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Eddie Mair | 09:32 UK time, Sunday, 15 April 2007

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At 09:30 AM on 15 Apr 2007, eddie mair wrote:
Basking.
At 09:53 AM on 15 Apr 2007, Gillian wrote:
Bostin'!
At 10:37 AM on 15 Apr 2007, Val P wrote:
I'm barking - and that's barking mad, by way of explanation. I'm seriously offended by my recent posts not appearing, this something which, until now, I haven't suffered from :o(

What am I doing wrong?
At 10:42 AM on 15 Apr 2007, admin annie wrote:
an early-ish log on for me to the beach this week as I am off later oday for a couple of weeks. 10 days with my sister and her family in Maryland followed by 5 days with a friend near Toronto.

I shall miss the frog, but life must go on. I look forward to rejoining you all in early May, meanwhile try and behave yourselves, and bear in mind the old adge 'if you can't be good, be careful'.
At 10:51 AM on 15 Apr 2007, wrote:
Basking, but not a shark, I hope. (no. 1)

Some of us have to work today. Stuck in a church all afternoon & evening. It's bound to be freezingly medieval. Pretty glorious right here in Manchester at the moment now though. One of our neighbours is about to start chainsawing. Well of course you'd pick a lovely peaceful Sunday to do it, wouldn't you? Maybe it's a good job I have to go out...

Happy beachcombing to the rest of you.
At 11:14 AM on 15 Apr 2007, wrote:
Isn't it gorgeous! Not too much caffeine though :-(
At 11:14 AM on 15 Apr 2007, wrote:
Push!
At 11:40 AM on 15 Apr 2007, Anne P. wrote:
Might actually need to come to the beach to cool off - can't believe it's too hot to work in the garden by 11am in April!
At 11:58 AM on 15 Apr 2007, Gillian wrote:
Strange......where have the earlier comments diappeared to?!
At 12:16 PM on 15 Apr 2007, wrote:
Erm, Marc? I thin the blog is blogered again! Postings on the Easter beach seem to have been wiped out in a tidal wave!!
At 12:27 PM on 15 Apr 2007, wrote:
Yes what happened to the basking eddie mair ?

Haha, Eddie has been moderated :-)
At 12:43 PM on 15 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
Ed I - Re your flower on the previous beach.

Mrs RJD, who knows about these things, says it is definitely larch - and that was before she saw the scond picture.
At 01:06 PM on 15 Apr 2007, The New Blog Prince aka Marc wrote:
Gillian @ 7 and FF @ 8

Do you mean comments on *this* beach or the Easter Beach? I've just looked at the Easter beach, and the last comment there is

"At 12:50 PM on 15 Apr 2007, RJD wrote: Ap (244) - Could you please join me at the far end of the beach. I really think we should have a quiet talk.
Complain about this comment "

which doesn't seem very long ago! (it's now 13:07 on Sunday 15 Apr)

I've also looked in the admin section of the blog, and there's no obvious problem there either
At 01:22 PM on 15 Apr 2007, wrote:
Marc (11 for the moment),

Thanks for being on the job, and I forgive you for not replying to me as well as Gillian and FF, because my comment appeared and then disappeared as did Eddie's opening message. The thing is behaving completely irrationally.

我的气垫船充满了鱔鱼
(my hovercraft is full of eels)
ed
At 01:25 PM on 15 Apr 2007, wrote:
Well, I know I replied to Gillian on the Easter beach about 9pm last night. It was there this morning before I popped out, but it's disappeared!
At 01:57 PM on 15 Apr 2007, wrote:
Sorry about the confusion over your fabulous Flickr photo's Fred -- and indeed your wonderful new blog!

Lovely pictures though, I wished I knew where to point the lens
At 02:06 PM on 15 Apr 2007, Sara wrote:
I definitely saw two earlier postings on this beach: No 1 was from Eddie who was "basking" and the second was (I think) from Gillian who added "bosting". So - who removed these inoffensive words?!

Btw Ffred - loved your photo and your blog and I agree with everything Gillian said there.

SO has gone off to town to buy a suit. I mean, in this weather ...! The April sunshine is just heavenly, so I think I'll abandon this nice beach for a while and go get the real thing. Will it last? Does anyone know what the long-term outlook is?
At 02:37 PM on 15 Apr 2007, Molly wrote:
Marc (11))

Now, Marc- where has anna Rex's lovely recipe gone? It was on the Easter beach about 7 ish.
I did a reply- no appearance.

This morning. carrots at the ready - recipe gone!
Can you find it or I'll have to speak to Annna and I think she might be cross.....

Mollyxx ;-(
At 02:45 PM on 15 Apr 2007, The New Blog Prince aka Marc wrote:
Sara @ 14 - I also saw both "basking" and "bosting", so I'm at a loss as to why they're now missing.

Mind you, there's something amiss with the 成人快手 online site generally today: the 4th most emailed news story is one from Alistair Cooke's last-ever Letter from America, talking about the Democrats' growing confidence that they have the candidate to beat George Bush in the 2004 presidential election.

Hmmmmmmmm.

I have looked for basking/bosting, and I've finally found them - in the junk section. Not sure how they ended up there when they were approved before. I wonder though if some automated system sees a single word and thinks it must be junk? I've re-approved them so they *should* re-appear.

The Easter Beach is *very* long now, and I wonder if that has anything to do with it misbehaving?
At 03:12 PM on 15 Apr 2007, wrote:
I was auctioned for ?14 last night. That's a pretty strange experience, I can tell you.

The band went for ?30.

Fifi ;o)
At 03:12 PM on 15 Apr 2007, Gillian wrote:
NBPMarc (19) Thanks for your attention, especially on a bostin' day like this. I'm sorry for any one who has to work today.
I think the system's too posh if if thinks bostin' is a junk word. I'll dumb it down with some more Black Country dialect.
It ay arf ot ere. Weem all sweltrin. I ope it'll cool down a bit fer them that's werkin tomorrer. It bay fair, bin it?
At 03:52 PM on 15 Apr 2007, Sara wrote:
Brilliant, Marc, they have now reappeared. Thanks.

How dare any moderator classify Lord Mair's extraordinarily intellect-defying and challenging comments as Junk!

(Well, some of them are intellect-defying, anyway)

I do hope Lord Mair has been enjoying his basking. Why aren't you out in the sunshine too, Marc?
At 05:17 PM on 15 Apr 2007, Frances O wrote:
Lovely warm summer evening in spring. Even HG's dog is being (relatively) good.

What's 'bosting'? Is it like basting?
At 05:26 PM on 15 Apr 2007, Aperitif wrote:
I see Eric was basking two minutes before he even created the beach. That nman is clearly all-powerful.
At 05:45 PM on 15 Apr 2007, wrote:
Afternoon everyone! What a wonderful day!
Do I gather there's been some slippage today?

Is that why Eddie appears to have been basking a full two minutes before the beach was even created? The 'face of Bo' did tell Dr Who yesterday that he wasn't alone... do you think we have a timelord in our midst???

There's some Bombay Sapphire on the bar with tonic and limes. Help yourselves, I'll see you all later!
At 05:53 PM on 15 Apr 2007, The New Blog Prince aka Marc wrote:
Gillian @ 20 - I'm not at work, I'm doing this from home ;-)
At 05:55 PM on 15 Apr 2007, Anne P. wrote:
Marc,

Another oddity - my (trivial) offering, which included Darjeeling and apologies for having been too busy to catch up properly, made on the Easter Beach this morning has failed to appear. However, just after I posted it I appeared as a 'recent comment' on the right hand side.

I think the right side doesn't know what the left side is doing....
At 05:57 PM on 15 Apr 2007, wrote:
Re; Molly -

I have an idea about what became of Anna's recipe.

The Blog - which is getting bigger than all of us - either ate it - or rejected it because it thought it was junk food.
At 06:21 PM on 15 Apr 2007, Anne P. wrote:
Sara (17) Met office long term forecast is for a hot summer with odds of 1 in 8 for a very hot one. They are hedging their bets on rainfall amounts so far.
At 06:25 PM on 15 Apr 2007, Frances O wrote:
Oh, I know - bosky!
At 06:26 PM on 15 Apr 2007, The New Blog Prince aka Marc wrote:
Anne P @ 27 - I have found your comment and approved it, so it should now be on the beach.

:-)
At 06:27 PM on 15 Apr 2007, nikki noodle wrote:
Evening froggers !

Back in from a weekend full of April, and it's hard to say which is more gorgeous - the Beach or April!!!

So much to catch up on! Just filled through briefly, and it seems as if fifi's be sold, NBPMarc is on "overtime" or something *much* stronger (!!!) and the blog has begun to think for itself...
..thanks GM (25) for the update tomorrow!! (??!) ;->

toodle pip !!
nikki
At 06:29 PM on 15 Apr 2007, Molly wrote:
Jonnie (22)

Perish the thought!
on the other hand, perhaps a bowl of hot steaming soup, lovely though it WOULD have been, on a dayy like today?.....

But what can I do with 18 scrubbed carrots?
answers on a...actually,perhps not!

Mollylxx
At 06:29 PM on 15 Apr 2007, eddie mair wrote:
Marc, I was definitely there then not there
At 06:32 PM on 15 Apr 2007, Frances O wrote:
bosting: a bit ambiguous
At 06:43 PM on 15 Apr 2007, wrote:
Eddie (34 (for the moment))

You were not alone.
Is the frog having a near-death experience?

(lā afham - I don't understand)
At 07:09 PM on 15 Apr 2007, The New Blog Prince aka Marc wrote:
Eddie @ 34

I know you were there, then *not* there (it took me a while to get what you meant the first time...) as i saw the post early this morning when I logged in from my phone in bed (technology, ain't it great...?)

I am flummoxed as to why your post - of anyone's! - would have ended up in junk *after* being approved.

I shall investigate on my return to the office in June 2008. Or Tuesday. One or the other, whichever comes sooner.
At 07:44 PM on 15 Apr 2007, Gillian wrote:
Fifi, you forgot to tell us what your purchaser gets for his ?14..........

Frances O (35) There's nothing ambiguous about it....though there is no 'g' at the end. It does indeed mean both things, as in
''The Blog was bost today, but when it's werkin it's bostin'''

Should I put that forward as a strapline, do you think?!

NBPMarc (37) I'm sorry you had all this to deal with on your day off. Take a day off in lieu....ie throw a sickie ;o)
At 07:55 PM on 15 Apr 2007, Gillian wrote:
Ed I....in case you didn't catch this earlier, Mrs RJD and I both think your lovely tree is a Larch - maybe some kind of hybrid?
At 08:23 PM on 15 Apr 2007, Val P wrote:
I give up - I've just posted a huge comment, been told I was maliciously fast, then when I used the back button to retrieve it (as per usual) it had disappeared!

All I was trying to say was that my posts over the last couple of days complaining about my posts not appearing, are probably all in the junk mail. So that's ok then :o(

Whatever happened to All Will Be New And Shiny And Well in March??
At 08:28 PM on 15 Apr 2007, Aperitif wrote:
Ed (36), I listened to the clip on your link and -- eh?

Is it down to me to say the obvious about Eric not being all there?
At 08:43 PM on 15 Apr 2007, wrote:
Mmmm Gillian - after looking at the latest picture Ed I put up on the Easter beach I'm surprised he wasn't moderated! And all that talk of ejaculation - even if it does me a loud scream according to Websters! Do you think Spring has sprung early for Ed!

As for Eddie - poor thing. Fancy being moderated :-( - mind you he was basking two minutes before it was possible, as Anne pointed out.

I think Marc will have a busy day on Tuesday - bless him, he is good to us. He'll be overtaking Lisa in the rankings soon I fear.

Could I just convey a message from all of us as regards to the recent concerns for the welfare of Alan Johnston.

As Fifi and Gillian put it on the latest thread:

Prayers, fingers crossed, touching wood ... anything to bring him home safely.

We are all thinking of you, Alan, and your family, friends and colleagues
At 10:08 PM on 15 Apr 2007, wrote:
Gillian : I have stated very strict conditions. I'll play and/or sing eye-wateringly rude songs for up to 2 hours, and expect to be plied liberally with drink towards the end.

Alternatively I'll sing jolly folk songs for a family audience, or just plink becomingly in the background of a posh dinner party.

Basically, I'm offering to take over from the CD player at the event of the bidder's choice.

The same bidder also bought a gent's haircut ... he has suggested I might play for him while he's having it done!

Fifi ;o)
At 10:12 PM on 15 Apr 2007, Anne P. wrote:
Thinking of Alan Johnston and his family and hoping desperately for a safe outcome.

Marc (31) thank you.
At 10:32 PM on 15 Apr 2007, wrote:
Am I the only person watching Foyle's War and wondering how come everyone in Hastings seems to have had a phone, and used it quite casually?

I grew up in the 1970s and even THEN not everyone had a phone in their home! (Or were we just poorer than I realised at the time?)

My Grandad even had a payphone in his house, for the use of his caravan site customers. Button A and Button B!

Fifi
At 11:32 PM on 15 Apr 2007, wrote:
Yes Fifi (45) exactly and there don't seem to be many of those button A & B payphones around on the set! Also, what happened to the little boy between him being looked after by the driver and going to the convent - he appears to have been left on his own!

****

As on the next thread also, thoughts with Alan Johnston & his family & friends for news of his safe release.
At 07:19 AM on 16 Apr 2007, Molly wrote:
Fifi (35)
As a resident of the place in question (anyone else out there?) I can only assume that 'we' weree then, as now, delightfully progressive and competent in the mastery of new technology.
(so where did I miss out!)- never mind- anyway I have noticed that the local junk/secondhsnd/prop shops which do supply lots of props for t.v always have masses of really lovely vintage phones available.
Next time I'm browsing in the lovely 'prop' shop (well worth a vist in the Old Town) I'll see what they know.

More importantly- Alan Johnson- everything crossed.

Mollyxx
At 09:45 AM on 16 Apr 2007, Sara wrote:
Thanks for the weather outlook, Anne P - I am feeling quite optimistic despite it being Monday morning! And Fifi - shame on those bidders! You are definitely worth a heck of a lot more than ?14. At least ?14 19s 6d don't you think? You can see from this that I am missing buttons A and B too.

I just hope the rumours about Alan Johnson will prove to be false and he will get home safely. It must be such a terrible ordeal for his family and friends and absolutely shocking for him, given the wonderful work he was doing for the people there.
At 09:54 AM on 16 Apr 2007, witchiwoman wrote:
Morning all - seems like a slightly confusing weekend amongst the dunes! Weather is definitely better here than it has been in my little corner....wasn't great the last few days and v grey this moning too.. Hey ho, at least here I can bask a bit (theres that word again!!); have a real thirst fro EG tea today, anyone fancy sharing? Plus some buttermilk scones on the bar xx
At 09:55 AM on 16 Apr 2007, Belinda wrote:

Can I ask what the significance of the second picture down is to this story? I can't see these guys using the PM frog, even if a faster broadband is available to them - although they look pretty happy with the prospect.
At 10:48 AM on 16 Apr 2007, John H. wrote:
Hey Belinda (49), they make an important point. I think that sheep is one of my neighbours (it's a texel, isn't it?) - and they are constantly complaining about the available bandwidth. The telephone lines around us are fairly basic (and "long") and, regardless of the package you go for, the best download speed you can get is around 1 meg. I'm guessing that the reason most people aren't complaining about this is because (1) enabling the exchanges came pretty late, meaning that it still feels quite novel and (2) the previous 56kbps was rarely achievable on dial-up - more like 30-35 AND it used to drop constantly. So the improvement is currently more noticeable than the limitations!
At 11:05 AM on 16 Apr 2007, John H. wrote:
Or is it a cheviot? I'm not very good on sheep.
At 11:21 AM on 16 Apr 2007, wrote:
John H,
Is that your opinion or the sheep's?
xx
ed
At 11:41 AM on 16 Apr 2007, John H. wrote:
It's mutual! ;-)
At 11:49 AM on 16 Apr 2007, Izzy T'Me wrote:
Mornin' all. Haven't been able to see your hand in front of your face here - yesterday or this morning. Glad the rest of you were able to bask, or otherwise.

What do you get if you cross a sheep with a frog..............?

;-)
At 11:50 AM on 16 Apr 2007, Izzy T'Me wrote:
Incidentally, apparently, I've been too quick to post. Too quick between my last on Saturday and my first this morning?!!
At 12:07 PM on 16 Apr 2007, Big Sister wrote:
Eddie (34):

"I was definitely there then not there"

Hm. A role beckoning in a new series of The Invisible Man, perhaps?
At 12:49 PM on 16 Apr 2007, Belinda wrote:
Ed I - I spent a good few minutes looking around your web-site yesterday, very nice!
At 01:16 PM on 16 Apr 2007, Belinda wrote:
Baaing Bandwidth:

John h: But surely, even with a broadband bandwidth of, say, 1000 miles per gallon (or whatever the units are), then doesn't your computer has some limitation on how fast things can be downloaded? Wouldn't you get to a stage where it goes so fast that you wouldn't physically notice any difference? I have no knowledge of these things so I'm probably wrong and happy to admit it!
At 01:31 PM on 16 Apr 2007, wrote:
Belinda (58),

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. It seems I was '' before there was a name for it. Don't know what to do now, what with all this 'free' space for and ...

And P.S., What about and for intriguing stuff? Use arrow keys to pan around (and up - look at the roof!)my daughter-out-law's studio and their Master bedroom, all self-built luxury...

Ahhhh, the technology!
xx
ed
At 01:44 PM on 16 Apr 2007, John H. wrote:
Well Belinda, there's the rub. Where exactly is the point where extra bandwidth just ain't worth the bother? Personally, being a constant net user, but not engaging in movie downloading, I think that 1000 mpg on the urban cycle is OK. But it does take a while when I need to transfer large files, when I receive big email attachments, etc, and on these occasions, I would welcome better economy for the extra-urban cycle - and those people who have got 4 or 8 meg make me slightly envious.

The point is that most of us could not have imagined being online and having access to the web, say, 15 years ago. And what we take for granted now in terms of content would have been inconceivable even a decade ago. I think the study you linked to is suggesting that continued "progression" requires more bandwidth to be available so that things like on-demand TV can be more akin to the full screen TV experience you're already used to - rather than the youtube one.

It's at times like this I like to remember the fairly lengthy period in the early nineties when I didn't have a phone. Couldn't afford it. It's very easy to lose your sense of perspective. Quite a lot of years ago, I bought a piece of software online and over my dial-up modem, it took about 3 days to download it (not continuously, you understand!). Now I can download similarly sized updates in a few minutes - times really do change!

On preview, I realise that I haven't actually addressed a central part of your question - "other limitations". Yes, theoretically, you could imagine a limit on what you could do with the information capacity that was available to you. A good example is a person typing on a current PC - a lot of spare cycles, there. But, what usually happens is that you adapt what you're doing to consume the newly available data - "listen again" is a good example. So is HD on the telly box - I guess it's a kind of "push/pull" relationship: "need more information" leads to "got more information" leads to "wow, now I can have this much information, what can I do with it?" leads to "bugger, need more information"...
At 02:04 PM on 16 Apr 2007, wrote:
And as memory expands and processor speeds accellerate, out goes any discipline in efficient code.
xx
ed
At 02:34 PM on 16 Apr 2007, wrote:
Oh Ed, you've shattered all my illusions. I thought that the reason why Win95, Win98, WinXP and Win Vista (successively) all needed more hard drive space, memory and video RAM was the massively increased functionality and all the new toys they give us to play with?

I didn't realise that they were all bloatware, done by amateur coders. I wonder just how much 'junk DNA' there is in Vista?

Si.
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At 04:14 PM on 16 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
Ed I - You'll never win the Lottery with those numbers!
At 04:57 PM on 16 Apr 2007, wrote:
Ed, can I add an order of rice to that list?
At 05:56 PM on 16 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
Jonnie (28) - how dare you! Junk food indeed. Tut.

Mollie (18) - hello :-) I don't do cross. Well, not easily anyway, and never with a frogger.

Here's what to do with all those carrots:

1. chop an onion, gently fry it in big pan in a little olive oil (or butter if you're that way inclined) until onion is soft, not very browned.
2. chop the carrots into big slices; add to the pan; add 1.5 - 2 pints veg stock (cheat: use good buillon powder dissolved in boiling water). Bring to boil; simmer for 15-10 mins
3. add loads of fresh coriander - MUST be fresh!
4. whizz it up
5. reheat; stir in some double or soured cream (see butter comment! - I find it plenty creamy & naturally sweet enough without cream); garnish with chopped coriander
6. Enjoy!

Let me know how you get on. It's basic but remarkably good, and dead quick.

How is everyone this evening? I had a massage this afternoon so I am sublimely relaxed, and that lovely scent of lavender, bergamot & basil you can all smell: that's me!
At 06:04 PM on 16 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
ps just to say, I spent all day Sunday shut indoors doing voluntary & charitable acts, some of which were even appreciated. I gather it was warm or something. Glad certain people managed to bask....

Do I get first glass of wine for being such a martyr? Must be careful drinking post massage though - tend to get very drunk very fast. Let's test that....
At 06:09 PM on 16 Apr 2007, Val P wrote:
FEARLESS - are you still there? Here's the bar I was recommending you to visit on Thursday night when you were at a loose end in Budapest, and I was so rudely modded, it would seem, Perhaps because I gave the address in Hungarian and they didn't like that?

As you all know by now, I still haven't learned how to do links, but you can cut and paste if you're interested!

Busy now, back later.
At 06:14 PM on 16 Apr 2007, Gillian wrote:
Anna Rex (67) Ooooh, would you give me a foot massage please? I have already paddled in the sea.
Accompanied teenage daughter to B'ham Dental Hospital today, and spent the rest of the day shopping.....I hasten to say that she was spending her own hard-earned cash, for a change.
I bought myself some lovely clear Jelly-shoes, with a trendy ankle-strap. Just right for walking on the sand when it's too hot for bare feet. But ooooh, my feet....!
At 06:37 PM on 16 Apr 2007, Aperitif wrote:
Apparently I'm not allowed to tell John H what it doesn't say about him on the toilet wall. I tried -- but have clearly been moderated.

And by the time my "yes please" to Anna Rex's massage offer got through to the Easter Beach she'd gone.

Having a bad day :-(
At 06:42 PM on 16 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
Gillian - ooh, are jelly shoes back? Don't you just love the 80s!! Can't move for black leggings round here. I'm told that they are to be avoided if you remember the 80s from the first time around. Like we needed telling?!

Now, this almond oil will do wonders; and lavender extract for its (alleged) healing properties, for those tired, pretty feet. Me, I just like the smell. Of lavender I mean. Here, have a drink while I get to work. There's a (little) bit left in this bottle... Might be an idea if someone got some food going.

I hope daughter is OK - dental hospital sounds a bit severe.
At 07:03 PM on 16 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
Apy, my friend, come over here. Bring your neck & shoulders with you. I have a perfectly masculine mix of oils & extracts, just for you. The day is not yet lost.
At 07:42 PM on 16 Apr 2007, wrote:

U. S. NEWS
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“Thought it was spam.”

ALSO IN THE NEWS . . .

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At 08:57 PM on 16 Apr 2007, Aunt Dahlia wrote:
Hello all. You'll be relieved to learn that BT have conjured up an engineer - who cannot find a solution to the problem, except its not BT - wrong wires, or too many extensions, and maybe the washing machine is affecting it. The washing machine??? Nothing, absolutely NOTHING to do with capacity, or us being on a spur at the end of the line, or the wires being old and inefficient. Nope, none of them. Apparently we can expect this. Despite 5 months of perfect operation, and a neighbour who has faultlesss service from Zen, and him being the only other house on this line. This may never arrive, but we've had a connection for at least an hour so here's hoping.
Now N-N was organising a ball wasn't he, I like them, been hearing lots today.
AAAAAAARGHHHHHHH
At 10:37 PM on 16 Apr 2007, Perky wrote:
I don't know - the first time I've been on the beach for ages and there's no-one here. Do excuse me whilst I go foraging around for any bits and pieces that may be left over from the weekend - or indeed from the Easter beach, as I don't really care what condition chocolate's in.

I have brought a small offering of home-made gingerbread, which is just the right consistency, although it could do with a little more ginger - but that's what happens when you leave the 10 year old in charge of baking. Count yourselves lucky that she didn't use paprika instead.....they are nice though, so please help yourselves.

Any progress on the song? Hellloooooooo??
At 11:22 PM on 16 Apr 2007, Molly wrote:
Anna Rex(67)
nical for me
Aren't you good- thanks for that- will never know where you went first time round...

Can I discuss plastic sandals- this place is getting way too technical for me. I've already spent hours having 'upgrades'-now I dont recognise my laptop - wish i hadnt bothered!

RJD (65)
He hehe- wish I'd said that!

Mollyxx
At 11:43 PM on 16 Apr 2007, Chris the Pickle wrote:
Val P - is that your picture of a moose on the Refuge? I howl with laughter every time I look at it... I might just print it off and stick it on the office wall for the giggle-factor on harrowing days!

Please say it's you running away from the magnificent beast! I know I'm sounding a tad cruel, but my sense of humour has got the better of me!

Chris the P
XX
:O)
At 11:57 PM on 16 Apr 2007, Val P wrote:
Appy - and just how, exactly, would you know what it says about John H on the toilet wall? Gents or Ladies??? I gather this is with reference to 52? Room for another little un(e) in the Naughty Corner I think ;o}
At 12:27 AM on 17 Apr 2007, Aperitif wrote:
Oh Thank you Anna Rex, I needed that! May I ask: Why a masculine mix? Do I have "hint of bloke" about me now? Is that why the lady camels are looking at me that way? Yikes! ;-)
At 12:30 AM on 17 Apr 2007, Frances O wrote:
Oooo! How exciting! My humble strapline up today. So it does work, froggers, it's not only our Feefs.

Sara (48), mega-giggles, you clever thing.

Gillian: ah. Or is it ar. Bostin Bluck Cuntray stuff, anyway. House Guest is part Black Countrish, so you provided more giggles.

John H (52) - how are you with the stag and the black, black oil? Er - that's not as rude as it may seem. I hope.

Ed I: I could happily live there. A kitchen with crammed bookcase. Dried herbs. Yes! But (64) you what? Uh? Am I being silly? Cos that's well over my head. But giggles to FF and RJD.

Seeing your latest post, I can quite see why you've made your move.

OOoooohhh, Anna, lovely recipe for a scrumpty soup and, gosh, I bet you smell sublime.

Oh, me? Had a great day with Best Friend at an organic products fair. Saw Al Gore's film about global warming.

Night, all! Nudge my hammock when it's coffee time (grin again)
At 12:43 AM on 17 Apr 2007, Aperitif wrote:
52 Valery? Exactly so... budge up the bench naughty folk... ;-)
At 12:49 AM on 17 Apr 2007, wrote:
Re: Perky

The blog is a Nightmare at the moment. I've just been watching *telly*to illustrate I'm not really that sad to constantly monitor the PM Blog. However it has taken over one and a half hours for a comment I made on another thread to appear.

Alas it can take the impetus out of this medium. Well for some of us anyway!
At 01:06 AM on 17 Apr 2007, Frances O wrote:
Oh, crumbs, radio news reminds me just as I'm going to bed -

Did I say I saw Al Gore's film today? Which sort of leads me on to Michael Moore's 'Columbine' film and the terrible shootings in Virginia.

Can they not see how rampant gun possession leads to this? Am I being unreasonable?

Sometimes I give up on the human race.
At 01:36 AM on 17 Apr 2007, wrote:
Frances (84),

"Sometimes I give up on the human race."

Only the 'mericans and all those who would imitate or encourage them.
(64) was a first attempt at this:
知者不言。言者不知。
which translates as, "Those who know don't speak; those who speak don't know", one of my favourite bits of Lao Tzu, and you can have it with flied rice or boiled.

Perky, the latest mix is at Jonnie's beach

xx
ed
At 08:31 AM on 17 Apr 2007, wrote:
ValP, I'm sorry to say I'm back already, so I didn't get a chance to try out that bar. Maybe next time I'm over there :-)

Okay, I come bearing a large pot of freshly brewed Jamaican Blue Mountain for those that want caffeinated beverages this morning...
At 08:48 AM on 17 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
Aperitif (80) - shows what trouble you can get into when you make assumptions.... I always had you down as a chap! Sorry! Delighted to have you on our side :-) Here's a delicate jasmine-scented candle to make up for it. Should keep you nice & relaxed all day.

Am I first up this morning? Coffee on the bar, and toast. Light brekky, I'm afraid, but there's a good reason: I'm going to Betty's for lunch, so promise to bring back a trolley full of goodies.

Ooooh, it's such a sunny day!
Anna x
At 09:33 AM on 17 Apr 2007, Anne P. wrote:
Had to drive SO to the station this morning, a journey which without rush hour, kids back at school and massive roadworks would take about 10 minutes each way - I was out for an hour.

So soothing herbal teas on the bar, and I might be asking for a massage later after I've planted some more potatoes on the allotment. Something with lavendar oil would be nice.
At 09:48 AM on 17 Apr 2007, Belinda wrote:
"Sometimes I give up on the human race."

I would just add that I only give up on those who try to interfere with the lives of unwilling others - be it through illegal invasion, terrorism, religion, media or market research. I would be far more charitable towards the human race if they just left me alone.
At 09:49 AM on 17 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
I think I'd better just pop out to buy more oils & essences......
It's doing wonders for the skin on my hands, mind you :-)
At 10:19 AM on 17 Apr 2007, wrote:
A "mast" year?

Some more overlooked (or overlooking?) .

xx
ed
At 10:53 AM on 17 Apr 2007, Perky wrote:
Anna (87) Betty's is one of the things I'll miss when we move south - although I'll still get stuff by post, I guess. We gorged ourselves on their hot cross buns over Easter without any guilt at all (well, maybe just a little). Have fun!
At 11:06 AM on 17 Apr 2007, Izzy T'Me wrote:
Ok, having thrown in my half pees worth on other threads, I'm off to try to research and write an assignment with the eddifying (hmmm?) title of "Risk Assessment Protocol for the Prioritisation of Remediating Contaminated Land".

If anyone wants to join in, they're most welcome, otherwise, I'm the bored one in the corner!
At 11:13 AM on 17 Apr 2007, Aperitif wrote:
Perky (92), Yummy yum -- Betty's. Best friend lives near a Betty's (although is moving soon). We pulled in Betty's once. Can you believe that? No one else does but it is true. Gorgeous food and gorgeous blokes all at once. It was a true Utopian moment...
At 12:58 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Perky wrote:
Oh look - it's September again . . . . .
At 01:18 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Fiona wrote:
Oh dear, every week is the same - I'm hardly online over the weekend and then by the time I catch up with everything on all the various threads its the end of the week again!

Anyway if anyone has a couple of mins to listen, please pull up a sun lounger and help yourselves to a cup of tea, there's a pot brewing....

I am sorry to bring my own personal issues down here but you all seem such as wise, experienced and knowledgeable people that I thought you could help. I just wanted to find out if anyone was an "expert" on depression. Have mentioned before my sister was left by SO for a newer model after 20 years of marriage. That was over 2 years ago and she is really no better somedays than the day he went. Doesn't help that he now lives abroad and so was back for the Easter hols which opened up the floodgates again. Now she is constantly looking back to the once perfect life she had that she no longer has. I find it extremely difficult to talk to her quite often because ever suggestion made seems to be thrown back. There is a lot of anger, bitterness and resentment there and if I try to make positive suggestions they can often be met with an almost angry response. I find it hard as I think I am quite a positive person and I cannot understand why she cant want to do whatever it takes to improve life, and I guess as I met SO relatively late in life and have had plenty of experience of being dumped I can't imagine what its like to have had just one love.

Anyway so sorry to bring this up but am really at a loss and was hoping some may have some helpful advice?
At 01:25 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Sara wrote:
Oh dear. September again on the main thread and this one seems a bit topsy turvy datewise. I wish they would get it right because April 17 is my birthday so if it's September I shall miss it.

In honour of my remarkably boring special day at work in April, here's some good French bubbly stuff and a bottle of Kir for those who like to mix.

I'm going to sit here under the NC bar with a couple of bottles all to myself and get drunk. May as well. Nothing else exciting happening.

Eddie - today of all days please don't tell me to get on with my work. I don't want to.

Love the strapline, Frances O.
At 01:56 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Gossipmistress wrote:
Fiona (96) so sorry, poor you, and poor her. Has she asked her GP to get her referred for any counselling? Might help to let it all out to someone else - it must be exhausting for both of you.

Cognitive therapy? Self-help book? Distraction is good, but difficult if she's very self-absorbed. I do sympathisex
At 02:25 PM on 17 Apr 2007, wrote:
Fiona,

Cheer up! Most good comedy comes from depressives.

xx
ed
(I'm on either the fifth or sixth variety of pills, and with no effect noted...)

It's all the fault of our Great Leaders, the Media, Other People, The Economy, GloMart, The Russians, The Arabs, The Jews, You lot,....
At 02:27 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
Perky - I did think of you, moving away from Yorkshire. BBP is some comfort - I use it for the odd pressie for southern friends, tho it's not cheap.

Aperitif - wish I had your luck! Still, the food was gorgeous.

Big plate of Yorkshire Fat Rascals on the NCM bar. I await RJD's comment..... ;-)

Fiona (who gets the first Fat Rascal and a cafetiere of Bosque Lya because her need is greatest): you're in good company, hun, and don't apologise. First the disclaimer: NOT an expert, but quite a bit of 3rd party experience (as have many froggers, I detect). I guess you'll be coming in for most of the flak, since you're someone your sis can show her real emotions to without fear of being dumped. If you can continue to show her complete acceptance & love while she's at her angriest / most depressed, you'll be more help to her than she ever knows. 2 years is and isn't a long time... I guess she was no more than a young adult the last time she was single, whereas those of us who have been round the loop, on way or another, many times, have a completely different coping mechanism, as you realise.
It does sound, though, like she's not been able to process a lot of how she feels, and that's not a happy or healthy way to live for any length of time. Unless Aperitif can take her to Bettys and replicate the art of pulling (I'm joking...)... A new relationship would probably help tremendously, but she's unlikely to fall into one of those if she's feeling so bad in herself. Have you dared mention the idea of counselling? I know, I know, some froggers will mock the idea. But they're just the fortunate ones who haven't ever seen the need, and good on 'em. As for the rest, who've had personal need or been brave enough to push our loved ones in that direction, I suspect many will testify to the help it's been. Mind you, it's a rare beast who accepts the suggestion of counselling/therapy without a fight, so be prepared to be shouted at some more. But she may thank you in the end. The alternative is for you to continue to be her support - which I'm sure you will anyway - but do you have the space, time, strength (hard when it's someone you love) to be everything she needs?
Maybe a good book would be a starting point - and I'm afraid 'recovering from relationship break-up' is the gaping hole in my otherwise quite well stocked library. I'm sure other froggers can suggest good titles.

I ought to reflect on this a bit more before sending, but wanted to get something, however inadequate, back to you fast. Hope nothing I;ve said has offended you. Big hug.

Anna xx
At 02:37 PM on 17 Apr 2007, wrote:
Fiona;
Thanks for the tea. Ooh, and Rich Tea biccies too. Lovely.

I can sort of relate to this myself from a couple of different views. My marriage ended last year after nearly ten years, the last two of which were a deteriorating mess. Frankly I was relieved when we finally crossed that line. I felt like a weight had been lifted from me. So it is possible to see a positive side.

Different situation; My best buddie owns a guesthouse in Brighton. Unmarried. Had a couple of bad experiences with girlfriends in his late 20's which scared him off. He is tied to his place, with no hope of relief. His biggest asset, the hotel, is also his millstone. He knows it too.

He's slumping back into depression, which had dogged him for a while in the early 90's. I've tried to break him out of it. He needs to sell the place and get out before it kills him. He also knows this, we've discussed it and I've pitched a few eminently sensible ideas at him, like you with your sister. But he won't do it from fear. He knows how to do what he does and the place is profitable. But he cannot conceive of anything else that he can do and wonders how he can get out. He wants to get out from where he is and knows the key is to sell. He's scared to take a step that will change his life immeasurably for the better, in case he fails.

And with regards to your sis' perfect former life. Obviously it wasn't so perfect even then. Something went wrong somewhere, without knowing the circumstances or assigning blame.

Perhaps the resentment and bitterness stems from the fact that her ex- has moved on, where she hasn't? She may also resent you, for your 'perfect' life? Which makes her unwilling to listen to you and your attempts to help her.

I'm not sure what the answers are. I still try to help Best Mate but he just doesn't have the confidence in himself to change his life.

You can try to hang onto the memories of better days in the hopes that they will somehow return. But they never do. The world doesn't hold still and wait for you, it moves on. You have to realise that life is about evolution and growth, not stagnation and despair.

What she needs to do is to take her life in her own hands and start to live again, not live for the glorious memories of bygone days. She probably knows that herself but like BM she is too scared to cross the invisible border and start living again. Far of the unknown and fear of failure are powerfully negative motivators.

Thanks for the tea and biccies,
Si.
At 02:37 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Perky wrote:
Fiona (96) Thanks for bringing this to the beach - I can feel that you're going to get lots of empathetic advice and I hope some of it works.

I find that it's actually really hard to help people in this situation - especially if they are close family. My Mum had a breakdown about 10 years ago, and was on Prozac for a while, and, although she hated the idea of being on medication, it did help her to calm down and have some good moments. She came off it pretty quickly, but still has episodes of feeling worthless, untalented and generally a burden.

She's had a tough time and I really sympathise with her, but I sometimes find it a drag to listen to the same problems again and again and find that I run out of solutions, and every time I repeat something it sounds trite and bored. She's had some therapy, which did help, but she's of the generation where this is an admission of failure and, as a perfectionist, I don't think she'd really consider it, although I think it would help. I feel really guilty about moaning about it, because, after all, she's my Mum, but I'm also lucky enough to have bounced back from any knocks I've had and have a secure relationship to back me up.

I know that's all about me, rather than about you, but I wanted you to know that you're not alone, and that often the people closest to the depressed person aren't the ones who can be the most help.
At 02:56 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
Sara - Happy Birthday!!!! And if Eric so much as HINTS that you should be working, he'll have me 'n' my gang to deal with ;-)

I'd love a kir royale... can you save it 'til about 6 though - sadly I need to stay sober for a while longer. I find when people pay for you to do stuff for them, they don't appreciate it if you're noticeably drunk.

I realise, on re-reading, that looks a bit dodgy. But if RJD - I mean any frogger - chooses to interpret my completely innocent description of being self employed in a seedy light, that's their look-out :-O
At 03:09 PM on 17 Apr 2007, witchiwoman wrote:
Fiona - no need to apologise for bringing personal stuff here!

I know when I had problems I was very resentful and angry when someone pointed it out to me; I think its almost a fear reaction. You know theres something wrong but how to fix it? It can be quite scary and lashing out is, well was for me, a defensive technique. It may be hard but I would keep going. GM and AnnaR's book suggestion may be a way to go; or could the two of you get away together for a weekend? Maybe not bring the problem up but it would give you time to see how she is, time for her to relax, make her realise what else is going on out there?

Keep strong sweetness xx

Sara - HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! Thanks for sharing the fizz. I know several froggers will be keen to partake. Hope you have a fun evening to make up for the boring day at work :)
At 03:14 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Aperitif wrote:
Hi Fiona (96) I just want to say that I think two years is a very short time to grieve for the loss of a long relationship, and I'm sure that's what she's doing. I can offer you my opinion and suggestions, but, of course, those of others may differ:

Counselling probably will help -- so long as she knows it's about giving herself time and space to talk about her feelings rather about "fixing" her. I would expect her to be down for quite some time yet, but just knowing that you are there and still love her will help, even if neither of you can see that too easily right now. She is entitled to her pain, and to have the people who care about her acknowledge that pain and even to let her wallow in it for a while. That can be frightening because it seems like it will never end but it will. If she needs to cry let her cry and don't try to stop her or give her advice on feeling better; just let her know that you know it hurts and you are there for her. Don't offer solutions unless she asks for them: Nothing angers a depressed, grieving person more than being told how to recover, and anger breeds further depression. Offer her ideas and distractions and pleasant things to do without relating them to making her feel better, and let her take them up in her own time. She will start to recover when her life has changed sufficently -- that change can't be rushed.

Happy birthday Sara (97)
At 03:29 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Big Sister wrote:
Happy Birthday, Sara!

Fiona: I wouldn't go on holiday with her - you'll probably end up killing each other, or at least not talking. But - and I speak from some personal experience here - how about persuading her to go on some kind of activity holiday? depending, of course, upon what might hit her button. If she's into crafts, there are great opportunities out there, and encourage her to be ambitious. Or, if she's an active type, how about something like pony trekking? Depending upon funds, there are holidays abroad which combine horseriding/ponytrekking, or canoeiing, or sailing, or whatever.

What I'm saying is, go for something which will be sufficiently absorbing that, by the end of the day, her brain will have been totally focussed away from 'her' and into 'her activity'. She'll meet other people - in a purposeful, but not predatory way - and discover new things about herself.

There's lots more that could be said on this one, but I hope that's an acorn of an idea that might be useful. Oh, and if it's an activity holiday, I'm sure it'd be fine for you to go along too - just as long as it's something you'd enjoy.
At 03:31 PM on 17 Apr 2007, wrote:
I'm slightly ashamed for being a little flippant - It's what I do!

Much good advice above.
xx
ed

Happy Birthday, Sara!
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At 03:32 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Izzy T'Me wrote:
Fiona - firstly, poor you, I know the feeling, you always feel so inadequate and frustrated you can't sort it out for them don't you?

Secondly, and I repeat what Anna said, I am not an expert and rely solely on my experiences.

I have found that people in your sister's position rarely actually want advice and often don't take it even when you've gone out of your way to think about it carefully and creatively. The best thing to do (as you, as opposed to professional advice) is to listen and be there for her to sound off to. If you can, ask her what she feels she should do - turn it round (gently) so that any ideas/decisions are made by her. I agree that counselling will probably be better for her - if you can, get her to come up with the idea, she's more likely to accept it then.

All very much easier said than done - good luck. Make sure you partake of some of the goodies on the bar and have a jolly good rest before round two (or however many it is now).

Keep coming back for moral support, hugs and relaxing when you need it.

Izzy
At 03:36 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Izzy T'Me wrote:
Fiona - there you go, there's always someone else who puts it better! Appy's advice at 105 has just come through after my post. Well done Ap.

btw - sorry Sara missed you out on the last one - a very big HAPPY BIRTHDAY to you - fizz is my fave.
At 03:51 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Gillian wrote:
Fiona (96) Sorry to hear about the rough time you and your sister are going through.
The only advice I can give is - don't offer her advice, unless she suggests something and asks for your response.
Aperitif has said everything I would have said. Your sister is going through a bereavement and must be allowed to come to terms with it in her own way. She may never get over her loss, but she will find her own way of living with it. From her point of view, her life may not improve, but her coping-mechanisms will. There is no time-scale for this to happen...it can only come from her, when she is ready.
I send you both very best wishes.

Sara - Happy Birthday! I hope you have a lovely evening to make up for your rotten day.
At 03:53 PM on 17 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
Sara - Happy Birthday. I must say that you show an amazing appetite for life for someone who is (97).

Anna Rex (103) - Why assume that it would be me that would make a disparaging remark? I will have to go and think how offended I should be.
On a different topic, just how many kir royales does it take to enable you to imagine that Aperitif is a bloke. I have spent a lot of time in Ap’s company in the naughty corner and she is most definitely non-bloke (I was going to say all-woman but that would have been too forward!)

Ap (94) - What is a Betty's / What do I have to do to get pulled there? / Would I enjoy it?
At 03:58 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Vyle Hernia wrote:
Izzy T'Me (93)

Thanks for the kind invitation, but I'm better at reviewing others' documents than producing my own. By all means get me to review it if you wish.
At 03:59 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Gossipmistress wrote:
Sara! Happy Birthday! Have a lovely evening, sorry I missed your post before!
At 04:23 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Izzy T'Me wrote:
Fiona - re me (106), I'm obviously having the same problems with the modders as Appy was elsewhere - there was a previous post, and it echoed Appy's at 105, just not so well put.

Ho hum - seems to be a few problems around recently.
At 04:51 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Aperitif wrote:
RJD (111) You remind me of the Lisa Stansfield song "I may not be a Lady, but I'm all woman"... Never liked it actually, but the memory amuses me nevertheless. Good to see you reinflated on this beach anyway ;-)

Betty's, ah, Betty's. Middle-class Old Lady Heaven (You may well ask what on Earth I and my chum were doing there...) The most unlikely place to come across fit, single, straight blokes... and actually we didn't, but I'm sure they would've liked us to.. (I know, tsk, tsk, naughty corner...)

Here's the link anyway:
At 04:51 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Izzy T'Me wrote:
Thanks Vyle - didn't really think I'd get any takers. So bored, I've spent more time here than I should which only means It's going to drag on and on. I think I need to take myself in hand (RJD - stop it!) and get to grips with it tomorrow. Still, serves me right for giving up a perfectly good job (ish) and going to uni at my time of life.
At 05:01 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Fiona wrote:
Thank you all so very very much for taking the time to write some really useful and thoughtful replies. I realise now that I have probably been trying to make too many "helpful" suggestions and perhaps I should just let her find her own way. She has gone down the counselling route but found it didn't really help her that much. I personally think something like Cognitive Behaviour Therapy would be more useful. I should point out as well that in fairness to her she did take one gigantic leap forward last summer when she went on holiday for the first time on her own. She is passionate about nature, wildlife and the environment and she went to Sri Lanka on an Explorer trip which she loved. Sadly though she seems incapable of retaining that sense of freedom and pride in herself for doing something so brave and soon reverts back to seeing herself as useless, unworthy etc instead of buildiing on what progress she makes. I guess the bottom line is there is nothing else I can do - and maybe that proves me to be a bit of the control freak that SO often accuses me of being (which I strenously deny!). I have always been determined to try and fix her! That comes from my many years of singledom when self-preservation was my essential so I learned early on how to make myself feel better whether it was wallowing in a good book, or a self indulgent shopping trip. As she met him when she was only 18 years old she needs to learn to function as an individual instead of the one half of a couple she has always been. It doesn't help that we dont (for a whole other bunch of reasons) have a close relationship with our mother so she is all the more dependant on me.

Anyway bless you all for being so kind - I actually feel quite tearful that a bunch of people who have never met me could be so kind - if only the world could be more like this blog!

And Ed - no need to worry, your reply made me chuckle :)

Oh, before I head off - Happy Birthday Sara, have popped another bottle of bubbly behind the bar for everyone (not literally popped - I meant put!)......you can never have too much champagne as far as I am concerned. Cheers x
At 05:11 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Sara wrote:
Thanks for the good wishes, froggers. It's been a very tedious day, but I'm now listening to PM in the office on my beautiful new digital radio WITH headphones which was a birthday present because my stupid office computer has no soundcard!

Am already virtually drunk, but will leave the real McCoy until after I have driven home! Out tonight with baby daughter (aged 27) and son in law and SO for nice meal and (hopefully but unlikely) more pressies. Will try to pay more attention to the frog tomorrow. Sorry I haven't given any thought to Fiona's sister's problem, but I see you've all been thinking about things so I'll catch up later.

Lol. xxx
At 05:18 PM on 17 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
Could I just let everybody know that my full frogname is NOT "RJD - stop it!"
At 05:21 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Anne P. wrote:
Have a lovely evening, Sara
At 06:17 PM on 17 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
Ap (115) - Now that's impressive and inventive - straining the meter at 94%. That's also a season's best if I'm not mistaken!
At 06:28 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
RJD (111) "Why assume that it would be me that would make a disparaging remark?"
Um.. experience? And please don't be too sad - I love you for all the experiences you give me
;-0
Would a massage help you get over the hurt? Where would you like it? By which I mean... oh, never mind... Name your place.

I haven't spent enough time on the beach to get as intimately acquainted as you clearly are with all the inmates, so I'm a still bit gender-confused. I am, for the avoidance of doubt, ALL WOMAN. But I think a name like Anna gives you a clue.

Aperitif gives a very accurate description of Bettys at 115. I feel I should make it clear, though, that I am not a "middle class old lady". At least one of the adjectives/noun doesn't apply! Leave it up to you....
She's right, though - pair of incredibly cute blokes at the next table, then, yep, you guessed it. I envied both of them for having the other!

Wow, that is good kir royale. Aren't other people's birthdays just the biz! RJD, did you have a Fat Rascal? How was it?

I'm sorry - I'm feeling very naughty tonight. It's a cover. Best to keep it up.
At 07:04 PM on 17 Apr 2007, wrote:
Anna (121) keep what up?!?
At 07:26 PM on 17 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
Anna Rex - Right, you're on. But you will have to be gentle with me - I've never had a proper massage in my life. Will I be alright on this lounger?
At 07:27 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Izzy T'Me wrote:
RJD - oh yes it is......
At 07:33 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Anne P. wrote:
Anna, if you need a cover try this lovely soft, stripey beach towel, and some big safety pins to help keep it up.
At 07:36 PM on 17 Apr 2007, wrote:
Evening all....

This is just a pre-emptive comment, you understand, but I've had an idea... When the Beach first came into existence, it was a refuge from the cold grey days of October. To be able to play on the wonderful sand of Eddie's beach helped to keep the froggers tigether and it built a community. Now, however, we're soon approaching Beach weather outside the Frog. What I propose is that when the weather outside warms up to Kate O'Mara, we froggers will be looking for a place to cool down and relax. When that happens, can I suggest that we relocate the Beach (including those camels that wish to join us, of course) so that we take over a ski resort? That'll give us a cool place to play during the summer months, complete with gluwein, fondue parties, and warming malt whisky :-)

What do froggers think?
At 07:41 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Val P wrote:
Oops, I've just stumbled thru September to get here - no time to read the above yet. Will just read what's written in the dunes, then get back to y'all.
Busy, busy.
At 08:14 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
Well, dressed in Anne P's stripey towel, I feel like Joseph in his dreamcoat.. any dream will do...

RJD: you're quite safe here; tell me if anything I do is hurting you - I am quite strong but gentle. The lounger is perfect. As it's your first time, I'll stick to head, neck & shoulders. Don't be surprised if you cry - it's known in the trade as " a release" which I think sounds v v dodgy but there you go. It happens. And nothing you say/do in here will get out.

Drink plenty of water afterwards. Now, just close your eyes when you feel ready, and relax.
At 08:17 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Aperitif wrote:
Wow! I've just been Septembered! I was beginning to feel left out. Fun isn't it? I was tempted to comment on Cherie Blair walking away from the show, but I restrained myself.

Anyhoo, I'm all caught up now. So --

Fiona (117) You clearly care an awful lot about your sister and that will be of huge comfort to her, honest. Even if it for now it mainly means she knows she has someone with whom she can vent her frustrations! CBT is really good for some people, especially where counselling isn't too helpful, becasue, as I'm sure you know, it explores constructive solutions to problems rather than just the reasons for them. If you think she'll benefit I hope she gives that a go. Good luck, and do give yourself a hug for being a lovely caring sister.

Sara (118) Have a lovely evening.

RJD (119) Maybe not, but it ought to be! And (121) Why, thank you kind Sir!

Fearless (126) Interesting suggestion. I must say, you are showing remarkable confidence in the UK summer weather. We could have beach with a shady area with a nice cool pool. Tell the truth I'm easy -- I'll give your ski resort a go if you like :-)
At 08:26 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
Gnrrr jut had my post deleted. Sorry, this is the abridged version:

Dressed in Anne P's stripey towel, I feel like Joseph... Any dream will do...

RJD: the lounger is perfect. Since it's your first time, I'm going to stick to head, neck & shoulders. Don't be surpirsed if you cry (real men do) - it's known in the trade as a "release" - sounds dodgy to me, but it's OK, really. And drink plenty of water afterwards. Now, just close your eyes, and relax.....

FFred, hmmm... great idea.. but.... some of us are no longer able to prance about on the mountains, ski, enjoy the piste, the freedom... would hate to prevent anyone else from having such fun on the piste, but it may mean we (I) end up spending a lot more time piste. Could you cope?

Now, RJD, how's that feeling? Just sleep now. xx
At 09:30 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Anne P. wrote:
Fearless (127) - you are of course assuming that we are going to have another really hot summer!

But as long as we do, I'd go along with the idea. However I've never skiied and haven't skated since Noah left the Ark, so I'd have to rely on other froggers to teach me. Or perhaps I'll just slide down the slopes on a large plastic bag - industrial fertilizer bags are good, though you do get bruises in unmentionable places.
At 10:05 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Aperitif wrote:
PUSH! O me O my it's frustrating tonight!
At 10:09 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Aperitif wrote:
:-(
At 10:10 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Val P wrote:
Fiona - perhaps just as well I didn't get to the Beach sooner, I might still be writing now - not as eruditely as many already have. Plenty of experience, possibly even more pills than Ed, lots of understanding, but no definitive cure. However, I'm happy to endorse all the many and good suggestions made by others. Tried and tested. CBT's good. The biggest help is having wonderful, supportive and patient friends. You find them in the most surprising places, like the PM Blog!

? Sara - Happy, happy Birthday, Cheers!! ?
At 10:41 PM on 17 Apr 2007, Val P wrote:
Oh I don't know Fearless, i've never been ski-ing, nor even fancied it. RJDstopit.
Beaches are still good in the summer.

Who's been watching Horizon? Fascinating stuff.

Oh btw, we've been adopted by a cat this evening. Any suggestions? It appeared at a window at teatime and shouted and shouted until TD went out and gave it some food and water. Now it keeps trying to get in the front door (no surprise there then). Samdog is black-affronted and goes bananas everytime he sees the poor thing. Obviously domesticated, after its tea it calmly went and dug a hole in the (as yet) unplanted window box, then proceeded to present us with the largest catc*** you've ever seen! It's a tabby, not that that's relevant but, you know, I'm not a cat person, was glad to even be able to identify it :o/
At 11:26 PM on 17 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
Mmmmmmmm. Gosh Anna R - that's good.
At 11:34 PM on 17 Apr 2007, wrote:
Marc has been on the refuge site. He's managed to get us backed to April - though actually september was sooo warm - well it was on that 'On-Air Day' we got directed to.

sara - If you've been on the glass box today (I made a comment about Digital Radio's - At least your new DAB will be okay for a few years, and are you bothered if someone creative decides to stick a guest on the left! and it all sounds a bit warbly :-( Oh well - I bet it looks nice and shiny.

Back to Marc, as I said on the Glass box (if the comment get's through) he's got us back to April, - and he's no longer new! We need a new name for him? He's very good with sorting out time warps so perhaps Dr something should feature?

Come on Froggers as Fifi would say ?
At 08:26 AM on 18 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
Anna Rex - That was wonderful and I'm so sorry for just drifting off to sleep.

Val P - You must be very busy at the moment, just popping in and off again. Sorry to have missed you.

Ap - The smutometer overheated yesterday (orange warning light), so go easy today, OK?
At 08:29 AM on 18 Apr 2007, wrote:
FFred;
re: the Ski Slope (or whatever we might call it). What a sterling idea! I'm all for it.

Anne P. & Val P.;
I've never ski-ed in my life but I like the idea of hanging around the slopes looking cool and then enjoying the apres-ski.

Si.
At 09:46 AM on 18 Apr 2007, Fiona wrote:
So FFred, what you are suggesting in essence is moving the blog down to the southern hemisphere? That way we can have long hot sunny days on the beach from October to April and sky from May to September.....I like it!

I'm a rubbish skier though - if I go more than 5 mph or the run is more than just a very very gentle slope I get a bit scared, however the apres-ski I am fairly proficient at.
At 09:47 AM on 18 Apr 2007, Aperitif wrote:
Morning all. Big pot of English Breakfast here for anyone interested. Wholemeal toast, marmalade and fresh orange juice.
At 10:00 AM on 18 Apr 2007, Delores Behan-Ingland (Mrs) wrote:
Googie Withers...

This British actress appeared on stage and TV, and made more than 60 films between 1934 and 1996. During the 30s she was much in demand for lead roles in minor films and supporting roles in bigger ones. In 1992 she appeared in a TV programme called, rather disparagingly, Britain's Missing Movie Heritage.

I think I saw a TV series in which she was the governor of a women’s prison, and a few of the films, but none were particularly memorable; I remembered her face, but I doubt if her name would have stuck in my mind had it not such an odd one. For many years I deliberately refrained from finding out what the first part was short for, preferring to wonder about it at idle moments.

On the analogy of Connie, I would muse, it might have been Googstance, or, as with Winnie, Googifred. And then, with wilder fancy: Penny, Googelope? Sammy, Googantha? Jenny, Googifer? Lizzie, Egoogabeth? I think some peoples names are hilarious.

But when I read in the paper that she was 90 years old last month I felt it was time to end the speculation, so I looked her up.

Many (belated) Happy Returns, Georgette!
At 10:01 AM on 18 Apr 2007, Aperitif wrote:
OK, no one needs to know this but I'm going to tell you anyway: I had a vivid dream about Russell Brand this morning. It was a bit naughty, which was nice enough, but then he went to burgle my Grandmother's house!!! This is not on!!

What is it with me and celebrity burglars? -- One of my most vivid nightmares of the past involved me hiding in a tray of newly seeded plants in a cupboard while Steve Davis and his accomplices made off with the VCR...
At 10:48 AM on 18 Apr 2007, Humph wrote:
Wow, Izzy (93), that is interesting . . . [waits for the stampede of the other froggers to die down as they all decide that it is their turn to feed the camels who are looking particularly hungry at the moment] . . . that is interesting. What form of re-mediation are you looking at?

In a former life (the job before the job before the job that I have now) I did some work with someone who came from the principality west of Hereford. She was looking at possible bio-remediation using a certain species of earth worm. She would leave them in a bucket of earth with high lead levels for a month and then carefully get them out of the earth to avoid causing them any harm. She would then wash the earth away (some worms probably drowned at this point) before cutting them up into 1cm lengths and dissolving each segment in a different beaker of boiling nitric acid. She would then measure the lead content of each segment by Flame Atomic Absorption Spectrometry (FAAS) to work out whether the lead was “just passing through” (same concentration throughout the length of the worm) or being trapped in the flesh (higher concentrations at the front of the worm). If the latter, then there were possibilities of using this technique to move the lead below the root level of certain plants where it would be deposited when the worm died. Just don’t tell the local blackbirds!

It was a shame that her name was Nicola rather than Dorothy. Otherwise I would have been able to call her Welsh Worm Woman Dorothy (or WWW Dot, for short). Mind you, as Nic was vertically challenged in the height department, any reference to shortness within her earshot would probably have resulted in a head-butt to the knee.

H.
At 10:54 AM on 18 Apr 2007, mittfh wrote:
Oh dear...

I've just been on the Refuge...

...and I'm going to be humming "#Always listen between 5 and 6 (pm pm pm pm)" for the rest of the day...

Of course, to make the final mix perfect, you could request contributions by Eric and Sequin...
At 11:27 AM on 18 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
Delores Behan-Ingland (Mrs) (143)

Sorry about this, but you have reminded me of someone once telling me how simple it is to become a famous actress. Apparently this can be achieved by standing in front of an open fire until your Googie Withers.
At 11:32 AM on 18 Apr 2007, Izzy T'Me wrote:
Humph (145) - how sweet of you to be interested. However, you obviously know far more than me about the actual remediation side - I'm (supposed to be) writing about the risk assessment bit so that Council's can prioritise which contaminated land to remediate first. Thereafter it's up to them to find someone far cleverer than me to do the clean up.

I really wish she had been called Dorothy too *sighs whistfully*.

Appy (144) - Having laughed so much I nearly fell off my chair (I love the thought of Steve Davies being more interesting than we've been led to believe!), I feel I have to ask......are you quite alright? ;o)
At 12:05 PM on 18 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
:-(
old friend just died. Have to go to the office this afternoon (I know, but really, have to.)
Expect to be wallowing back onto the beach around tea time. It would be very nice if there was a really big group hug building up waiting for me. I know that's selfish.
AR x
ps mid forties, cancer. shudder.

pps I just got a 569 so am reposting; sorry if it comes out twice.
At 12:19 PM on 18 Apr 2007, Perky wrote:
Anna (149) Same thing happened to me not a year ago. Sending big hugs, virtual tissues and much love ((((( )))))
At 12:22 PM on 18 Apr 2007, wrote:
569? That's a new one for our collection!
Big hug for Anna:
(((?????)))
ed
At 12:25 PM on 18 Apr 2007, wrote:
Thinking of you Anna - I'm mid forties - shudder :-(

Big hugs !
At 12:33 PM on 18 Apr 2007, Belinda wrote:
Big Big Big BIG BIG BIG BIG frog hug for Anna. I'm late 40s so I'm not going to dwell.
At 12:37 PM on 18 Apr 2007, Fiona wrote:
(((((Anna))))) Lots and lots of big hugs from me too honey x x x Come back and wallow when you are ready
Fiona (in early Forties!) x

PS. BTW Anna - would just like to say you kind of helped me unintentionally! My work contract is due to end 31st May, SO is also self employed. Have been saving like mad so we can move to France, have a sabbatical, enjoy life more. But this morning when I was more or less told that they wouldn't be able to renew my contract I started to panic and fire off my cv to other roles. Now I just thought STOP! What are you doing woman!! We can afford to take some time out so we bloody well will - time with my children at last. Thanks for reminding me that life is for living.... I can get another job next year..... x

PPS. Appy - loved your post! I can imagine you are the life and soul of parties with some hilarious stories to tell
At 12:55 PM on 18 Apr 2007, Aperitif wrote:
Big hug Anna (149).

Izzy (148), Somehow I feel I am, but the evidence suggests otherwise, no?
At 12:59 PM on 18 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
Anna R - ((((hugs))))
At 01:04 PM on 18 Apr 2007, witchiwoman wrote:
Anna - big big hugs (((()))) and hope the office wasn't too hideous; sure all Froggers were sending supportive vibes your way xx
At 02:08 PM on 18 Apr 2007, Anne P. wrote:
Anna (149),

(((((((BIG HUG)))))))
At 02:52 PM on 18 Apr 2007, witchiwoman wrote:
Where is evreyone - suddenly v quiet at work. Think I'm going to climb in to this hammock and read another chunk of Suite Francaise, maybe indulge in a vanilla milkshake (with real vanilla of course).

On a slight musing tangent would a saffron shake work do you think? Its one of my other favourite flavours....did I mention it was quiet here today? :)
At 03:26 PM on 18 Apr 2007, Humph wrote:
Sorry to hear your news, AnnaR. (((((hugs)))))

H.
At 04:24 PM on 18 Apr 2007, Gillian wrote:
((((((Anna))))))) So sorry to hear your news. I have lost too many friends that way, and I'm only in my early fifties. :o(
At 04:47 PM on 18 Apr 2007, Izzy T'Me wrote:
Anna, the same thing happened to a friend of mine, he was 44 and was gone within 3 months of being taken in to hospital for tests. Very sad - I know what you are feeling. My only silver lining was to make a very lovely friend from one of his other visitors and we still keep in touch. Big hugs to you from me too. ((()))
At 05:21 PM on 18 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
You lot are so fab. I've just got back and read through this afternoon's postings. Thank you so much, I'm genuinely comforted. More tissues please someone...
I refer you all to Fiona (154) - oddly, I have been trying to spend the bit of time I've had today to think about this, telling myself that this could happen to anyone, any time, and while the day-to-day, work, etc are all important, I must remember to try and make the most of my life. Stupid pop-pysch splurge finished.

I really don't think I can face food tonight.
WW, saffron milkshake?? I adore saffron and am intrigued tho uncertain about the combo, but it might be sustaining, and I can see me hitting the bar pretty soon. Could you make me just a tiny one, with skimmed milk?

Thank you all. I fear there may be more tearful postings as the evening wears on; feel free to ignore me when it gets tedious.

Anna xxxx
At 06:15 PM on 18 Apr 2007, Anne P. wrote:
Bloggage? It seems to have gone very quiet around here.
At 06:51 PM on 18 Apr 2007, Molly wrote:
Anna R-

Chin up!
((((hugs)))) from me too.

Mollyxx
At 07:07 PM on 18 Apr 2007, wrote:
AnnaR, yes sending hugs & sympathy to you too. I'm also mid-forties. So sorry to hear your sad news. Unfortunately as we get older, it just keeps happening more frequently. My parents are in their 70s & rarely a month goes past that they don't have to go to a funeral.

Whenever I go into the Philharmonic Hall in Liverpool, there's always a sad moment when I see the plaque backstage to a lovely violinist who used to be in the orchestra. She was born in the same year I was, & diagnosed with cancer the year I was pregnant with my daughter. I remember how upbeat & positive she was at the time, then I didn't go back to the Phil for a couple of years. By the time I did, she was dead. When you're in your 20's I think death in your 40s & 50s seems like "they've had a good life" kind of thing. But as you get to that age yourself, & realise how much young children still need their parents, and how we feel as though we've barely begun to live the sort of life we wanted, it becomes heartbreaking to hear of people dying so young. Sorry, I'm rambling.
At 08:05 PM on 18 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
4 1/2 hours since the last post appeared, I can only guess how many people have PUSHED. I was gonna wait till the bloggage resolved. But I just can't. I need someone to clamber into this hammock with me, wrap their frogg-loving arms around me, and hold me while I sob. Sorry, but there it is.

I know there are plenty of other people going through heaps worse, but my philosophy has always been that "what someone else is going through doesn't diminish what you're going through". I've told that to a lot of people over the years, when they've seeemed embarassed comparing their problems to mine (which at times, thanks to a fairly serious medical state, have been significant). So, I know there are plenty of froggers going through relative hell, and you have my love. And/but I am feeling a bit cr*p at the moment, and if someone could just give me a squeeze I'd be very appreciative.

Anna x
At 09:36 PM on 18 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
Move over Anna and make room for me.
At 09:57 PM on 18 Apr 2007, Gillian wrote:
Anna Rex (165) As my Dad used to say.....The fact that you've got a broken leg doesn't make my headache any better.
Consider yourself squeezed, and be kind to yourself.
At 11:03 PM on 18 Apr 2007, Molly wrote:
Anna R
What you need is a nice bowl of delicious soup- how about carrot andd corriander .I'll make it for you- it's absolutely delicious!
Perhaps RJD could just move over a bit and give you a bit of room for the tray.....

Mollyxx
At 12:19 AM on 19 Apr 2007, Gossipmistress wrote:
Anna - really sorry about your friend, I know nothing I can say will make it any better but we're all thinking of you and sending *hugs*x
At 12:54 AM on 19 Apr 2007, wrote:
Anna,

If that charming Irishman expects too much appreciation, there's always the treehouse.

《?????》
ed
At 06:40 AM on 19 Apr 2007, LadyPen wrote:
(((((((((((((AnnaR)))))))))))))

xx
LadyP
At 08:21 AM on 19 Apr 2007, Big Sister wrote:
And a big squeeze from me, Anna.

I would have sent one yesterday, but had my own reasons for feeling ghastly then, so didn't want to add my ghastliness to your grief.

Hope you were able to sleep. Take it a day at a time.
At 08:40 AM on 19 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
Annasee (166) - I didn't see your post last night. That's not rambling - that's sensible, sensitive and supportive.
At 09:15 AM on 19 Apr 2007, witchiwoman wrote:
AnnaR -
Sorry I wan't here to climb in the hammock with you but I'm sure RJD did a sterling job! Didn't get to experiment with the saffron last night as was making hazlenut and raisin biccies - the result of said experiment are on the bar. You may not feel like eating but I've reserved a couple for you and not sure what you'll feel like drinking with them but give me a shout and I'll rustle something up!

AnnaS -
Not rambling at all. I'm going to be 30 this year and its struck much more I want to do and see (though have had a pretty packed/eventful life so far). 50 seems so young, in fact so does 70!! But its what you do with the time isn't it; no good having a life where all you do is count the days. So, on that note I'm off to swim with that pod of dolphins that are chortling just by the Frogger Reef.

Big big hugs to everyone; its such a joy to be in this kind of company!

WWxx
At 09:40 AM on 19 Apr 2007, Perky wrote:
Anna - just wanted to check how you were this morning. It's going to be a rough time, but you will come out the other end, and I'm sure everyone will agree that we're all here whenever you need us - and probably when you don't!

Big mugs of hot chocolate on the bar for comfort drinking.

xx
At 09:42 AM on 19 Apr 2007, Gillian wrote:
Anna Rex and Big Sis - I hope you both have a better day today, and can take time out for yourselves.
Help yourselves to maple and pecan pastries, with Red Bush tea.
At 09:48 AM on 19 Apr 2007, Molly wrote:
Having just caught up on the other threads, copied GM and tried( unsuccessfully) to google Birdman.
Thought I'd google myself (sad or what!) and wish to say that I am not a lost dog neither am I ,as far as I know ,"Stockings and Heels" with Gus- although that could be fun...

How wierd - I feel 'approprriated'- very strange business!
Right, just off to google you lot! only kidding...

Anna R-
Hope you slept well and have a better day.

Mollyxx
At 10:18 AM on 19 Apr 2007, Fiona wrote:
Good morning all.....hope everyone is well this fine sunny morning. Hope you managed to get some sleep Anna R - and thank you for kind comment re my post, I thought at the time I was rambling in a bit of a self indulgent way but I am glad you could see what I was trying to say. Its hard to get the right balance - one has to be sensible to a certain degree, especially with children - but its making sure your life is not always about working working working and saving for that rainy day you might never see.

Anyway as I seem to be one of the first here this morning I have put the kettle for those who want tea, and there is a pot of coffee brewing as well. I have made some toast and there is a choice of orange marmalade or strawberry jam.

By the way (beware......am about to ramble again!!), dont you think it's marvellous the power that music can have? As you know I am a bit of a rock chick at heart and on the way in as I was in my usual pre-occupied, stressed state of mind I heard a track by Green Day called Boulevard of Broken Dreams. Well I turned it up as loud as I could, and sang my little heart out all the way through - and that, combined with the sun of course, made me feel a million times better. For 3 minutes I was off in a different world where everything else was forgotten and it felt great, it literally lifted me into the day!!

Right back later .....
At 10:44 AM on 19 Apr 2007, Anne P. wrote:
"I'll not take my coat off, I'm not stopping" - off to visit aged parent for a few days, catch you all on Sunday I hope.

Hugs all round, and some special organic dark chocolate bars in the fridge ( I prefer mine room temperature, but I don't want to tempt the camels). Take care.
At 10:44 AM on 19 Apr 2007, Perky wrote:
Fiona (180) Any Green Day track turned up loud makes you feel better (and I mean loud). I'm also having a lot of fun listening to The Fratellis at the moment, which is fab stuff.

I've nabbed some toast, I'm afraid, and taken it back to nibble on whilst I work. Thanks!
At 10:53 AM on 19 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
Morning everyone
Remarkably did manage to sleep - probably thanks to all those hugs & snuggles. RJD was a gentleman. No, really.

Sorry there are a couple of part-nibbled hazelnut & raisin biccies and maple & pecan danish lying around - they're delish, really they are, but the ol' appetite has gone for a long walk. Maybe the camels would eat my leftovers?

You're all very sage; many have pointed out that this happens with horrible regularity. I think the fact that I've lost quite a few very close friends of ages that make me purple with anger (in their 20s, 30s, 40s) means that I know I'll feel better in time, but I also know how horrid it's going to feel for a while.

That said, WW, I'm coming after you, breast-stroking as fast as I can manage (there you go RJD, that's one for you....) - swimming with dolphins sounds delightful. Then perhaps we could try that milkshake?

Oh, and there's a bit of carrot & coriander soup stain on one of the hammocks.... and on RJD for that matter... I promise to clean it (the hammock) up later.

Thank you all
xxxx
At 10:57 AM on 19 Apr 2007, Aperitif wrote:
I know just what you mean Fiona. Loud singing along in the car is most fortifying. Other things too -- a Tom Waits track has been keeping me going a bit lately. And I'm loving The Killers' "When You Were Young" for a good old shouty chorus.
At 11:03 AM on 19 Apr 2007, Fiona wrote:
I wasn't the first here this morning after all! Why did I think that I was? I don't know!

Perky (181) totally agree - Green Day are my "kick start" band. If I am working on something really tedious, I put my ipod on and listen to American Idiot and it really fires me up to work! And the Fratellis - good call, very good new band, lots of fun.
At 11:10 AM on 19 Apr 2007, Sara wrote:
Morning all; so sorry I wasn't around yesterday to give Anna R lots & lots of big hugs. I hope you're OK this morning, Anna - we've got sunshine here, which always makes me feel hopeful.

There is of course no "good" age to die. Someone once said 80 was a good age to die, unless you happen to be 79, when suddenly it doesn't seem so good. When you are younger there are of course more people to miss you.

There's nothing fair or unfair about life. It's just the strangest mystery. I mean, why is one alive at all ? ......

Stop it, Sara, you're depressing yourself! Here's some thick warm buttered toast, and big hugs to Anna and everyone ....

What shall we talk about?
At 01:09 PM on 19 Apr 2007, witchiwoman wrote:
Ah music - its a pure joy! Am v much enjoying Bellowhead's London Town; I've never heard such a funky sousaphone! (You have to experience it really!)

AnnaR - you ok?

BigSis - sorry, meant to post to you earlier as well; are you ok too?? Whatever it was I hope today is better x
At 01:21 PM on 19 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
This blog is as blogged as my nose.

Right, I have to go out and do what feels like incredibly challenging stuff: visit optician; buy milk; you get the idea.

Funnily enough, loud music is exactly what I feel like- except I fear it'll reduce me back to sobs. You never know, I may even record a bit of backing track for the frog song, It would seem appropriate, no?

OK. Enough for now. Who has something uplifting they want to talk about? Fiona - tell us about this sabbatical idea - will you still go to France - you'd better still have broadband!!
But then you could leave us all kinds of fabulous cheeses to sample, oh and think of the wine......!

Anna
xx
At 02:23 PM on 19 Apr 2007, wrote:
Afternoon all! Just taking a few moments to escape beachwards between meetings. Anna R, I hope you'll accept this belated (((*hug*))).

Music to gee you up in the morning? I'd like to suggest a few tracks:
- 成人快手 by Leona Naess; This was recorded in one take for the album, and it has a great uplifting effect:-)
- Rock And Roll by Led Zeppelin; Need I explain???
- I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For by U2; Another timeless classic that gets me singing in the car
- Overture To The Magic Flute, Mozart; I just love this piece
- Teenage Kicks, The Undertones; Ah it takes me back:-)
- A Good Heart, the Maria McKee version; Actually written by Maria, and finally recorded and released on both her last live album and the one comiung out next week:-)

At 03:33 PM on 19 Apr 2007, admin annie wrote:
I don't know, I go off for a few days ( am still in Maryland btw but catching up on the beach while my sister is out. She goes once a month to 'entertain' patients at a local mental hospital, not by herself of course, but I really admire her as I couldn't do it SO i'M TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO CATCH UP ON THE FROG anD ALL THESE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED. Oops how did I hit caps lock?

Anyway belated happy birthday to Sara. Hugs squared for Anna. Husband lost a former work colleague to cancer a couple of weeks ago - he was 37. They found secondaries but by the time they located the primary tumour nothing could be done. Really upsetting, especialy as husband has had to take over some of the work he was doing.

Fiona, from personal experience both sides of the fence no-one can understand what it's like to be clinically depressed if they haven't suffered from it themselves. And sadly the one thing you know above all others when you've been there, is that no-one can help. However well meaning, empathetic, desperate to help that they are, they can't. Don't want to take up too much space and say more. But your sister will come through it eventually and believe me she will say to people down the line " I don't know how Fiona managed to put up with me, it must have been awful for her.'

If you can be there for her when she's better and feeling awful about what she put you through, that's what she needs, for you to be there afterwards and not have been driven away.

The only thing you can do that will be really useful is, if she hasn't been to the doctor and got properly diagnosed and given tablets and/or some sort of therpay, persuade her to go.

Glad to see you're all frolic-ing happily. Might post somethign about Virginia shootings later on from an over the pond perspective, Off now to rootle round the NCMB, did someone mention Betty's? if there's anything from there...in return samples from The Cheesecake Factory over here, a small piece of each of the 34 different versions ( yes that did say 34 ) that they do.
At 04:24 PM on 19 Apr 2007, wrote:
AA (190),

That's Eddie country, Mairland, as they pronounce it, eh? I wuz born there just shortly after the beginning of time.
xx
ed
At 04:58 PM on 19 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
At the risk of being tedious... *where* can I find the latest version of the song? I think I may have found a way to record direct to my pc, and am in the mood for music.

FFred - hug most gratefully received, thank you sweetie. Great selection of songs too :-)

Sposed to be going to 1st orchestra rehearsal of the new term tonight. Not sure. Ought to go, can always leave at half time.

Admin Annie, there's the last of the Bettys ginger slab cake, and also some simnel cake, in the tin on the bar. Keep the lid on it - those camels have expensive tastes....
At 05:15 PM on 19 Apr 2007, Fiona wrote:
Hello Admin Annie - thanks for your thoughts re my sister, it has been really helpful getting other people's perspective on it. Hope you are managing to have some fun over the pond - look forward to getting some US perspective on the Virginia horrors.

Anna R - nice to see you back here. My sabbatical? Well its been something we have talked about for a while. If you read my waffle on the Wednesday Glass Box thread you will kind of understand part of what is driving us to move. In a nutshell cost of living, quality of life, the fact that if we want to move to a bigger house then we will have to take another chunky mortgage (the one blessing about being slightly older is that our mortgage is very little :)), and that would mean me carrying on working full time. So last year I got the chance to take vol redundancy - which I accepted gladly as the trek into West London every day was becoming a chore and it just didn't fit in with my children. So we decided I would do contract work, which I have been doing since then, that way we could save more and hopefully have a nest egg which would tide us over frugally for about a year. Then we could have that year getting settled, finding our feet and hopefully seeing if we could make a life there. And hopefully that life would involve working less and we being able to be more of a mum than I feel I am now. If we dont then we return but at least we have tried and had a nice year off as well. Then we rethink our strategy........ (haven't got a plan B yet!) Of cours its a little scary, but that's life for you

So there you have it. And of course Broadband would be essential - I couldn't leave all you lovely froggers.

Right must dash - am bidding on e**y and its nearly the end....
At 06:31 PM on 19 Apr 2007, wrote:
* drowsy head pops out from hammock *

Hello, have I missed much?

Anna, my heart goes out to you. Really crappy news, and I'm so sorry. I don't think it ever gets any easier, and there would be something far wrong if it did.

A bit late perhaps, but here's mine (((((((hug))))))) and a humungous glass of shiraz from my precious hoard just for you. Later there will be chicked soup and, just maybe, some very sinful hot chips with salt vinegar ketchup HP mayo ... whatever you like.

Fearless, I have never seen the appeal of a ski resort. But if there's a warm fire and lots of booze count me in! I'm partial to fondue any time of year. Honestly, it's the cheese...

Gosh, what a hectic week it's been here so far. Tomorrow will be the catching-up day, after 4 days doing out-of-the-ordinary things mostly not at home.

I promise I'll get the proper song-files to Jonnie soon, for the current re-mix. How's all that going by the way?

* flops back into hammock *

* gentle snore........ *

Fifi
At 06:47 PM on 19 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
Fiona - how exciting!
Having given up a pretty decently paid, stable "known" and stepped into the self employed "completely unknown" last year, for reasons too long to go in to here, I have to say I've been staggered at how much fun I'm having. Of course, the harder you work the luckier you get, and I don't advocate ill-thought-through rash moves, but while "the idea of it" was terrifying, the reality has shown me there are lots of different ways to live a fruitful life.
Oh, and I'm a lot worse off financially, at least for now. And I don't care, at least for now ;-)

Hope you'll bring your new purchase to the beach - perhaps we should organise a "show and tell" one evening. RJDstopit.

Decided I'm going to orchestra. Wagner and cherry blossom make me cry spontaneously, but I'm pretty sure there'll be neither at the rehearsal.
I have to be up at 04:30 tomorrow (whoaa!) to do some vol work, so could someone keep a hammock free for me to flop straight into when I get back? You're too kind.

xx
At 08:11 PM on 19 Apr 2007, Aperitif wrote:
Anyone for a game of rounders? A good run about on the sand should get the blood pumping and cheer us all up. Bags I third post (I'm not much of a batter but, be warned, I'm great at catching out!) :-)
At 10:03 PM on 19 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
Ap - I've always thought of you as batty!
At 10:16 PM on 19 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
Fifi - excellent shiraz. Hug much appreciated too. You're an angel.

But, "Chicked Soup"? Is it tartan soup in a south african accent? (OK, that's weak and obtuse but the best I can manage). As long as it's good for the soul, who cares.

I won the orchestra half-time raffle, for the first time ever. It's a bottle of wine. Just after I'd told conductor that it was a close run thing between coming to orch or sinking a bottle of wine. I think friend was pulling strings for me from her place with the angels. OK, that's way too new-age, but there was something nice about the coincidence. Anyhoo, it's on the bar; probably not anything like as good as Fifi's shiraz, but still. Help yourselves.

Oh, and where is everyone?
Oh oh, and I know I have to be up in 6 hours.
Oh oh oh, and I promise not to go on about this, and will grieve in private and get over it and all that, but I haven't really cried yet - been way too busy actively avoiding it. I'm going to that corner over there and anyone else who's having a tough time (because I'm sure it can't only be me) can come for a group hug any time.

ARxx
At 10:38 PM on 19 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
Aperitif - bagsy me deep field then. Rubbish catcher but really fast runner & a decent throw. At least I was the last time I played rounders....!
At 11:28 PM on 19 Apr 2007, Val P wrote:
Anan Rex - here i am bringing up the coo's tail, as the saying goes up here, perhaps the camel's tail would be more appropriate on the beach? Anyway, I just want to let you know that I'm sending you a ((bighug)), and lots of good thoughts.

Big Sis - sorry to hear you are down in the mouth :o(, not like you?

Fifi - I'm not even going to comment on the fact that it's one of your straplines again:o)

Fearless - when's your M McK concert then? Bet you can't wait, we want a full review please, and photos?

Once again, I've just got here, but it's bedtime already. Ho hum, I'm just going to leap up into this freshly-laundered hammock, if anyone pops by, give me a nudge. If not, I'll see y'all in the morning.
At 08:43 AM on 20 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
Morning all!
Where IS everyone? Is there a new beach??
Well, in the hope of company later, there's fresh coffee, a stack of warm bread & pastries, and some home-make smoothie.

Have a good day, wherever, whatever...
Anna x
At 09:22 AM on 20 Apr 2007, witchiwoman wrote:
AnnaR -thanks for the breakfast offerings! HAve you sloped off towards the hammock yet or are you still upright after your early start? (and well done for making it to the rehersal).

Had soem exciting new/proposition last night. My yoga teacher is considering retiring next year and would like me to take over her class! Just making contact with the 'bodies' involved (classes are through our dc's adult learning wotsit) to see whats involved. Told my Dad/Boss (family business) and the words p**s and parade sprang to mind. Why is it that the people who should be most supportive about following dreams turn out to be the ones who can't muster even a smile for you?

So today I am mostly excited, nervous and hacked off; what a week.

AnnaR - if you're up to it can I call in a belated massage? will reciprocate of course :) x
At 09:32 AM on 20 Apr 2007, Perky wrote:
Anna - sorry it's taken me a while to join you, but I've poured myself a cup of coffee and I'm happy to sit quietly next to you nursing it, whether you want to talk or not. Oh, and I might have snaffled some food too - *quickly brushes off pastry flakes* :)

It's a bit dreary in my April, so it's great to enjoy the warmth on my back and listen to the sea lapping on the rocks - or is it the camels drinking the smoothies?????
At 10:12 AM on 20 Apr 2007, wrote:
Who was it looking for the latest Song to record against?

(Sorry to be so vague..)

Anywhere, here's the link:

Just click on there, and it'll start in a few moments. Try not to re-record the backing track if you can!

Fifi
At 10:43 AM on 20 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
WW - still awake, and trying to take opportunity to get loads of bitty jobs done. I've been up 6 hours and it's only 10:30. That's soooo wrong!

Let me be the first to give you a massive hug, pat on the back and bl**dy great WELL DONE! The yoga proposition is brilliant - you should be really proud. Of all the people they could have chosen... and if it's something you care about then go for it! You sound like the kind of person who'd bring heaps of good stuff to that role.
I think there's something about the relationship between competent adults and their parents that means you often get the kind of response you describe from your Dad, and it's often soul destroying. Without knowing the characters, it's probably a response rooted in love and concern (baby daughter stepping into unknown territory etc etc) but still, gnrrr

I think clary sage (apparently it can induce euphoria!) and lemon - deliciously uplifting. Can add lavender if you want, depends if you need to be awake the rest of the day ;-)

Perky - thank you, you're a star. I am a mass of ups & downs at the mo. Perhaps when I've finished the much-deserving WW's massage, you could join us & we could all just "be" for a while. Thk u.

Anna
xx
At 11:42 AM on 20 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
Right you miserable lot, this place is in a disgusting mess. The NC bar is covered in dirty glasses, there are the remains of breakfasts all over the place, the hammocks haven't been aired and there are people half asleep on the loungers when they should be up and active.

I'm just going to add a couple of barrowloads to the camel midden and generally tidy up the lower end of the beach. By the time I come back I will expect to see a distinct improvement and some suggestions for activities this afternoon.

Who is in charge of lunch today?
At 12:01 PM on 20 Apr 2007, wrote:
The MM gig's next monday, Valp. I'll try to do a review either here or on my blog, but I'm not sure about piccies, as my mobile isn't flash enough to have a built in camera. I'm already hyped up about it. It should be a really good evening:))

RJD, I've prepared some of my lemon, paprika, and soy sauce chicken that people can have either as kebabs or as a more traditional plated lunch. The lamb chops are marinading in yoghurt and mint in the fridge for the barbeque, and I've got some stuffed peppers ready for roasting for those that are not eating meat today. I'll try to rustle up some fish as well if I have time. Is that sufficient for folks?

FFred
At 01:00 PM on 20 Apr 2007, witchiwoman wrote:
AnnaR - thank you so much for the massage and the message! Am very proud and excited - must start making lists of what I need to do/find out etc. Wow! I was never really geared up to be a desk monkey!

RJD - have brrom in hand and am heading crumb-wards!

FF - sounds delish! Have brought some lentil burgers to bolster the veggie side of things (though am v tempted by the peppers). Have also brought some chilled 'real' cider and selection of Sharpe's best!

Right, lets get to that sweeping before hitting the waves!
At 01:10 PM on 20 Apr 2007, wrote:
RJD;
I've just pulled some of my home-made 4 corners pizza out of the charcoal oven.

Hand-made dough properly proven, with herbs, passata, buffalo mozzarella all over.

Q1; vegetarian; peppers, mushrooms, red onion & sweetcorn.

Q2; spicy, meaty; a sprinkling of tikka spices, marinaded & shredded chicken breast, spicy beef.

Q3; spicy, hot; pepperoni, salami, crushed chillies, jalapeno slices, garlic.

Q4; 4 cheese; monterey jack, cheddar and goat (plus the mozz).

With a dish of olives, some mixed unsalted nuts, grissini and dips as side dishes.

It's a monster pizza, so there's plenty to go around. Enjoy!

Si.

Anyone got an ice-cold Italian ale they can recommend?
At 01:17 PM on 20 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
RJD
are you *sure* you're a bloke? ;-)

xx
At 02:01 PM on 20 Apr 2007, wrote:
This has come in from Mrs Trellis:

Heard on Radio 4 (The News Quiz)

1) Commenting on a complaint from a Mr. Arthur Purdey about a large gas bill, a spokesman for North West Gas said, "We agree it was rather high for the time of year. It's possible Mr. Purdey has been charged for the gas used up during the explosion that destroyed his house."
(The Daily Telegraph)

2) Police reveal that a woman arrested for shoplifting had a whole salami in her underwear. When asked why, she said it was because she was missing her Italian boyfriend.
(The Manchester Evening News)

3) Irish police are being handicapped in a search for a stolen van, because they cannot issue a description. It's a Special Branch vehicle and they don't want the public to know what it looks like.
(The Guardian)

4) A young girl who was blown out to sea on a set of inflatable teeth was rescued by a man on an inflatable lobster. A coast guard spokesman commented, "This sort of thing is all too common".
(The Times)

5) At the height of the gale, the harbourmaster radioed a coastguard and asked him to estimate the wind speed. He replied he was sorry, but he didn't have a gauge. However, if it was any help, the wind had just blown his Land Rover off the cliff.
(Aberdeen Evening Express)

6) Mrs. Irene Graham of Thorpe Avenue, Boscombe, delighted the audience with her reminiscence of the German prisoner of war who was sent each week to do her garden. He was repatriated at the end of 1945, she recalled. "He'd always seemed a nice friendly chap, but when the crocuses came up in the middle of our lawn in February 1946, they spelt out 'Heil Hitler.'"
(Bournemouth Evening Echo)

There may be more later, once we're free of the Malicious Postings Pixie.

;o)

Fifi
At 02:01 PM on 20 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
Ah! much better. I'm just going to wash off the eau-de-camel and then I'm having something of everything.

Would it be awfully bad to crack open a couple of bottles to celebrate Carrie Gracie on PM? Am I right in thinking that this is the first time she has presented it?
At 02:16 PM on 20 Apr 2007, wrote:
And this, also from Mrs Trellis:

A list of actual announcements that London Tube train drivers have made to their passengers...

1) "Ladies and Gentlemen, I do apologise for the delay to your service. I know you're all dying to get home, unless, of course, you happen to be married to my ex-wife, in which case you'll want to cross over to the Westbound and go in the opposite direction."

2) "Your delay this evening is caused by the line controller suffering from E & B syndrome: not knowing his elbow from his backside. I'll let you know any further information as soon as I'm given any."

3) "Do you want the good news first or the bad news? The good news is that last Friday was my birthday and I hit the town and had a great time. The bad news is that there is a points failure somewhere between Stratford and East Ham, which means we probably won't reach our destination."

4) "Ladies and gentlemen, we apologise for the delay, but there is a security alert at Victoria station and we are therefore stuck here for the foreseeable future, so let's take our minds off it and pass some time together. All together now.... 'Ten green bottles, hanging on a wall.....'."

5) "We are now travelling through Baker Street...As you can see, Baker Street is closed. It would have been nice if they had actually told me, so I could tell you earlier, but no, they don't think about things like that".

6) "Beggars are operating on this train. Please do NOT encourage these professional beggars. If you have any spare change, please give it to a registered charity. Failing that, give it to me."

7) During an extremely hot rush hour on the Central Line, the driver announced in a West Indian drawl: "Step right this way for the sauna, ladies and gentleman... unfortunately, towels are not provided."

8) "Let the passengers off the train FIRST!" (Pause.) "Oh go on then, stuff yourselves in like sardines, see if I care - I'm going home...."

9) "Please allow the doors to close. Try not to confuse this with 'Please hold the doors open.' The two are distinct and separate instructions."

10) "Please note that the beeping noise coming from the doors means that the doors are about to close. It does not mean throw yourself or your bags into the doors."

11) "We can't move off because some idiot has their hand stuck in the door."

12) "To the gentleman wearing the long grey coat trying to get on the second carriage - what part of 'stand clear of the doors' don't you understand?"

13) "Please move all baggage away from the doors." (Pause..) "Please move ALL belongings away from the doors." (Pause...) "This is a personal message to the man in the brown suit wearing glasses at the rear of the train: Put the pie down, Four-eyes, and move your bl**dy
golf clubs away from the door before I come down there and shove them up your a**e sideways!"

14) "May I remind all passengers that there is strictly no smoking allowed on any part of the Underground. However, if you are smoking a joint, it's only fair that you pass it round the rest of the carriage."

Fifi
At 02:19 PM on 20 Apr 2007, Aunt Dahlia wrote:
I have to tell someone - I've just heard my first cuckoo this year, on the hill at about 10a.m.
O tra la spring is sprung
Can we have a Maypole?
We could try the camels on morris dancing, make a change from tangoing?
At 02:39 PM on 20 Apr 2007, witchiwoman wrote:
RJD - sounds like a great plan. Was going to abstain today but hey, there go those good intentions right over the dunes!
At 02:41 PM on 20 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
Anna Rex - I will leave that for others to comment on!
At 02:59 PM on 20 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
Aunt Dahlia - I always thought you were cuckoo!

As for morris dancing camels, do we have enough bells?
At 04:17 PM on 20 Apr 2007, wrote:
Where is everyone -- I'm talking to Eddie on his train journey and there is only you around RJD :_(
At 04:36 PM on 20 Apr 2007, witchiwoman wrote:
Jonnie - I've been playing too! :)
At 04:56 PM on 20 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
Right I'm having a beer and a listen to PM.

Aunt Dahlia can you take those camels and bells and sticks and hankies and practise somewhere else please?
At 04:58 PM on 20 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
Snort

Huh?

Oh

Sorry

WW's cider, RJD's celebratory bottles... just resting my eyes there for a moment. Asleep? How dare you!

Fifi - thank you - I LOL'd, which was v therapeutic.

Must keep eyes open.... band practice to lead 7:30-9:30pm. Then bar. I mean bed. Oh s*d it, I mean bar, let's be honest.

And WW, don't you dare abstain - you ought to be celebrating :-) xx
At 05:12 PM on 20 Apr 2007, Perky wrote:
I've been keeping Eric company too, although I'm not sure he's grateful to any of us....

I have, however, just downloaded to plug-in that lets me listen to the latest version of the Froggers' Song - how fantastic does that sound???? I LOVE GM's "pm, pm-ing" and the harp sounds just gorgeous. It made me want to get all the percussion out and start recording again!

Have to dash off to take DD to a party, but have placed (very carefully, so I don't upset RJD by leaving crumbs) some home-made shortbread on the bar and some potato salad with yoghurt and mint for the BBQ later.
At 05:32 PM on 20 Apr 2007, Izzy T'Me wrote:
Fifi - oh stop do - my sides and head are hurting too much!

Well done everyone for the clearing up - it's all looking very spick and span. Have I missed all the good nosh?

In reparation for shirking the chores (this assignment's getting on my nerves now), I've brought some yummy dark chocolate mousse and some fresh raspberries with "special" cream. Oh, and some Friday night fizz - I'm guessing some partying needs to go on here to cheer everyone up.

Help yourselves
At 06:27 PM on 20 Apr 2007, Aunt Dahlia wrote:
Right, we've given up on the morris dancing. Trying to work out the moves for an eightsome reel with five camels is beyond our mathematical expertise.
We have therefore;
made several wind chimes with the bells (14/6 each),
tied the hankies together as an escape rope for EdI's treehouse (19/4d)
put the sticks in the sand as a sort of sundial. (please bear in mind that camels are not very ambidextrous, or even terribly dexterous, and their efforts may resemble a bonfire, a bit.
Any one got any matches?
At 06:52 PM on 20 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
Wow - someone's left a massive bowl of dark chocolate mousse and fresh raspberries - one of life's best combos - don't mind me while I just test it out...
But hold on a minute, what's this very "special"-tasting cream? Ooooh, I feel, like, wow. This is a new feeling.
I'm soooo hungry....
zzzzz
At 06:58 PM on 20 Apr 2007, Izzy T'Me wrote:
Anna - Glad you're enjoying it. Just to let you know "special" is the same as "Friday night fizz" - you just take a mouthful and it's whatever your favourite is, which can be different for everyone! I'm afraid the recipe is top secret - even from froggers, sorry.

;o)
At 07:09 PM on 20 Apr 2007, Gillian wrote:
Perky (222) I'm just peeking out from behind this dune to whisper to you.......
It was I who did the ''PM'' bit on the song....though I'm sure GM could do a better job........I'm not disparaging her talents....ooh heck!
I'll just slink back to my hidey-hole......
At 07:17 PM on 20 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
Izzy
Ahem. I wondered why I could taste so much neat gin in the pudding ;-) Thank you.

Better go & tune up; save a degustation for me, would you - need to tempt appetite back a bit.

Ta
xxx
At 07:28 PM on 20 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
Gillian - I knew that it was you who was PM-ing. But I don't know how I knew!
At 08:38 PM on 20 Apr 2007, Gillian wrote:
RJD (229) You know more than you think you know! It must have been my accent that did it for you ;o)
At 09:24 PM on 20 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
"The journal of camel practice and research" is the HIGNFY guest publication!!! I'm sure I recognise at least two of them. Fame, darlings!
At 10:16 PM on 20 Apr 2007, Molly wrote:
Spurred on by Anna R's carrot and coriannder soup (lovely, Anna!) and my penchant for lists, why don't we have a '''foodie'' list of frogger's favourite recipes sometime?

Si seems to have a few morsels up his sleeve, not to mention RJD and FFred! they could all be put together for me- I mean anyone- to use..

Yum-Yum !

Mollyxxx
At 11:02 PM on 20 Apr 2007, Aperitif wrote:
Hi everyone! Oh this place looks nice and tidy! And look at all the lovely food -- cheers guys! Nice bottle of port here to wash the evening down.

Fifi, thanks for the News Quiz clips -- right up my street! Hahahaha!

Game of scrabble anyone?
At 11:30 PM on 20 Apr 2007, Big Sister wrote:
Well, what a day! I need a drink and a lie down.

Coming in, I spotted Mr. (Sean) Bean in earnest conversation with the camel with the extreme eyelashes and reminded him that he'd promised me one of his most special massages. Tonight's the night, if ever one was required. So, I'm off to find a nice quiet corner away from the revellers and Sean's busy mixing his most soothing oils .....

As a precaution, I'm setting up a five mile exclusion zone around the area - DO NOT DISTURB!
At 12:00 AM on 21 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
How come I always end up with an X, V and Q?
At 08:52 AM on 21 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
Aha! - that will do! Lets see
Q U I X O T R Y. That's double letter and triple word and 12, 48, 57 Hmm OK, I make that 171- any point going on?
At 09:22 AM on 21 Apr 2007, Gillian wrote:
Morning all! Bucks Fizz for breakfast....though I'll have my orange juice seperately, please. .....to celebrate Molly's news about her daughter. Now if she could just get a work placement at PM, Molly.........;o)
At 10:22 AM on 21 Apr 2007, Aperitif wrote:
Morning all.

I rarely get beaten at Scrabble RJD. Were you stealing my letters whilst I was asleep?
At 11:35 AM on 21 Apr 2007, wrote:
Appy - I tried to put 'moistened' on a double word score last night but I appear to have been moderated! In any case, RJD seems to have stolen all the high-scoring letters overnight and left us with all the miserable ones!

Gillian - I loved your 'pm pm pm' bits on the demo song, and it's much more inspired than my contribution! Congrats on being read out, and is that your strapline?? Maybe you should buy a lottery ticket today ! :-)

Aunt D - save that big pole off the bonfire and we'll make a maypole. I'll have a bash at teaching the camels a Barber's Pole & Plait!
At 01:08 PM on 21 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
Ap & Gossipmistress - I am truly offended by these allegations. Just because you lost. I don't think I want to play with you again!

I will be sulking at the far end of the beach.
At 01:17 PM on 21 Apr 2007, wrote:
I'm just off to the supermarket. Anyone want anything while I'm there?

Fifi
At 02:30 PM on 21 Apr 2007, Gillian wrote:
GM- thanks. There were 5 of us read out, and I wouldn't normally have mentioned it, but it came up in the conversation.....

I'm not Gill btw....well I am, but not here! Well done to her though - she's had a couple of straplines lately.....don't tell Humph!

Rhubarb and orange compote on the bar, with real vanilla ice-cream in the freezer. By the looks of things, I may have to eat it all myself!
At 04:04 PM on 21 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
When you wake up, turn on the radio and hear "Money Box", you know you've overslept.

What are all these little cream squares with letters on them doing littering up the beach? Ah well, I'll do my duty and tidy them up.
At 04:12 PM on 21 Apr 2007, wrote:
Ah, Gillian, I'll join you. If there's any left. There's some pinot grigio in the fridge, which should go splendidly afterwards.

Fifi
At 05:13 PM on 21 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
Good old Sai***ury's. 30% off the vino today. Case of Oyster Bay behind the bar. Even Ap and Gossipmistress can have a glass, although I'm still a bit sore about being called a cheat. I know words like "genizah" you know!
At 05:22 PM on 21 Apr 2007, Perky wrote:
Gillian (227) Sorry!! I just had it in my head that it was GM, for some reason - well done you; I thought they were lovely and jolly! No need to hide - in fact, come out so that I don't feel bad eating your compote without you being there.

And I have to confess that it's my strapline, and I should really give my full name when I'm sending emails to PM - I must have missed the other one that was used, but it's nice to see one up there at last.

Humph - I did send a list of straplines in AGES ago, and had actually given up all hope of seeing them up there - especially when there are so many talented strappers out there!

It's nice enough for Pimms, I think, so there's a jug on the bar, along with a few bowls of acoutrements so that you can decorate your own.
At 05:43 PM on 21 Apr 2007, Gillian wrote:
Perky (246) Well done - nice strapline! Please don't use your real name if you send in any more....we'll never know it's you!
At 05:48 PM on 21 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
RJD
Oh butter! I've just been to Sai***ury's and didn't bother doing the wine aisle cos I have enough to get me through to the next visit. Wish they'd ring me up & tell me - it would be in their interest!! The Oyster Bay is delish, thank you. I have something cooking in the kitchen, a 'speriment. If it works, I'll bring it to the beach and you can all try. It's another soup, but that's all I'll say for now.

Oh, heck, sorry - I forgot - I'm using that vibrant green face pack again. Wondered why all the camels just went galloping away.

Just found some lovely compote....
At 06:31 PM on 21 Apr 2007, wrote:
It's very quiet here on the Beach today, but several sets of footprints in the sand hinting at previous visitors.

I'll just flop down here on this lilo with my pinot grigio, and hope someone else drops by soon to share it.

* Ouch! *

Forgot how saddle-sore I am after over-enthusiastically wobbling down to the pub on my bike on Wednesday for the first time this year.

Anyone know any cures for a poorly posterior? It's most undignified!

Fifi
At 06:57 PM on 21 Apr 2007, Perky wrote:
Fifi - I had a bizarre contraption to use after the birth of my second child, but I'm not sure you'd really want me to go into detail. I can vaguely remember warm water and some sort of pump, but I was a bit dazed . . .

My only real practical advice is to invest in some proper cyclists' padded underwear. I'm told it makes all the difference!
At 07:13 PM on 21 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
Ooh Fifi, sounds painful. Good on you for getting the bike out tho - I've been tempted too now it's getting warmer... I might just take Perky's advice first! (undies, not pump & warm water. That latter sounds way too much like colonic irrigation - who was doing this vile act to you, Perky??)
At 07:34 PM on 21 Apr 2007, Gillian wrote:
Fifi, sit on an inflatable swim ring for now, and use a gel-filled saddle cover as well as the padded pants the next time this sort of madness afflicts you ;o)
At 07:36 PM on 21 Apr 2007, wrote:
I do have the padded lycra shorts, Perky. And I could have got away with them under the jeans. But I was too cocky, thought I could handle a quick half-mile...

How very wrong I was.

:o(

Fifi xx
At 08:19 PM on 21 Apr 2007, Anna Rex wrote:
Well, even if I say so myself, the soup experiment worked wonderfully. It's definitely a new entry to my Top Five. It's tomato and basil and it's completely veggie.

**NUT WARNING** (no, not me...!)
I added pearl barley, which I think made all the difference to texture. But there's a warning on the bag saying it may contain traces of nut.

So, the big Le Creuset on the bar is full of homemade tomato soup, nothing like what you'd get from a tin. Let me know what you think. Molly (and anyone else) if you like it I can give recipe. I like the idea of a froggers' recipe-share. I need a reliable recipe for fruit scones if anyone can oblige...
At 09:19 PM on 21 Apr 2007, Izzy T'Me wrote:
Right then everybody.....

Anna - Large bowl of soup please

Fifi - Very large glass of Pinot please

And everybody else - large part of the beach for having a dance in

Why the bossy ordering around?

I've just finished (apart from a bit of tarting) my Contaminated Land Assignment - ta da!!! I feel as though I've been molded to this chair, I've been in it so much over the last week or so. So it's a celebration - hoorah!

(I can spend tomorrow in the garden - yippee! Although it's probably going to rain, knowing my luck!)
At 09:22 PM on 21 Apr 2007, Aperitif wrote:
Thanks for the olive branch drink RJD. What's 'genizah' mean then?

Lovely soup Anna R -- thanks!

Fifi, would a float in the sea not help???
At 09:44 PM on 21 Apr 2007, Molly wrote:
Anna Rex (254)

Yes please!
I'm going to dig out fruit buns for you ....

Mollyxx..
At 09:55 PM on 21 Apr 2007, wrote:
Izzy ... there you go ... large glass of chilled grigio. And you deserve it.

One day when I'm less stressed out, we must have a fun conversation about contaminated land. I know more about it than I'd like, being a near neighbour to a hazardous waste landfill!

* I'm in the mood for dancing ... romancing ... *

Fifi ;o)
At 10:17 PM on 21 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
Ap - No way! - look it it up if you want to know!

Molly - "I'm going to dig out fruit buns for you" I feel as if I should just head to the naughty corner without saying a word! And that was without even reading Fifi talking about "padded lycra shorts"

Can I take a book with me?
At 11:14 PM on 21 Apr 2007, Izzy T'Me wrote:
Fifi - thank you. Lets dance..............
At 11:22 PM on 21 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
I'm sure I insulted someone here earlier on. Where is it?
At 09:47 AM on 22 Apr 2007, wrote:
RJD - beeb has installed special spyware to detect & eliminate your insults before they reach the blog. Remember Eddie's advice. "Be nice"!
At 10:02 AM on 22 Apr 2007, Aperitif wrote:
RJD (259), Of course you can take a book -- "Happy Days with the Naked Chef"... :-)
At 11:17 AM on 22 Apr 2007, Molly wrote:
RJD
I knew it!!!- you know the way......

Anna Rex (RJD- that way>>>)!

did you want buns or scones?

Mollyxx
At 12:17 PM on 22 Apr 2007, RJD wrote:
Annasee - But it was a very, very gentle insult and done in a "nice" way!

Ap - I'd rather do solitary than have Jamie Oliver for company.
At 12:41 PM on 22 Apr 2007, Aunt Dahlia wrote:
Eeeeeeuwwww
'Invest in some proper cyclists' padded underwear', if they were proper cyclists, wouldn't they still be wearing them - it ?
At 08:42 PM on 22 Apr 2007, Aperitif wrote:
Oh Aunt D!

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