Thursday night on air . . .
It's Thursday and we're on air discussing the Aussie Sheik's quote, India's and the Africa prize.
Australian Sheik鈥檚 鈥渕eat鈥 comment
Barbara in a muslim suburb of Sydney: 鈥淚 get respect from the men in my community but the cleric鈥檚 comments come from ignorance of Australian culture. He has shown disregard for the indigenous spirituality of this country. He is on a journey where he needs to learn. He鈥檚 need to go out into the Australian Bush to learn humility.鈥
Muhammad, originally from Egypt but now living in Oz: 鈥淚 feel that he was talking to isolated groups. It鈥檚 not rational. I don鈥檛 agree with him. The muslim community needs a strong reply.鈥
Ros is pressing him for what that reply should be and two e-Mails just in
NO, the apology is not enough. The witch-hunt that the Muslim cleric declared to emancipated women is intolerable. I believe that comparing women to "meat" unveils the real way the Islamic cleric and so many of his fellows consider women.
ISABELLE.
If Pope's apology was enough, so should be this one. At least, both had the courage to speak out loud what they really believe (right or wrong doesn't matter here).
Ali - Stuttgart, Germany
Sigmund is in Melbourne: 鈥淚t鈥檚 a mediaeval way of looking at things.鈥
Rick: 鈥淓ven Jesus indicated that many people were dogs. He should have balanced his comments out but there is an element of truth within the comments. I believe that everybody should be dressed to the highest moral standard.鈥
Comments are flying in:
By saying that women without head scarves are like meat asking to be attacked is admitting that the behavior of its men is as uncontrollable as an animal.
Funny for a group who claims to love all people.
Karen in Holland.
The important Word here is "meat". Covered or uncovered, muslim or not鈥 calling women "Meat" is discusting.
Mike, London.
Rick in Brisbane has been questioned and he鈥檚 hitting back: 鈥淢others instil their priorities in children. Muslims look at western moral decay and they end up rejecting the liberty which they see as the moral decay and use it to ignore the moral depravity of their own extremists.鈥
Des: 鈥淭his has got the potential to escalate.鈥
Some more comments coming in:
What an appalling analogy! Comparing women with meat so easily, while implying that Muslim men are animals without impulse control. Horrifying on many levels.
. . . and another . . .
As I am sickened by the public comments by the cleric discussed on this program today, I am sickened by the remarks of the caller Rick who stated that women bear responsibility for any sexual assaults that they experience merely because of how they are dressed.
Is it to be that women shall always be blamed for crimes committed against them? domestic violence is a crime that is overwhelming perpetrated by abusive, controlling men who should be held accountable despite religious, cultural or personal views.
Erin
India鈥檚 Domestic Violence Act
Monica in New Delhi has experienced domestic violence: 鈥淚t鈥檚 better late than never.鈥
Nazes, the 成人快手鈥檚 SE Asia editor knows India better than most, he says that a lot of this crime goes unreported: 鈥淭he social stigma when women complain is a big pressure.鈥
We鈥檙e taking a break for the news but we鈥檒l be back with Madhu and Gauri from India . .
Madhu says that there was an existing law on the statute: 鈥淲e have already amongst the most stringent domestic violence laws.鈥
Some mails just in:
I see that Indian women are more educated these days, there are more girls in school than ever before, only these dynamics will eventually change the abusive culture for better
KUMAR - OHIO
In India laws are not worth the ink they are written with. Laws are broken even before the ink dries. Education is the only way to improve their living condition.
PRITPAL - NEW DELHI
Gauri: 鈥淭his is definitely a welcome step. I agree 鈥 there was already a law.鈥
Nazes: 鈥淲omen don鈥檛 want to come out and complain against their husbands. They are not economically empowered.鈥
Maneet: 鈥淭here鈥檚 a difference between the rural and urban populations.鈥
More e-Mails on this topic:
The law is welcomed in India, but there are instances when the earlier version has been misused to bring infamy and dishonour to the people. I hope the lawmakers will look into this aspect and the politicians do not get carried away by mere emotions.
N BISWAS - DELHI
Laws coming into family disputes will not change anything. It is the mindset which has to change.
NAGARAJAN - TORONTO
Monica: 鈥淭he culture is not new. Since ancient times they鈥檝e said women deserve to be beaten. It has to be understood that change does not happen with one law. We have to keep on and on re-evaluating. Education alone is not the key.鈥
Madhu: 鈥淚t鈥檚 not so much education. In well-educated societies there is still a huge amount of domestic violence.鈥
Just a reminder that WHYS is coming to the States for the mid-terms. We look forward to seeing you and hearing your opinions. Now on to the world鈥檚 biggest (and possibly only) prize for being a good politician.
The Mo Ibrahim prize for Africa鈥檚 top head of state
Ros is explaining the nitty-gritty of the rules of the competition . . . but will it work?
Olimide: 鈥淚t鈥檚 a novel idea. I don鈥檛 think it will motivate them.鈥
Billy: 鈥淚 understand the cynicism 鈥 the moral fibre of African leaders is wanting. $5m looks like a walk in the park!鈥
Philip: 鈥淚t鈥檚 commendable. Will it work? I don鈥檛 think so. Maybe for the smaller ones.鈥
Ros is outlining how this might just tempt a politician to go straight
Philip: 鈥淭here鈥檚 no reason to wait for a prize.鈥
Dr Akwetey: 鈥淚t鈥檚 too early to say. It鈥檚 a new idea. It鈥檚 put the spotlight on an important problem . . .鈥
Ros is asking the Doc who he鈥檇 vote for but he鈥檚 coming over coy . . .
Texts are flying in to +44 77 86 20 60 80. I particularly like Issa鈥檚 鈥渉oney鈥 quote:
Issa, a Ghanaian in Algeria.
This money should be given to the struggling farmers and starving families rather than adding sugar to the honey.
ELVIS, NIGERIA
"I think it is a welcome development. Another initiative should identify the non-performing leaders and bring them to public ridicule."
Billy: 鈥淗ow much is enough? I like it cos it鈥檚 an African idea for an African problem.鈥
More comments in on the African prize story ...
For many Third world leaders it is not only about money it is also about power + assuring a privileged future for their family and extended family.
Raouf Saad - Canada
Doesn't it show how hopeless the African situation is, that we have to give a $ 5million prize for running a country, a career choice they made?
Mukul Dayton, OH
Philip reckons Tanzania鈥檚 leader should get the prize, Johnson in Tanzania agrees . . . so step forward Edward Ngoyayi Lowassa you are currently in pole position!
We鈥檙e now speaking to a dinner party in Pretoria . . . Someone from Zimbabwe has broken away from the canapes: 鈥淔or Zimbabwe it鈥檚 a bit too late! Maybe next time.鈥
More comments:
Five million? This may work in some countries-poor countries - but not those with oil, gold and diamonds. Corruption is a plague devouring Africa.
CHRISTIAN NIGERIA.
Felix: 鈥淣igerian leaders are so rich - $5m would not add anything to their account. We should give an award for good leadership. We have so many people who are good leaders but they are not in government.鈥
Elvis in Nigeria is sticking up for Mr Ibrahim鈥檚 prize: 鈥淚t鈥檚 not just the money. There鈥檚 the respect and the reputation one could acquire.
More comments:
It鈥檚 a good idea MO, but i'd rather he spend it on the poor Africans. Most African leaders make that kind of money in a day thru embezzlement.
Dan in Uganda
It won't change anything. The money won't change the mind set corruption which endemic. Unless law and order applied fairly then no leader should win it. Why waste such a large sum on an individual? Donate the money to the needy.
Emily in Uganda
We want to know which leader you think should win . . . feel free to get in touch: worldhaveyoursay@bbc.co.uk
Billy: 鈥淣airobians will greet this prize with a big yawn. I don鈥檛 think this will change the current crop of leaders.鈥
Some more comments:
Education of people could do more but it's a good example. Its true leaders need some litmus test on their performers.
BETT, KIPNGETICH BERNARD,MAKERERE UNIVERSITY
No, i dont support this idea, why doesnt he open schools and hospitals which most Africans people need it.
Anonymous
Haambuli originally from Zambia but now in the Netherlands: 鈥淚 think some in Zambia deserve this prize. The current president has done much in agriculture.鈥
Phew . . we covered three continents on tonight鈥檚 programme . . all in a day鈥檚 work for WHYS. Goodnight and sleep tight!
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