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What did Gordon say to David?

  • David Grossman
  • 6 Nov 07, 02:00 PM

browncameron_203.jpgThe Queen's speech has been delivered - so far so much as expected. All eyes on the Commons for the clash between Brown, Cameron, Cable et al this afternoon. One thing that I hadn't expected was the way that Gordon Brown and David Cameron walked from the Commons to the Lords. Tradition dictates that the two main party leaders saunter in side by side and chat amicably. Some wondered whether the current PM would be able to stomach a chat with a man he doesn't really think all that much of.

What actually happened was that Mr Brown spoke almost non-stop at the Conservative leader. Mr Cameron tried in vain to launch a couple of words back but in the end gave up. I'm tapping my contacts this afternoon to try to find out just what the subject of this Brown lecture was - in the meantime are there any lip-readers out there? Failing that make something up. We could do with a laugh.

UPDATE, TUES 2.30pm - Sources tell me the subject of their discussion was foreign affairs – still trying to get further details...

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  • 1.
  • At 02:18 PM on 06 Nov 2007,
  • Sean Girling wrote:

Was he telling him how much daylight he can see through his ears?

  • 2.
  • At 02:44 PM on 06 Nov 2007,
  • Harriet Hamster Hampstead wrote:

Oh Yes Dave, that was the real Queen's speech - but RDF are "tweaking it a bit for me" at the end of the day you couldn't buy that sort of publicity...

  • 3.
  • At 03:18 PM on 06 Nov 2007,
  • docnic wrote:

In his position I think I would have taken the opportunity to suggest a compromise on the financing of elections as this must be sorted out before the next election. On the other hand I would probably asked how his blog is going

  • 4.
  • At 03:24 PM on 06 Nov 2007,
  • Barry8 wrote:

Immigration has not been so acceptable to the electorate of this country because it has only too plainly been very, very badly regulated. Housing and social services have been seriously damaged by this lack of regulation. The big numbers of immigrants have unquesionably been due to the too easily obtained benefits granted in
low consideration of our own UK
residents. Businesses have welcomed cheap labour and grown excessively fat on the results. We have more billionaires than ever during this last 10 years. Poverty is rife in spite of political boasts to the contrary.

  • 5.
  • At 03:36 PM on 06 Nov 2007,
  • Mark wrote:

"I told you Blair wouldn't stay out his term, now you lost the bet, pay up!"

  • 6.
  • At 04:12 PM on 06 Nov 2007,
  • John Decamps wrote:

Why not take a leaf out of the Austrailian book.
Italy are trying a new tatic this last weekend.
The UK has to do something drasticly different from the pussyfooting ideas they persure since The FAMOUSE Enoch Powell's speech many years ago, It still rings in my ears so droning even today,an everlasting impressionary speech. Which is now undoubtably here and on practicly every ones doorstep to remind ALL the older members of Parliment of their actions over the years since this speech.

In the not to distant future if a stop has not been put in place to curb the groth in ALL the NEW religions that have been brought upon the British puplic they too will soon have to conform to the indinegouse ways of life,already we see that NO ways of compulsory learning of the English language has been implemented.
Take the enormouse cost to authoritys of dual signage which will soon be done in road signage ,then having so much to read whilst travelling at 70mph.more accidents
How long will it be before all citizens are FORCED to visit the mosque and to demonstrate in vast numbers.
You can go on and on.
It is like the blind leading the blind. Politicians not only speak with forked tonges but led to the slaughter like sheep, not saying what their beliefs are in fear of losing their cushy jobs. never for the good of the country.
From a guy that left the sinking SHIP.!!! here in Canada,yes we have the similar silly thinking here too.But not yet as bad as the UK.

  • 7.
  • At 04:19 PM on 06 Nov 2007,
  • Silkstone wrote:

Re - Some wondered whether the current PM would be able to stomach a chat with a man he doesn't really think all that much of.

By the sound of things it was more of a one-sided rant than a chat

Although superfluous, is the use of the adjective 'current' intended to raise the Electorate's hopes?

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  • 8.
  • At 05:00 PM on 06 Nov 2007,
  • mark shepherd wrote:

Tweedle Dumb said to Tweedle Dee, "Would you like a look?"
Tweedle Dee said to Tweedle Dumb, "What? Your glass eye?"
"No" said Dumb reaching for more pie;
Tony's sent me a copy of Cherie's book!

My take on Brown is that he would be saying "I'm Prime Minister - you're not!" but not in those words. This is a man who has eschewed his "Christian" name (James) just has he denies his Christianity by his acts and utterances, to such a degree, that every Cockerel in Scotland is hoarse. Further, he "eschews" his fingernails, and neither marriage, nor fatherhood nor wresting the top job from Tony, has brought any cessation. This is not a man I would choose to give a big red button. I think what James Gordon is saying, with every fibre of his being is: "I am a desperately inadequate man, split between Christian rules and childlike needs, searching for glory I can never find." (Just like Tony before him.)
WE need to ask: "Why does our system of government elevate this type of person to leadership?"

  • 10.
  • At 05:51 PM on 07 Nov 2007,
  • missmibs wrote:

queens speech etc. mr cameron having to listen to mr brown. i would imagine mr cameron was assuming that mr brown's hypocrasy would be apparent. mr brown is a very bad actor and he should not pretend to be something else at state occasions, or in the commons.

gordon should relax in public, as we all now know he is a control freak in private.

we know he means well, and genuinely cares about britain. but, it must be difficult for him to let go of departments he ran before. i would say that mr darling is his worst choice as chancellor. mr darling is a back room guy. mr brown is still doing mr darlings job, but not well enough??

  • 11.
  • At 08:41 PM on 07 Nov 2007,
  • Silkstone wrote:

Re#10
We know he means well and 'genuinely cares about Britain'.

If your definition of 'caring' covers.... flatly, blatantly and arrogantly denying eighty-percent of a population of sixty million their DEMAND, indeed their RIGHT, to decide through a referendum whether he should be allowed to cede [forever] sovereign power to Brussels in a further sixty areas contained in the Lisbon (constitutional) Treaty, then you would be well advised to restrict your opinions to the use of the perpendicular pronoun - not 'We'.

  • 12.
  • At 09:03 PM on 22 Nov 2007,
  • neil robertson wrote:

HMRC figures on child poverty are dynamite - I'll courier them out
using TNT ....

Cameron: Careful, Gordon, careful!

  • 13.
  • At 05:36 PM on 23 Nov 2007,
  • neil robertson wrote:

"Those who walk together warn each other" [Ugandan proverb quoted by
Her Majesty The Queen in a speech
she wrote herself for the opening
of the 2007 Commonwealth Heads of Government Conference in Kampala,
Uganda on 23 November 2007]

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