media, what they're seeing, what they're hearing, their friends influencing them. Kids ain't got no heroes that ain't talking about guns and carrying guns. People that are doing law, people that are being doctors, they ain't classed as heroes. They're classed as someone that's being boring but they should be looked up to. People that are doing positive music need to be the heroes. There ain't enough of them right now and gun crime's gonna keep going unless that starts changing.

Do you think certain music plays a part, like people from the ends [inner-city] talking about "I'm gonna draw for the nine and catch you?"

Bruza: I reckon it does, in a slight way, because people just think it's cool. It shouldn't. People should be stronger and able to make up their own mind but as Tinnie said earlier, you're a product of your environment. It's a shame and it shouldn't be that way but unfortunately it is.

Tinnie Tempah: At the end of the day music is a form of entertainment so it's down to the artist what they wanna say. As long as you've been given that platform you really don't have to say anything specific or be a positive role model. Little kids are being deluded by what they're seeing and they're thinking it's all real. To an extent it's contributing to the violence but we have to acknowledge other avenues such as films and stuff which kids have been seeing since they were three. So music isn't the biggest problem, but yeah, definitely it is a problem.

What do you think when people say Garage and Grime music promote gun crime?

Bruza: Well as I said before gun crime isn't a problem that the kids have caused. How are kids getting guns? Where do they come from? So the problem's a lot deeper than what people actually think. It's not the kids, its bigger things than that. It's a bigger war. There are people giving us guns to kill each other. We've got to stand up and say why are we using these guns to kill our own people?

Tinnie Tempah

Tinnie Tempah, right, with reporter Antonio

Tinnie Tempah: I don't think Grime music is portraying gun crime. It really all depends on the context and who's saying it as well.

Our opinion is that Grime and Garage are somehow contributing to gun crime but it isn't the only factor. Other issues like home life, violent films and peer pressure also contribute to it. What about young people who carry weapons because their scared? Though as young people, who also rap, we do need to take some responsibility.
We were impressed by Bruza and Tinnie Tempah's mature attitude towards these problems and think that these attitudes should be shared by more rappers and Grime artists.

This story was produced by Andrew Dixon, 13, Arran Sinclair, 17, Odaka Olugu, 14, Antonio Akue, 14, Ghizlan Akerbousse, 15, Cherish Shonowo, 15, Jordan Daley, 13, Jamie Criag, 13 and Zainab Asad, 14, from Headliners, a journalism programme for young people aged eight to 19. www.headliners.org

last updated: 07/05/2008 at 12:15
created: 07/01/2008

Have Your Say

nadia
gun crime is a bad thing to do and you can getv arrested and go to prison so do not do it or don't get in gangs

anonymous
i think boys need to grow up and think about the lives they are taking has no mother should have to lose their sons just so that other boys can have their status. and this knife and gun crime has been happening from SO it just now that the police want to do sumthing about this matter

The Truth
it isn't the guns & knives that are killing people, it is the people taht is killing each other. so blame the people that are killing people. REMEMBER! GUNS & KNIVES DON'T KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!

chefiela braithwaite aka cheffy x x
i think this artical is great because it's teaching young children how bad it is and ow people kill each other for no reason because i lost a friend in nkife crime so we are trying to do something over leicester as well x x x

sarah
gun and knife crime is bad people are killing each other for no reason

anonymous
i think it is absolutely pointless that there is gun and knife crime there is no need for it because inncocent people are getting killed.

john
do they know that you're actually more likely to be killed by your own weapon than by someone elses?

beth
i fink it is terriable that young kids can get guns

JAHsoul aka Dionne
Do any of thes kids who going around killing each other know where it leads to DEATH or PRISON! And none of these places are nice some of these young people think they can never ended up in prison or that someone can also kill you. Its really sad things have got worse and it make me thinkthis is just the begin

Swazy
the way things are becoming in london theses days is terible when i lived in london it was rough but now it's getting out of order. why iz no one proud to be britsh anymore? put down the weapons n chill out das what i say

chezskiixx
hi this artical is excellent it teaches young children the effects of knifes

rachael sam-jolly
where are these young children getting the guns and knifes from? and why is the capital punishment so lenient on them when they commit such crimes that takes the life of another?

valeriya
me and my friends are doing are report on 'gun and knife crime' in london.we interviewed people and now if you listen to the school news report on 13th march and its on the radio.i hope you do ;isten .bye

Akanele
How deep-rooted the problem is in our society is being MASSIVLY overlooked.We know it's wrong, the people doing it know it's wrong. There's very few out there who ae living the life because they enjoy spending almost everday selling drugs to cracked out fiends or bags of green to fellow teenagers and adults.But there are alot of people whose mentality has been warped by the way of life that surrounds them each day, every day, since birth.London is a harsh place to be raised with or without parental guidence. It's no longer just single parent families, every mother and father is working harder than they should to give their children what they want so that they dont have to go to the streets to find it.But the youth of today iunderstand their parents cant make the millions we see so casually paraded on television, so instead of asking their parents who already work hours that force them to come home to tired to give detailed care to their kids, they look to the streets to feed and cloth them.And the streets do that, the money you can make on the roads to many is worth the risk of death or jail.There's no love for fellow human beings (unless their from your hood). Money, Money, Money will always be the root of all evil. But you cant take away the need for money, so what do we do??whose going to feed the hungry mouths of london??whose gunna find a way to teach the streets that they need to educate themselves and not give up on the school system?But then look at the school system...it doesnt exactly cater.But then again do they actually want to help us, why dont we just do it american style, bigger jail, harsher sentences.There's no sloution, only hope.AND MAYOR PLEASE A YOUTH CLUB ISNT GOING TO HELP.

Philp
my neighboor had been killed just because he was just at the wrong place and the wrong time , what is going on? why are people doing this and what are we going to do about it.

Des Evans
stop blaming young people for all the wows of society. Until adults fix up and stop acting like fools things will only get worse. When a MP gets caught spending public money on personal holidays they should be locked up and made a example of. Livingston is emptying my pockets of hard earned cash whilst his crew are robbing innocent communities of well needed youth facilities. Its not supprising that some young people idolise american culture when everytime something goes down ex gang members from states come over to offer solutions. What about our own ex gang members whos voices are not heard? What happened to the angels that used to patrol the tube stations? When I go out on a weekend it is adults I see getting drunk and fighting each other, what are young people supposed to think?The Goverment cause a divide in communities by throwing money at "hot spots" instead catering for the community as a whole.

Ryan
This is not good taken each other lives away.... we need to stop and think.... y do we do this. i lost my older brother and my dad in the army from guns i no ho dabgerous they are. think about it stop. there are people over the seas tyr to save our country dying for US and alll we can do is take 1 an other lfes away think b4 you pull the triggar is it worth it .......................................?

nyasha
This is one of the most touching stories Ive done because of where it hit.thnx for showing it on your website..

Gwen
I do get fed up reading about gun and knife crime..but what can I say we live in a society where its almost reaching to the point where we lock ourselves in our homes fearing to step out the door..a world of the 'survival of the fitest' Enough is enough but dont you think it has been widespread and out of control now..that its to much for anyone let alone the government to handle.You question yourself, where do all these people obtain their guns from! The world is just corrupt and its shameful that underminded people with low morals would take away anothers life,whether caucasian,black origin, asian were all the same..I think its sickening...race hating another race..its sick its just color skin deep we are all equal, I hate racist gangs, what total moron would despise another..RA..needs to stop!I suppose we cant live in an imaginary world thats not full of hatred but its sick how youngsters roam round like there a badderman, I couldnt careless about your status or gang..in my eyes i see us all as equal..how could someone take anothers life..that is just sick!!

LADY ICE
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH MY FRIEND JUST GOT KILLED ON SATURDAY N IT IS COZ OF STABBING I THINK VIOLENCE IS GETTIN REALLY BAD N NEEDS TO STOP N THE POLICE SHOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT AND MY FRIEND GOT KILLED COZ OF SOME STUPID DRUNKEN BOYS WHO TOOK AWAY SOMEONE THAT IS SOOO CARING AND FRIENDLY N IT IT SHAME THAT BLACK BROTHERS ARE KILLING EACH OTHER LIKE THAT INSTEAD OF LOVIN EACH OTHER PLEASE STOP THE VIOLENCE COZ I LOST SOMEONE I LOVE N CARE 4 BIG OR SMALL U CAN GET STABBED OR SHOT NOWHERE I CAN SAY IS SAFE AFTER WHAT HAPPENED ON SATURDAY NIGHT AT EALING PARK TO MY FRIEND N I THINK THAT 24 GR SHOP SHOULD BE CLOSED AS EVERYONE CAUSES TROUBLE N KILL EACH OTHER BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE .FUAD BABE REST IN PEACE WE ALL LOVE YOU AND WE WILL MISS YOU VERY MUCH

unknown
i dont kow when this will end....on my way back from skool i fell very scared to see big ganags on my road that i may be the next victim....i want this to end...NOW

starla mcqueen
i think enough is enough knife and gun crimes is a huge issue and it needs to be stoped now! before another teenager loses his/her life.

Joseph Sales
It's hard to see that crime amongst young people is becoming a worldwide disease. It'a social problem to be tackled not only by non-developed countries but also by the so-called developed ones. What to say about gun crimes in countries like Brazil, for instance, when the British authorities cannot solve such a problem in their own country?

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