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Eddie Mair | 11:54 UK time, Wednesday, 23 August 2006


In these times of heightened security and anxiety to match (current official threat level: "Yikes") there are some things that cheer.

There was an incident - it passed of peacefully - at Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport this morning. Speaking on behalf of the airport is someone called Mirjam Snoerwang.

Comments

  1. At 12:01 PM on 23 Aug 2006, James wrote:

    Is "Yikes" very high?

  2. At 12:06 PM on 23 Aug 2006, John H. wrote:

    Just above "Oh 'eck" I think you'll find.

  3. At 12:06 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Chris wrote:

    Presumably "Yikes" is a lower threat level than "New trousers please!"

  4. At 12:09 PM on 23 Aug 2006, James wrote:

    Thanks for that, I was wondering whether I should be getting worried and heading for the hills again...

  5. At 12:14 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Fearless Fred wrote:

    I thought Yikes was one step below aggrieved mumbling....

  6. At 12:18 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Stephen wrote:

    I fear this may become a new swear word, given it follows on from "Balls" and "Crap" in the run of titles.

    Oh and Messers Mair & Muir, who isn't appearing on the show tonight?

  7. At 12:20 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Windy Millar wrote:

    ...and where exactly does "Zoiks" fit into the Official Threat Level......?

  8. At 12:25 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Andy wrote:

    I think, Fearless Fred, you have your threat level list upside down, Yikes is clearly above aggrieved mumbling and below new trousers please.

    But I think Eddie got it wrong, I thought that we were past even new trousers please and into sit in the corner rocking whilst gasping 鈥渨e鈥檙e all doomed鈥 in a Fraser-esk fashion. At least that is what I though John Reid said.

  9. At 12:27 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    Quite the opposite end of the scale to 'Tally ho!'.

  10. At 12:27 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Cathy Harrison wrote:

    Mirjam Snoerwang? Eddie, I wait, with bated breath, to hear you pronounce this on tonight's programme ...

  11. At 12:30 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Fearless Fred wrote:

    You are, of course, right, Andy. I had my list reversed. Oh for those happy days gone by when the threat level was mildly peeved....

  12. At 12:33 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Doris wrote:

    Translated to the US system the threat level is equivalent to "Chartreuse." I think.

  13. At 12:40 PM on 23 Aug 2006, SimonP wrote:

    Isn't Chartreuse a place in France?

    We all know how the Americans feel about the French...

  14. At 12:41 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Jezetha wrote:

    As a Dutchman I want to explain that the surname 'Snoerwang' is just as funny and strange to me as it'll look and sound to you. Literally it means something like 'cord cheek'?! But perhaps the name isn't originally Dutch, but German or Danish. You pronounce it 'snoorvung'. Cheers!

  15. At 12:47 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    Tom Cruise apparently, won't be on the show tonight.

  16. At 12:50 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Valery Pedant wrote:

    Did Mirjam Snoerwang write the email today - or am I the only one that cares that "passed of peacefully" doesn't make sense?

    Btw DOES anyone know if Joan Bakewell is one of the Crap-ers, or should I post that back in the other thread?

  17. At 12:51 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Windy Millar wrote:

    captain Snort is to appear on tonight's show - he'll be interviewed live from Pippin Fort on the continuing terrorist threat posed by Mrs Honeyman in trumpton....

    ...Oh dear, I've one of my headaches coming on again.......MOTHER!

  18. At 01:14 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    If anyone is familiar with the actual names of the threat levels, "Yikes" seems just as sensible. For instance the MOD has a threat level called "Bikini Black" and this I believe is quite high up on the 'oh my God we are all going to die' scale. Apparently...

  19. At 01:16 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Sara wrote:

    I'm glad Eddie is cheered by the prospect of talking with Ms Snoerwang; her English is sure to be better than his Dutch. Let's hope Eddie doesn't need to mention Scheveningen.

    Is it any surprise that the Dutch succeeded in selling us Big Brother?

  20. At 01:17 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Ali D wrote:

    Tune in at six for all the news on PM.

  21. At 01:24 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    Bikini Black is the lowest.

    I'll not post them all here as I can't remember if that particular list is officially public knowledge. or not.

    Tim.C

  22. At 01:30 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    At the risk of further censorship, this is Black Bikini :

    ... don't expect this post to survive - read it quick!

  23. At 01:31 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Morag R wrote:

    "it passed of peacefully" - I think you mean "off". I know it doesn't matter on radio, but what hope for the nation if the mighty 成人快手 can't get it right online?

  24. At 01:32 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Mark Drew wrote:

    Just to spoil the suprise Dutch F-16s escorted a Northwest Airlines flight bound for India back to Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport on Wednesday, and authorities detained several passengers for questioning" is what you will hear from Ms. Mirjam Snoerwang.

  25. At 01:35 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Fearless Fred wrote:

    Actually, Tobias, on MoD sites, all the threat levels are referred to by a Bikini code. Black is fairly tame. Usually you'll see MoD sites on Black Special. I've never seen a site on White... You can find details on the various levels on Wiki:

    I must admit, for years I wondered why they called it Bikini. The idea of all those squaddies in swimwear doesn't bear thinking about, does it!

  26. At 01:41 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    Yikes

  27. At 01:42 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    andycragg - that's certainly what we all wanted it to mean !!

    Those were the days.

    I've been trying to remember, but I'm not sure if it was that actual list/system that we weren't supposed to talk about or just which level was currently in force. I just remember it was one on the things not to talk about down the pub.

    I do remember that it was set specifically for the circumstances - ie for one location and the people who worked/visited the site - not a general cover all level.

    These new levels seem to be being used more generally - but is the threat level really the same in a field in Scotland as in the lobby of a London airport.
    Or is it just our London biased media making it sound like that.

    Or maybe I wasn't listening properly ;-)


    Tim.C

    ps Schiphol Airport is my favourite of all the ones I've been to (not many, I'll admit)

  28. At 01:48 PM on 23 Aug 2006, John H. wrote:

    I think, officially, it's "oh eck".

  29. At 01:57 PM on 23 Aug 2006, SimonP wrote:

    According to the MI5 website the current threat level is "Severe". Is this different to Bikini Black? Does every government department have its own threat levels? When is it time to start hiding under the table?

  30. At 01:59 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    I did hunt around for a while Andy but couldn't find any reference to the codes but thanks for that. My point remains, 'Yikes' is descriptive but not in an offensive, 'eugh' way. I was on an MOD site a year ago. My memory is somewhat hazy.

    I never really trust wiki.

  31. At 02:03 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    Simon, don't worry about hiding under the table, lean a mattress against the wll, hide in the cupboard under the stairs and that should withstand a nuclear explosion. Tut tut, under the table indeed, where is that going to get you?

    ;)

  32. At 02:10 PM on 23 Aug 2006, SimonP wrote:

    I'll come out then.

    I have been getting some funny looks in the office.

    Anyone got a mattress I could borrow?

  33. At 02:15 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    Tobias - your memory is going hazy. You need to lean a solid door against the wall first, then lean the mattress against that.

    A don't forget to store two weeks of food in there !

    Tim.C

    (My youth club still don't really believe that we were taught at school how to build nuclear shelters!)

  34. At 02:21 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    * At 01:30 PM on 23 Aug 2006,
    * andycragg wrote:

    At the risk of further censorship, this is Black Bikini :

    How did you do that? (I think I've just worked it out)
    xx
    ed

  35. At 02:23 PM on 23 Aug 2006, John Doe wrote:

    Why no mention of the "Breaking Moos" ... not all cows speak 成人快手 English according to Dorset farmers!

  36. At 02:24 PM on 23 Aug 2006, John H. wrote:

    I think the generally used scale, working upwards to higher threat levels, is something like:

    Everything OK
    Oh
    Oh eck
    Yikes
    Bloody hell
    Oh Sh*t

    "New trousers please!", "aggrieved mumbling" and "zoiks" were all on the old scale. I openly admit that I do not understand how changing the colour of your bikini affects the threat level.

    And Tobias is right about the table. Completely useless as a response to national security issues. It remains, though, the approved response to gurblars breaking into you house.

  37. At 02:26 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    At the risk of further censorship, this is a second attempt :


  38. At 02:28 PM on 23 Aug 2006, John H. wrote:

    OK, what on earth is going on with the lists of coments? Surely I'm not the only one who is experiencing comments appearing and then disappearing? I know a couple of people were discussing censorship earlier in the day, but this looks more like a technical issue to me. I did appeal to Lissa in a post on "crap" earlier so perhaps I should make my way over there to see if she replied. I'm using the latest Firefox browser, if that helps somebody in the know to make sense of what's going on.

  39. At 02:30 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    Tim C. Yes I would not survive such a cataclysmic event with a method such as mine. SimonP, pay no attention to what I said, Tim has me bang to rights. Meanwhile, I suggest you get back under that table, unless you have already loosened a door that is. Oh and located a mattress. Your colleagues may scoff but they will not be around to pour scorn on you and your highly effective 'shelter'.

  40. At 02:32 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Stephen wrote:

    Tim C

    If you learnt about nuclear shelters at school, you are clearly far too old to be going to a youth club.

    Anyway, haven't you forgotten the paper bag over your head?

  41. At 02:33 PM on 23 Aug 2006, John H. wrote:

    Ed, perhaps that would have been more impressive if the link had worked...

    成人快手

    ...for example.

  42. At 02:34 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    Quoted from the newsletter ('PM lite' as I like refer to it)

    "there are developments in the case of the Cheadle Hulme murders. We'll look too at the hospital where the number of childbirth related deaths was more than six times the national average."

    Are these deaths related then or am I misreading this?

  43. At 02:39 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    ROFL*

    The youth club in question is one I help run - I am, as you guess, far too old to to count as yoof.

    As for the paper bag - my wife still insists on that - though I'm not sure whether I believe it's really in case of nuclear attack.


    Tim.C


    * Is my use of 'ROFL' here going to cause another strange discussion, I wonder?

  44. At 02:40 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    * At 02:33 PM on 23 Aug 2006,
    * John H. wrote:

    Ed, perhaps that would have been more impressive if the link had worked...

    ...for example.
    xx
    ed

  45. At 02:41 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    I've been informed that calling it 'PM lite' does not make it any less damaging to ones health. I am now forced to rebrand it back to 'PM'.

  46. At 02:47 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    Sorrt, forgot to add.

    The page of comments here will be dynamically generated from some form of database.

    Basically, that means that if the page loading is interupted or stops for some reason you'll only get some of the posts.

    This has happened for me a few times, however a quick refresh/reload gets all the posts back.

    Tim.C


    Disclaimer: All the above is assumed from the evidence as an outside observer - I'm in no way involved in the system, and I don't even know what system it is or if it is a 成人快手 bespoke system.

  47. At 02:48 PM on 23 Aug 2006, SimonP wrote:

    Wasn't the door and mattress thing in a Raymond Briggs film? Old couple follow instructions re table and mattress but then come out too soon and die from radiation sickness...

    Or did I imagine all of that?

  48. At 02:54 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    SimonP 'When the Wind Blows'

    The characters face slowly drops off from the radiation poisoning. He was just glad to be alive though.

  49. At 02:58 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Stephen wrote:

    ROFL

    Presumably not a confused Australian, but akin to LMAO, but more polite.

    Let see how far this gets before someone asks.

  50. At 03:01 PM on 23 Aug 2006, John H. wrote:

    Tim C. thanks for that. It really doesn't matter if your theory about the workings of the list is right or not. It sounds entirely plausible and so will do for me and I shall now stop worrying about it.

    Ed. (43) - sorry, that did sound a bit pompous. However, I still can't follow your link. 2 possibilities occur to me: 1. hilarious intentional failure of the link and sufficient content is held in the file name "biff.jpg" to make this possible or 2. for some reason, I personally cannot access your server, but otherwise it's fine.

  51. At 03:02 PM on 23 Aug 2006, whisht wrote:

    Right.
    We now have:
    a "balls" thread;
    a "crap" thread;
    and now a "Snoerwang" ('cord cheek') thread.

    or cord.

    Realising this doesn't make me feel any better.
    In fact I now feel a bit grubby.

  52. At 03:10 PM on 23 Aug 2006, whisht wrote:

    oh god.

    I made an I.T. joke.
    and worse than that - I got it wrong. And as you'd assume, I got it wrong technically.

    Yep. This is a blog and I made reference to "threads" which appear on discussion boards.

    I'll probably be chided before I can even type this retraction. God.

    y'know, it wasn't even that funny. Would I have got away with it if I'd said it in a brummie accent..? or was that yesterday's blog..? or thread..?

  53. At 03:11 PM on 23 Aug 2006, John H. wrote:

    Let's just hope that Eric doesn't do a piece on Sir Richard Attenborough tomorrow.

  54. At 03:12 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Frances O wrote:

    andycrabb, I don't like the idea of an encrusted bikini. Not atoll.

    How long has she been back from her hols? Surely it's time to wash it now?

    It's not Monica L's bikini, is it???

  55. At 03:14 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Valery Pedant wrote:

    Wish I could stop worrying about it John H! Where do lost posts go?

    I do think the most difficult part is keeping track of which thread is which. However it's yet another good way of avoiding sudoku yet still keeping the brain exercised... I hate sudoku with a vengeance.

  56. At 03:19 PM on 23 Aug 2006, John H. wrote:

    Valery, I believe lost posts go to live on a farm in Wales. It's really the very best thing for them.

    Frances O (53) - no, no, no! Wrong. On every level.

  57. At 03:19 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Valery Pedant wrote:

    So, let's get this right, don't you get threads within blogs? what are they called then?

    PS Why not Sir R A then? I'm losing the place......

  58. At 03:20 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Valery Pedant wrote:

    or is it soduko?

  59. At 03:21 PM on 23 Aug 2006, John H. wrote:

    It's just occurred to me that Valery left crap (oh, ...) to go and live outside "Blogworld" and got as far as here. Never mind the Newsletter, I think this thing should come with a health warning.

  60. At 03:25 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    The irony of it all....

    "Threads" being a film about the aftermath of a nuclear attack.

    Suddenly the whole blog come together in a single concise complementary set of comments.

    Or maybe not...

    Tim.C

  61. At 03:25 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Valery Pedant wrote:

    Tbh, that had just occurred to me too... addictive isn't it?

    Sir Richard Attenborough though, I must be told before I go?

  62. At 03:31 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    The irony of it all....

    "Threads" being a film about the aftermath of a nuclear attack.

    Suddenly the whole blog come together in a single concise complementary set of comments.

    Or maybe not...

    Tim.C

  63. At 03:40 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    The irony of it all....

    "Threads" being a film about the aftermath of a nuclear attack.

    Suddenly the whole blog come together in a single concise complementary set of comments.

    Or maybe not...

    Tim.C

  64. At 03:44 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    Oops sorry about that - but other people's later posted comments were coming up and mine wasn't.

    I did wait 6 and 15 minutes before trying again !

    It's actually put my first post where it belongs before a post that was already there.

    MOD if you do read these please delete all but the last one - Ta !

    This blog lark is making me go crazy - I'm going out into the real world for a while.

    I may be some time...

  65. At 03:56 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Fearless Fred wrote:

    Sorry about that, folks. I got called away to a meeting. What did I miss?

    Sheesh! You've been busy, haven't you!

  66. At 04:03 PM on 23 Aug 2006, whisht wrote:

    Well done Tim - and at least today we're being complimentary.

    Perhaps this posts comments revealing our tensions of being under the shadow of impending nuclear doom and all this threat talk, its made us all just want to get along...

    or maybe it was the bikinis.

  67. At 04:05 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Frances O wrote:

    John H - phew (a very low rating on the relief scale), that's a relief

    Was quite putting me off GQTs

    ROTFLMAO, as they post in the US

  68. At 04:15 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    * At 03:01 PM on 23 Aug 2006,
    * John H. wrote:

    Ed. (43) - sorry, that did sound a bit pompous. However, I still can't follow your link.

    The first one was an error on my part, but 43 and 36 both worked in preview and from here...
    You still can't get them?

    How about ?
    (works in preview)
    xx ed

  69. At 04:23 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    Well, I've been away for a few mins - and well, I am a popular fellow.

    • Sorry Ed, I think my encrusted bikini pic is slightly more attractive than your arab (its you, isn't it?)
    • And, Frances O, O Frances : its andycragg, but I'll forgive you - it could have been worse : andycrapp.

    Who is Monica L?

  70. At 04:29 PM on 23 Aug 2006, The Stainless Steel Cat wrote:

    ROTFLMAO

    I think the British equivalent is LOLATAFBSEU.

    (Laugh Out Loud And Then Apologise For Being So Embarrassingly Uncouth)

  71. At 04:32 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    * At 04:23 PM on 23 Aug 2006,
    * andycragg wrote:

    * Sorry Ed, I think my encrusted bikini pic is slightly more attractive than your arab (its you, isn't it?)

    Agreed, and did you note that there's a link to an "enlarge" option? Shades of my inbox!
    Salaam
    ed

  72. At 04:33 PM on 23 Aug 2006, John H. wrote:

    Ed, 67 works just fine. 43 and 36 still don't - they're returning "can't find server" errors.

  73. At 04:38 PM on 23 Aug 2006, John H. wrote:

    Well, Ed, I guess andycradd's 68 post pretty much confirms that the problem is at my end - unless he cunningly read the link and guessed!

    Can't ping the server either - does that mean it's a DNS error?

  74. At 04:50 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote: Ed I didn't notice the enlarge option - it works! Unlike those promises in our inboxes. I'd imagine. O Frances Lewinsky! Duh, just got it. That's rude.

    I liked the leaf thing.

    ps : someone from the 成人快手 just looked at my website - could it have been Eric 'imself? I am most honoured.

    pps : tables don't work when "using tags for style" - I just spent ages formatting this post and, well just look at it. Oh well.

  75. At 05:04 PM on 23 Aug 2006, John Pollard wrote:

    I showed "Snoerwang" to a Flemish Belgian colleague expecting her to comment on the political correctness of finding the word humourous. Surprisingly she pointed out that there are many strange Dutch surnames in the Netherlands - apparently when the concept of the surname was introduced in Holland the Dutch thought this would be a temporary measure and many of them made them up without much thought being used.

  76. At 05:17 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Phil wrote:

    If Tony Blair is the great Loan Arranger,
    which one of his cronies can I label as Tonto?


  77. At 05:18 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Sheena wrote:

    And my sister-in-law lives on a road called 'Waasenarseweg' in the Netherlands. Not just surnames, apparently!

  78. At 05:19 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    John H : Must be a local DNS error - I didn't do anything cunning (checked spelling) or do any guessing. Sorry.

    I tried being cunning with a beautifully formatted post which failed.

    Waiting for Erics "Snoerwang" attempt ....

  79. At 05:36 PM on 23 Aug 2006, James wrote:

    I think the latest threat level should be: "George, don't do that!"

  80. At 05:43 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    Welcome to spooky..

    I used to live in the town of Scheviningen, in a road called Skoolstraat - just down the road from Wassenaarseweg !!

    Tim.C

  81. At 05:45 PM on 23 Aug 2006, whisht wrote:

    I think Eddie was asking for "footsy"

    Looking at their webcam he seems to be sitting there all on his own.

    How sad.

    Eddie, there's a lot of love out here. Just reach out.

  82. At 05:45 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    Some folk will go to a lot of trouble to ensure fresh produce, even in the age of internet ordering for home delivery:
    Did anyone see this?
    Travelling grocer

    All in a day's work, I guess....
    ed

  83. At 05:48 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    Eddie.

    I'm standing on your Blog!

  84. At 05:54 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    Sounded like "Shnuurrlwine" to me - what do others think?

  85. At 05:57 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Fearless Fred wrote:

    nice pronounciation, Eddie! I thought you deliberately rushed it first time, but you seemed to relish the second time.....

  86. At 05:57 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    Did anyone catch the FTSE index?

  87. At 05:59 PM on 23 Aug 2006, wrote:

    I think he has a bet on for how many times he can mention the FTSE index.

    It was in there again !!

  88. At 05:59 PM on 23 Aug 2006, whisht wrote:

    He's repeating "FTSE" now over and over... trying to cover up all that need.

    Its really quite sad.

  89. At 06:40 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Lissa, PM Blog Producer wrote:

    Spooky indeed Tim...My Mum lives in Holland in The Hague between Waasenaar and Scheveningen. She named me after the Dutch town of Lisse but anglicised the spelling. I guess I got off lightly with the surname (nee Bradley).

  90. At 07:33 PM on 23 Aug 2006, cat wrote:

    thanks to eddie i now know what the FTSE index is but still have no idea what it means.

    .......oh well i'll have another think

  91. At 07:58 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Andy wrote:

    I was listening between 5.25 and 5.58 pm and I think I missed whether the FTSE went up or down today - did anyone catch it?!!

  92. At 08:30 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Sue-Sue wrote:

    Eddie what's going on with the "pearls of wisdom" at the top of the page? (Underneat the PM bit).
    I'll swear it was different last week (thought they changed on a daily basis) but Bob Thedino's is appearing EVERY day. (No offence Bob).
    Was eagerley awaiting mine (which no doubt will appear when I'm on holiday next month), but hoped it would be captured for posterity on my return.

  93. At 09:17 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Frances O wrote:

    Andycra[b]GG[\b], I'm sorry! But it would just have been too neat and wrappy-uppy for me to have made that mistake... sigh... I leave that to those wiser than me

    btw, anyone, in the new digital telly and radio age, will the pips/bongs still have to be translated from analogue to digital or can they go straight to digital?

    And what about Long Wave, then? Hmm

  94. At 11:29 PM on 23 Aug 2006, Jezetha wrote:

    I listened as wide-eared as possible, but to me Eddie didn't pronounce it as "Shnuurrlwine" but "Shnoorwang" ('wang' rhyming with 'bang').

    By the way, I've noticed 成人快手 presenters/announcers often think that Dutch is like German and that an initial 'S' has to sound like 'Sh', which simply isn't correct. An S is an S, just as in English. And to be even more pedantic: it's 'Wassenaarseweg' and 'Schoolstraat'.

    Beautiful, isn't it, Dutch?

  95. At 01:12 AM on 24 Aug 2006, wrote:

    Jezetha : "And to be even more pedantic: it's 'Wassenaarseweg' and 'Schoolstraat'."

    You know, I even checked my spelling (especially after correcting Wassenaarsweg).
    Checking again, I think Skoolstraat was in South Africa rather than Holland.

    It was many years ago I was there so I'm not at all upset at forgetting how to spell it.


    Anyway, time I was in bed.

    Tim.C

  96. At 10:38 AM on 24 Aug 2006, David McNickle wrote:

    There is a man with the surname Mahboob who writes letters to the editor. If I had that name, I'd think about changing it. Mahtittie, maybe. I might be wrong, but I think his first name is Ghrop.

  97. At 11:33 AM on 24 Aug 2006, John W wrote:

    For the strapline -

    "Playing FTSE with the index"

  98. At 12:04 PM on 24 Aug 2006, The Man Your Mother Warned You About wrote:

    On the subject of Dutch names, I once had to work (in England) with a guy called Ruud Poppings. Never tired of introducing him to people.

  99. At 12:06 PM on 24 Aug 2006, wrote:

    Hi folks!
    (a link)
    Newsnight covered this as a humorous item last night, even noting in passing that fifteen folk died in the raid, but that it was all because a grocer shared the same name as the leader of Hizbollah.

    No sympathy for the five innocent civilians who spent three weeks in Israeli jail when their captors knew within a day or two that they had nothing to give and were guilty of nothing....
    The Israelis even put a video up: (link)...but Today hasn't even mentioned the item.

    A chance for PM to be the first on radio?

    xx ed

  100. At 01:16 PM on 24 Aug 2006, Jezetha wrote:

    Tim C. - if it's so long ago you were here in Holland, your spelling was remarkably near the mark. (And, yes, 'skool' is Afrikaans). All is forgiven...

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