Monday 4 April 2011
Andrew Lansley has acknowledged there are "genuine concerns" about the NHS shake-up in England - amid accusations the policy is in "chaos". The health secretary said ministers were "listening" and would now "pause" to allow further consultation.
Tonight we'll speak to the government, opposition and health specialists about the future of the NHS reforms and Michael Crick will look at the disagreements within the coalition over the reforms.
Tim Whewell is in Libya for us and has a report on connections between the city of Benghazi and IRA attacks during The Troubles.
And we ask if there is a new tech bubble and even a chance of another dot com crash. As many analysts express concerns that social media companies are overvalued, we'll be joined by internet pioneer Bob Metcalfe - the man who developed Ethernet - the technology which allows computers to be connected in a local network and was influential in the expansion of the Internet; Chris Brauer, director of media and innovation in computing at Goldsmiths; and the founder of one of the most famous dot com busts in history, Ernst Malmsten, formerly of online fashion retailer boo.com.
Join Mishal Husain at 10.30pm on 成人快手 Two.
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From earlier:
Downing Street has said that Health Secretary Andrew Lansley will make a Commons
statement on the government's NHS reforms later today - tonight we will have analysis of and reaction to what is said.
Tim Whewell in Libya has a report on connections between the city of Benghazi and IRA attacks during The Troubles.
Plus, are social media companies overvalued? And are we headed for another dot com crash? David Grossman will report.
More details later.
Comment number 1.
At 4th Apr 2011, flicks3 wrote:"All in all for a MSM channel this was not a bad expose on the Foreclosure Fraud of banks"
Has anyone seen this massive issue which was the cause of the world financial fraud on the 成人快手 I haven't.
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Comment number 2.
At 4th Apr 2011, brossen99 wrote:成人快手 keeping really quiet about this, but then their entire pension pot is riding on the Climate Scam !
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Comment number 3.
At 4th Apr 2011, barriesingleton wrote:DID I HEAR PROXY QUEEN DAVE IS SENDING LANSLEY TO THE TOWER?
It makes sense for Doctor Dave to take over NHS reform, he knows his way round the human body better than most. He has a spare head (for posters) at least one of which has a forked tongue. Last week he tried his hand at a Balls-ectomy and is no stranger to the foot, frequently putting one of his 'in it'. Eton instils backbone we are told, but toffs can be pretty spineless. In consequence, perhaps Demolition Dave's recent nastiness is down to 'no stomach'.
One small mercy: with the NHS stripped of its heart and reduced to a 'mending machine', Doctor Dave can't make it any worse!
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Comment number 4.
At 4th Apr 2011, barriesingleton wrote:INFOTAIN EDUTAIN AND ENTERTAIN - SIMPLES (#2)
In the same way that Britain is an ethical democracy, the 成人快手 is true to its credo.
AV'll fix it.
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Comment number 5.
At 4th Apr 2011, brossen99 wrote:The only thing broke about our NHS is the rip-off PFI contracts which need negotiating to get out ASAP at a fixed price to the taxpayer or we default on the payments. There were some mutterings about renegotiating said contracts the other week but it should have been in the health care bill.
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Comment number 6.
At 4th Apr 2011, barriesingleton wrote:WHAT HAS THE NHS EVER DONE TO ME EXCEPT . . . (#5)
I will not reprise my experience - too upsetting. But setting aside infrastructure madness (signage, 'lighting', lift-'speak', broken door phones, car parking 'technology' etc etc) juxtaposed with expensive migrainous 'art', the presence of cerebral nurses and bozo assistants, along with Manglish-speaking doctors, a lot of contempt and in-yer-face direction (when not just abandoned) totalling three hospitals - WHAT HAS THE NHS DONE TO ME? You don't want to know.
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At 4th Apr 2011, brossen99 wrote:Complain about this comment (Comment number 7)
Comment number 8.
At 4th Apr 2011, Mistress76uk wrote::p So much for the new "Freedom" in Egypt. Now they're going to have modesty police like Saudi Arabia. Told you it was going to be another Iran.......
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At 4th Apr 2011, flicks3 wrote:"Manglish-speaking doctors" Oh boy have I had that problem - totally dangerous and frighteningly no one gives a damn. The concept of two way meaningful dialog with a caring attitude is totally alien. Of-course the 成人快手 managers and highly paid prestigious presenters would never experience what the rest of us have to deal with - we have to pay for them not to be subject to the ineptitude of service being second, third and forth class humans. The feudal kleptocracy, but no darlings; its democracy for the ox-bridge lot.
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Comment number 10.
At 4th Apr 2011, flicks3 wrote:'The choice may come down to admitting to defeat or putting ground troops down'
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Comment number 11.
At 4th Apr 2011, flicks3 wrote:#9 btw I dont blame the Manglish speakers - they just want more money, its those who have allowed them to have such responsibility that I'm pointing the finger at.
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At 4th Apr 2011, barriesingleton wrote:'WE ARE ALL GUILTY' (#11)
Never thought you would flicks. But I would want to believe that some doctors, at least, have the wisdom to know when their English is not up to the job. They can read THAT look on the patients face - or - oh dear, perhaps modern doctors CAN'T!
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Comment number 13.
At 4th Apr 2011, Hawkeye wrote:flicks
I have a corker for you. Listen to audio of interview with Thomas Hoenig (Kansas Fed) last week at LSE. At 55:30 there is a question from the audience about accusations of Fed collusion in Silver Market price manipulation:
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Comment number 14.
At 4th Apr 2011, Hawkeye wrote:#1 Flicks
Thanks for the link. Not sure if you have seen "your strawman" yet?
There's some good advice for anyone in mortgage difficulties:
"accept no contract unless it is shown to be lawful by meeting the four conditions essential to a lawful, binding contract, namely:
1)Full Disclosure (you were not told that you were actually creating the credit with your signature)
2) Equal Consideration (they brought nothing of value to the table and so have nothing to lose)
3) Lawful Terms and Conditions (yours were actually based on fraud), and
4) The signatures of both parties (corporations can't sign because they have no Right or Mind to contract since they are soul-less legal fictions, and no third party can sign a contract on their behalf)"
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Comment number 15.
At 4th Apr 2011, brossen99 wrote:成人快手 spewing yet more eco-fascist propaganda here !
/news/world-asia-pacific-12960655
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Comment number 16.
At 4th Apr 2011, NHJ wrote:I do hope one day Johann Hari will be invited. Fresh face would be.
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Comment number 17.
At 4th Apr 2011, brossen99 wrote:#16 suppose anybody is preferable to Gavin Esler ?
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Comment number 18.
At 4th Apr 2011, JAperson wrote:It鈥檚 getting pretty routine now ....
1. Discreetly brief a few 鈥榠n-pocket鈥 hacks.
2. Wait.
3. Deny any knowledge intimating that 鈥榠t鈥檚 up to the secretary鈥.
4. Farm out a few non- department Junior Ministers to the visual media whom are briefed to hint on a few - deniable -鈥榩ossibilities鈥.
5. Pause until a 鈥榥on-aligned鈥 unsympathetic journo is required to write a piece that needs to fit a specific number of column inches, consequence that the article is padded out with more 鈥榳ords鈥 - hypothesis, hyperbole and unattributed quotes - than he / she has 鈥榯he facts鈥 for.
6. Skip round the meat and prod the vegetables.
7. Laugh behind closed doors, having first checked for a radio mike.
8. Let kerfuffle to die down.
9. Release the White paper, having ensured that the 鈥榮tick in the craw鈥 bits - 鈥榳ell buried鈥 in ambiguity - are toward the end of the 400 page 鈥榖ill鈥
10. Blame previous government.
11. Repeatedly refer to the 鈥楥onalition Stitch-up鈥 Agreement.
12. Rehearse mantra 鈥淚t鈥檚 worse than we thought鈥.
13. Rehearse mantra 鈥榃e鈥檙e all in this together.鈥
14. Hit the mattresses.
When it鈥檚 all over
15. Go on 鈥榟oliday, 鈥榮tate visit鈥, 鈥榟ave a baby鈥.
However, if it all goes belly up .....
a. Emphasise full - previously stated but unreported - intent to 鈥榗onsult鈥, 鈥榬eview鈥, 鈥榗onsider鈥.
b. Mention - often - 鈥榤any鈥, 鈥榣ots of..鈥 鈥榣arge numbers of ..鈥 positive responses to ...
c. Go on 鈥榟oliday, 鈥榮tate visit鈥, 鈥榟ave a baby鈥 making a note in diary date of next re-shuffle.
If all else fails ........
i. Seek close family member with in-grown toenail.
ii. Re-write CV.
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Comment number 19.
At 4th Apr 2011, flicks3 wrote:Thanks Hawkeye
"Well I do think we should obey The Constitution Of The United States"
And then he wanted to move on in a hurry with embarrassed laughs.
Ha !
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Comment number 20.
At 4th Apr 2011, flicks3 wrote:#14 Thanks for that Hawkeye
I think fractional reserve banking needs to be simplified to the max ( fewer words more image )and put to the public in a very stark way to get them to take it in . People just dont want to know when I try to explain. Its as if they just take it for granted that banks can and will do what the hell they like and they cant do anything about it. The compliance is shocking to me sometimes.
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Comment number 21.
At 4th Apr 2011, Sasha Clarkson wrote:@2 etc brossens99
According to Winston Churchill, "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject". You have your view on climate change, and you vilify, in most insulting terms, those who have a different opinion.
I have a very strong scientific background and, having been interested in this topic for 40 years, am inclined to a different opinion. This does not mean I am right of course. Unfortunately in many fields of human debate intelligent people invest so much emotion and "face" in either side of a particular argument that they are incapable of any objectivity whatsoever. Both sides are likely to cherry pick facts to suit their opinions and the truth becomes rather hard to extract from the sea of mud which has been slung.
Supposing I am wrong about climate change and its man made component, what are the consequences? The consequence is that we increase energy efficiency, reduce pollution, conserve scarce resources and oppose the more rapacious forms of energy extraction such as from tar sands and mountaintop removal. All of this against a background of an increase in the human population which may well not be sustainable.
The consequences of you being wrong, and of no action or half baked action, are much more severe.
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Comment number 22.
At 4th Apr 2011, Jericoa wrote:#18
It would be such a fantastically ridiculous state of affiars...if it were not true!
I know not whether to laugh or cry... maybe I should try something different and throw a brick through a well selected window instead.
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Comment number 23.
At 4th Apr 2011, brossen99 wrote:#21 Sasha
If you had taken the time to read Friday's blog it would be clear to you that I am all for reducing our impact on our environment ( stop consumer credit on anything incapable of lasting at least 30 years ) and the only reason I am so apparently passionate about my position is that CO2 theory is being used as an excuse to introduce Nazi policy. I'm actually just watching the rise of Hitler again on Yesterday and its clear that he would never have got off the ground politically without the support of the Wandervogel ( the greens ).
Once upon a time ( 1995 ) I was almost on the point of joining the Green Party, and as a competent practical engineer contacted all the alleged green groups on the fact that their traffic calming doubled pollution and it was therefore not a true environmentally friendly policy. I also suggested easy ways to change the tax on goods vehicles to encourage long distance rail ( charge road tax by mileage on a hub odometer like in NZ ) and other practical cost effective suggestions to reduce transport emissions. No reply from any of my correspondence so I actually rung Friends of the Earth head office and allegedly talked to the then top man, only to be slagged off with loads of abuse for daring to question what has now become their quasi-religion.
I must admit that I don't trust anybody in a suit these days, and I later found that an excellent 1976 OU prog on aerodynamics ( which confirmed my practical experience ) I saw in the 1980s had its micro-film transcript botched to make it unreadable. Perhaps that's because it contradicted all the car aerodynamics propaganda being put out in the 1990s and continued to this day. It looks like these people who claim to be scientists are into the equivalent of burning books just like the Nazi's and therefore I do not trust any alleged science or scientists these days.
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Comment number 24.
At 4th Apr 2011, barriesingleton wrote:BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT (#21)
I do not question your credentials Sasha, but I am forced to challenge your stance.
To hypothesise the chaotic nature of climate seems reasonable? That strongly suggests that WE CANNOT KNOW which input has what effect - and for how long.
SO: even if 'our' CO2 has shifted the equilibrium, MORE MIGHT BE JUST AS EFFICACIOUS AS LESS.
When Laithwaite was faced with INSTABILITY INCREASING WITH POWER INPUT, he wound UP the power and got stability - the rest is 'Mag Lev'.
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Comment number 25.
At 4th Apr 2011, brossen99 wrote:Link to the full aerodynamics scam text
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Comment number 26.
At 4th Apr 2011, michaeluphill wrote:Will that silly woman please give the guests an opportunity to answer the questions. WE want to hear the answers even if she doesn't!
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Comment number 27.
At 4th Apr 2011, barriesingleton wrote:DISMANTLE WESTMINSTER - URGENT
If we don't, Emily Thornberry is going right to the top. You remember Thatcher? You ain't seen nothing yet.
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Comment number 28.
At 4th Apr 2011, Sparklet wrote:Re. #21. At 21:33pm on 4th Apr 2011, Sasha Clarkson
One should always FOLLOW THE MONEY when looking at issues such as this. It can be very revealing. Whoever pays the piper calls the tune as they say and this is certainly true of the Climate 'Science' we see today.
You'll see there's massive funding available for those scientists who are 'on message'. But not just the scientists, the pseudo charities too, after all they give the veneer that the policies implemented on the back of the pseudo science are by 'popular demand'.
Read what a scientist with a great deal of experience particularly in Climatology and who has experienced first hand the machinations of those at the centre of the CAGW agenda has to say.
And the problem is the current 'warming' is in no way indistinguishable from what has happened in the past, even Prof. Jones had to admit that, and that's despite a massive increase in our CO2 emissions thanks to major development in China and India.
Not surprising that a 2008 report found that increased knowledge of global warming led to less concern about it.
Western economies are already struggling but a huge increase in energy bills could be catastrophic (forcing yet more of our industries to head for the relatively dirty but cheaper power in the east). Higher energy bills have already drastically increased fuel poverty. And if you really think investment in 'renewables' will increase energy efficiency then look up the Warwick Wind Trials Project. Their report of micro turbines found that on average they yielded less than one percent of capacity!!! So much for 'efficiency'. And the West's pursuit of wind turbines has hardly been very green for China!!
Let's hope our idiot politicians don't start looking at geo-engineering. I think you need to read about the 'unintended consequences' of their bungling 'green' policies so far!!
So these are the realities and all because of the speculative projections from hideously over-simplified computer models!!
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Comment number 29.
At 4th Apr 2011, barriesingleton wrote:IS IT ME?
I am under the impression that while Gaddafi was sending Semtex to Ireland, a large American group was sending money. In the Age of Fairness, why is Gaddafi getting all the flak? What did they buy and from whom?
In passing: who was that bloke on the studio wall, who looked like Dave, only a lot more appealing, facially?
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Comment number 30.
At 4th Apr 2011, brossen99 wrote:Just a few observations on the theoretical value of facebook, which can become addictive for some people although I very much doubt that any of the current users I know would actually pay for it. I've lost track of exactly how long I have been using it but it is true to say that it was far better in its original 2008 format.
Things were once simple, you had a home page and a news feed function, you could start a group if you had any particular axe to grind on any topic. The chat function was also useful for swapping information with friends. The chat function is the only thing that's good about facebook these days, so much so that it stuffed MSN live messenger which was actually better for chat, the latest MSN chat is just an imitation of the facebook format.
The main hurdle now is that its no longer easy to set up a workable group, and they have changed the page format to discourage people having a discussion function. Then there are the new " like " pages which usually only post group views on the main page, others hidden in the background. There was once a way around the attempted censor but now its impossible to post live links in comments. In fact facebook is becoming evermore useless as a medium to spread ideas compared to what it was originally. Even though I have loads more friends now many appear less online now than they did originally.
In fact the novelty is wearing off for many people, they only adverts they try to target at me are dating sites, for which I have no real interest. You can actually remove the adds and they ask you why in a multi choice question. I don't do applications anymore either and have them blocked from others posting on my page. Having said that I have met some interesting people and it saves me from doing Google searches for many of the links I post on the NN blog.
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Comment number 31.
At 5th Apr 2011, barriesingleton wrote:WE ONLY MANUFACTURE DEFENCE WEAPONS
Why, then, can we not supply the Good Guys?
Alternatively: we could supply projectiles, and someone else could supply guns, launchers etc. Wasn't that sort of reasoning that took us into a 'legal' war in Iraq?
And that one was a Famous Victory.
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Comment number 32.
At 5th Apr 2011, stevie wrote:Lansley has the look of a man who when invited to a party disgraced himself to the hostess and 're-arranged ' the flower bed and was never invited back... all of a sudden 'friends' are not available....
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Comment number 33.
At 5th Apr 2011, Mindys_Housemate wrote:there's stuff to answer from yesterday, but here's a comment on tonights News@10:
my recommendations of NHS Reforms; change plans to reduce the private 'consultancies', move more Regional Care Trusts into cooperative structures involving public accountability, invest in new NHS teaching colleges, and new pharmaceutical research in-house. In effect, make as many of the NHS's costs internal as possible. At least the NHS doesn't demand profits for its private 'owners'.
i'm extremely glad this Govt has paused, and asked for further reflection and advice from the Public, i think this is a sign of maturity, and i hope they are sincere in this.
more from NN on the NHS discussion..:
MY GOD - HAS NO ONE LISTENED TO THAT NHS CHIEF EXEC FOR YEARS!?!?! He was sooo glad to be heard properly!!! :/
HOWEVER, where i disagreed with him is that the privately owned companies demand profit, which MUST raise prices - *that* reduces the amount the Govt spends on actual Health Care, because there is now also a profit margin taken out.. Better to keep services and training 'in-house'. The extremely high level of teaching in our NHS colleges could *earn* money teaching foreign students, just as other sectors of the economy do. We would also be educating more of our own doctors and nurses, some of whom no doubt would be attracted to go overseas and work abroad for a while. We may moan about the NHS, but compared to 3rd World countries without socialised medical care, we are still living in a relative paradise. Personally, i think we should appreciate that more, and worry about small deficiencies less. Small deficiencies we can fix in future years, large scale bankruptcy-privatisations (called "failed NHS hospitals") we cannot. Imho.
---!!WHY!!! would the ""private sector"" invest if they don't expect MORE money from the investment than they put in?? Re: previous water-privatisation link!
i liked the Labour shadow health secretary.. then she became very 'hypnotical'. Didn't know by the end. Noting comment above:#27 by barry, i am tending towards scepticism of honesty of intent from her. Still open-minded though, haven't read any of her actual words. Sorry if i seem a bit dry, really can't be concerned about Labour atm.
COMPETITION BETWEEN PUBLIC OWNED PROVIDERS ALSO OFFERS THE BENEFIT OF COMPETITION!!! - sorry for shouting, this just seemed obvious when we keep getting told "competition is good".
too much stuff posted in the last 24hrs to comment on it all. :/
more to come for tonight's show though. If i can stay awake.
ps, was surprised to have "mindy's" up and running again, it appeared banned by "technical problems" for a while, so i made "kali". still seem to sometimes get that "technical difficulty", for both names.
...just had it again, so this is :testing:
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Comment number 34.
At 5th Apr 2011, flicks3 wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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Comment number 35.
At 5th Apr 2011, Jericoa wrote:#30
This is a pretty good summary as to not so much 'what' it is worth but WHY it is being pumped up with financial steroids and by whom.
It is the modern equivalent of a brutal murder in broad daylight.
The more i understand of these things the less I want anything to do with society as is.
Anybody out there got a spare few million quid to set up a high technology sustainable (throughput economic model) parallel society in minuature, it would be relatively easy to do now with a mere fraction of the value of facebook to play with and I think, once set up, the idea would take off very quickly as people realised the futility and completely unecesarry acceptance of debt slavery.
They may not have physical whips and physical slave ships anymore, that is only because times have moved on, the suffering the slave masters cause is the same as before just stretched over longer as people live longer and more in the domain of mental and spiritual repression rather than physical.
No money to be made though, just balanced productive lives as happy as is it is probably able to be...
Any interest Goldmans?
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Comment number 36.
At 5th Apr 2011, ecolizzy wrote:Nice to see my MP is "concerned" about this, but he won't "do" anything about it!
After all he was involved in the Olympic building, hhhhmmm what was it 9,000 more immigrants to carry out the work, don't think the british got a look in.
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Comment number 37.
At 5th Apr 2011, ecolizzy wrote:Does anybody know when we'll get a ball park figure for the population of the UK? How long will it be before the census figures are out? Can't find any info me sen!
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Comment number 38.
At 5th Apr 2011, barriesingleton wrote:DECLINE IS NEVER EASY TO SEE FROM INSIDE - WHEN YOU DON'T WANT TO (#35)
Those who forget the past etc.
Modern living depends on hygiene, immunisation and anti-pathogens, in our PHYSICAL environment. We NO LONGER have any equivalent inputs into our psychological functioning.
FOR MINDS: immunisation is equivalent to taboos; hygiene is equivalent to positive culture; anti-pathogens equivalent to simple therapies/strategies.
Schooling for Mammon (institutionalisation) MUST bring decline. Yet, to our society, school as A GIVEN GOOD is as real as AGW and imaginary money.
Looks as if the Emperor is never going to cover up - stupidity is now edgy!
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Comment number 39.
At 5th Apr 2011, Sparklet wrote:Re: #36. At 09:32am on 5th Apr 2011, ecolizzy
Thanks for the link, interesting article.
Remember Dame Shirley Porter, she was fined millions for gerrymandering in the London area. How many more millions should Labour be fined for the gerrymandering they did on a much larger scale. It also shows the rank hypocrisy of Labour who were very vociferous against Porter.
Why haven't the Labour party been put on trial for this?
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Comment number 40.
At 5th Apr 2011, barriesingleton wrote:OH TO BE IN ENGLAND (#36 & 37)
I suspect the English Olympic cohort were H&S translators Lizzy!
The census can't assess the Black Economy workers. That was why I suggested we bring the troops back, and do a N to S 'sweep' like grouse shooting (only indentifying not shooting).
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Comment number 41.
At 5th Apr 2011, barriesingleton wrote:CONTROLLING POLITICAL PARTIES - THE WESTMINSTER MALAISE (#39)
In my quest to nail the Conservative liar flyer
I am discovering just how deviously the political Matrix of Democratic Britain is woven. There is no 'OFPOL' to whom one can report a rogue party. Thus, although lying for votes is illegal under 'The Representation of The People Act', one has to complain to the POLICE. One thing we can be sure of, PARTIES KNOW NO SHAME. No one takes responsibility. Very British, and exportable by the bomb.
SPOILPARTYGAMES
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Comment number 42.
At 5th Apr 2011, Jericoa wrote:#38
Nice to know others understand as well, your 'medicine for the mind' analogy is extremely good and spot on.
Am I the only one who is feeling increasingly desperate in amidst all that is going on in the world, desperate to avoid it that is, not just for me and my family but as many as possible, i have young kids, 8 and 11 years old. Desperate to avoid what is coming over the hill and is almost in view now, you can certainly hear the drums beating already and the heart begins to race in anticipation of the struggle to come of which the drum beat is the inevitable portent.
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Comment number 43.
At 5th Apr 2011, barriesingleton wrote:STUMPED OF NEWBURY (#42)
My two are male and late 30s.
As Tolkien wrote: "Boom doom, went the drum in the deep".
At least you are thinking ahead Jericoa. Very best wishes to you and yours.
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Comment number 44.
At 5th Apr 2011, barriesingleton wrote:"15 HOURS FREE PRE-SCHOOL SUPPORT" (Nick Clegg) HURRAH!
Oh good grief! SHE USED TO BE CALLED 'MOTHER' Mr Clegg, and her 'support' (selfless love and dedication) was 24 HOUR 365 DAYS PER YEAR.
You and your Westminster ilk have devalued mothering to zero, and commercialised nurture. WHAT A TRIUMPH FOR WELLBEING.
Preparation for schooling preparatory to programming for MAMMON is destroying, individual, country and world, while Nick fiddles.
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Comment number 45.
At 5th Apr 2011, ecolizzy wrote:#44 Ah, Barrie I've just been listening to this twit as well, they'll only be happy when "they" can control every avenue, even breathing.
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Comment number 46.
At 5th Apr 2011, ecolizzy wrote:"The only way is up?"
Or are we permanently down?
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Comment number 47.
At 5th Apr 2011, barriesingleton wrote:CHAOS THEORY (#46)
I am reliably informed that all fund managers now have a different idea as to which way is up (going forward?).
Global levers are pulled by small men. and each generation is comprised of smaller units than the preceding one.
Destiny Dave is in Pakistan. That'll be why Non-entity Nick is sounding so masterful.
Anyone seen Tony - or James Gordon?
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Comment number 48.
At 5th Apr 2011, Mindys_Housemate wrote:cont: news@10: who was that "Libyan second in command of the Rebels" - he is certainly a former minister, remember that when he says"Ghaddafi must go" - he is someone who was a LONG time as an associate of Ghaddafi, and therefore with as bloody hands. Why therefore does he imagine he should be supported in power by the West? And why should the West support an Iraqi style civil war to put people like him as the new dictators?
good news on Stonehenge.
re report on Libyan support for terrorism: SO THE AMERICANS BOUGHT ARMS FROM LIBYA/GHADDAFI, AND GAVE THEM TO THE pIRA?
but we already have evidence Semtex came from Libya, why have to grab the intelligence documents? And certainly not worth an invasion to get them! Still, the guy who had tracked the movement of semtex to NI was very impressive. :)
i suspect we would have to wait a long time to get an apology from the Americans for this, giving the pIRA the money to buy explosives, and then as we heard, transporting the explosives on oil tankers into the UK. Seems terrorism against the UK population is not limited to just "mad dictators".
tech-bubble - created, as explained on the show, by the false credit created by the banks - therefore promissory notes that must eventually be repaid, and therefore later "market' collapse.". This tech-bubble, as explained, is no different. In short, it is the same effect pushing up food/oil prices (and luxury goods such as yachts) - the Western Financial Elites have far too much money from QE and other measures to pump 拢Bns ito the financial system. They have nowhere to invest it all, poor things. So it gets put into bubbles (housing, tech-stocks) etc, that can be manipulated and the big players get out before it collapses - in fact, they *cause* the collapse. Only fools (and hopefully NOT pension funds) would be investing in these companies stock-price. Used to be stock-markets rated companies based upon actual valuation of the companies, that was back before financial deregulation however. Would be nice to get back to that, along with sanity throughout our financial sector.
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At 5th Apr 2011, Mindys_Housemate wrote:some local news from Brighton: the Corporate chain Sainsbury's is opening YET ANOTHER supermarket on St James St, but there is local opposition to this, even from councillors and the areas MP. It goes to Hove Court again on Thurs.
the new buildings on the old Territorial Barracks site in northern Brighton - this may be a bit Prince Charles-ish, but well - they're a bit ugly, aren't they? :/
#42: Jericoa, the drum-beats are of social-reform, and the ending of millennia of exploitation, often along genetic lineages. The alternative will be the edl-style nazis, who are clearly getting much support from within the UK establishment at the highest levels. I don't recall EVER hearing how ethnic-cleansing and racialist policies have increased the living-standards of any society or culture that has tried them. The choice is between regaining our Humanity - or losing it altogether. The people who are braving the dictators of the Middle East do not hate *us* - and in Libya local people even risked their lives to defend Western citizens there at the time of the uprising. Allowing fear of the future to be twisted into "hating the other" is a cowards way out - and if there is something we know, it is that Brits are NOT cowards. Attacking weak minorities, or women, or the unemployed - this will not solve the problems we face, it will just make them worse. The only ones who win from such reactions are the very ones who have caused the mess we are in!!
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At 5th Apr 2011, Mindys_Housemate wrote:/news/world-africa-12973534
this has happened within the British Empire as well, why do smug satisfied politicians and 'owners' despise the men who are hardy and brave enough to work underground for the benefit of us all? Mines should be owned by the people who work in them, the profits from their labour should not be stolen by others who tick boxes, or plot in 'Gentlemen's Establishments'.
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At 5th Apr 2011, wappaho wrote:#35 when I got to the words 'special purpose vehicle' an image flashed to mind of the high tech equipement used in mining these days, from which experience I surmise that the finance sector these days is less about lending money and more about actively seeking out where money might be got hold of.
Or maybe I just had mining in mind because I have recently discovered an hypotheosis that R1b (Y chromosome) migrated from the Pontic-Caspian steppe because it had run out of tin and copper in prehistoric times. Ireland is now 80% R1b so it is understood that the R1b migration virtually wiped out whatever existed prior. And, the hypotheosis continues - the myth of the leprachaun (sp?) may date back to this prehistoric time because a leprachaun is little person who hides and knows where to find precious metals!
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At 5th Apr 2011, Mindys_Housemate wrote:wap: or the chromosone was successful in reproduction? Doesn't mean the older inhabitants were "wiped out", in fact genetic studies show that populations are remarkably static through millennia! The HIStory myths of invaders slaughtering all before them are precisely that in most cases - myths.
leprechauns rule! ;)
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At 5th Apr 2011, wappaho wrote:53 until recently but mtDNA and Y data has provided renewed evidence for migration - economic migrants /prospectors, rather than blood-lust invaders. People followed the game and then later followed the minerals - la plus ca change, n'est-ce pas?
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